I can imagine DNC to have both, but I also imagine that Yoshi P wants scouting gear shared with another job. And if aiming gear is shared, it will share with 3 jobs and scouting will remain as 1.
I'd love to hear if anyone caught anything about the specific type of gear they will wear during the Fan Festival, or other interview sources.
Thanks for the help!
Is DNC Aiming Gear or Scouting Gear?
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03-24-2019, 01:54 PMVeritas-AncoraIs DNC Aiming Gear or Scouting Gear?
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03-24-2019, 01:58 PMDuskane
my guess scouting for aesthetic purposes
plus a job thats throwing chakrams sharing gear with one that throws shurikens pretty fitting -
03-24-2019, 02:00 PMHuntrss
Bard and Machinist share Gear I think Dancer will be within that gear type.
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03-24-2019, 02:02 PMKurando
They said it would be DEX, although someone did ask if NIN would be moved to something else seeing as it doesn't quiet fit with ranged DPS, but apparently it would take a lot of work... as usual.
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03-24-2019, 02:04 PMKageTokage
Scouting's aesthetic is a lot more fitting for DNC as its designs tend to emphasize mobility by being form-fitting and/or skimpier.
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03-24-2019, 02:24 PMlulunami
My bet is Dancer will have the same gear as BRD and MCH since they are all ranged Physical DPS. RDM, BRD, SMN (and BLU) all share ranged Magical gear.
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03-24-2019, 05:23 PMwereotter
Scouting would be good.... but considering how wrong I was thinking RDM would use scouting gear two years ago.... I'm gonna say that likely won't be the case, and they'll use Aiming.
I do hope they consolidate DPS gear, though. Having maiming on a separate set no longer makes sense. It used to have lower magic defense, but that's no longer the case, and the higher physical defense doesn't really mean anything to a DPS job. So.... my ideal solution, MNK, DRG, SAM share gear, DNC and NIN share gear, BRD and MCH share gear. -
03-24-2019, 09:04 PMMStowastiqVahlshdeh
They referred to DNC as a "Ranged Dps" during the Fanfest reveal so I would think "Aiming" gear shared with ARC/BRD/MCH.
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03-24-2019, 09:47 PMIscah
Asking the important questions!
I feel like Scouting gear has more options that suit Dancer, but there's also another important reason that I think it's more likely to be used than Aiming gear: damage type.
Bard and Machinist both use piercing damage, while Dancer (with chakrams, shuriken and throwing knives mentioned as possible weapons) is most likely slashing damage like Ninja. -
03-24-2019, 10:00 PMDaralii
Scouting would be the smarter choice from a design perspective if only to balance out gearing: 4/3/3/2/2/3 would feel a lot better in terms of drops, mainly in 24-mans, than 4/3/3/3/1/3.
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03-24-2019, 10:08 PMIscahHmm, and what about Maiming gear? Still exclusive to dragoons, isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daralii
Unless they're going to give that to Gunbreaker instead of normal tank gear, I suppose - if they can make that work. -
03-25-2019, 12:32 AMwereotterMaiming gear has no reason to be separate from striking gear anymore. It originally had different defensive stats from striking giving dragoons higher physical defense and lower magical, but this was determined not to be good for the raiding scene wherein a dragoon would die to a party-wide mechanic that everyone else would live through just because the damage was magical. So now maiming gear maintains higher physical defense but the same magical. Making it so the sets are no longer separate would be a smart move.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iscah
Additionally Scouting and Aiming sets used to have different defensive stats, but that is no longer the case too. So if they're looking to consolidate, they can eliminate one and have all DEX jobs use the same armor sets. -
03-25-2019, 01:11 AMzferolie
Honestly I can see it going either way. Ninja gear is well just for ninja's now and having another class use it can work. Plus Throwing weapons could be either pierce or slashing, depending on the weapon being used(chakrams are obviously slashing but THrowing knives and daggers and Shurican could be piercing. Heck if they get throwing fans thats slashing too)
But I am being biased and want them to be normal Ranged DPS gear so I can use Amon's hat on my for now planned glam
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03-25-2019, 04:23 AMVeritas-Ancora
Hi, OP again.
It looks like a Japanese site asked a very similar question. Google Translate only works so well, so I'm curious if anyone can give a better translation.
https://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201903240006/
Google Translate:
-Then, 4 jobs including ninjas become DEX. For example, do you consider moving ninjas to another category?
Mr. Yoshida: Please wait for the announcement in the middle of May. It is difficult to understand that the battle system is only one system change. If you are operating for six years after birth, various systems will be linked, and if you change some of them, it will affect other places. It is because there is a possibility of misunderstanding when speaking a part by pinpoint now.
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吉田氏：レンジDPSなのでDEXになるんだろうなぁと思っています。
――そうすると忍者も含めて4ジョブがDEXになりますが、例えば忍者を別なカテゴリに移すということは考えていますか。
吉田氏：これ以上は5月中旬の発表をお待ち下さい。バトルシステムは、1つのシステム変更だけですと理解が難しいと思います。新生してから丸6年運営していると、色々なシステムが連鎖しているので一部を変えると、別な場所に影響がでてしまいます。今はピンポイントで一部をお話すると、誤解を生む可能性があるからです。 -
03-25-2019, 04:59 AMzferolieQuote:
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it almost sounds like they are going to fully change how armor works? -
03-25-2019, 05:07 AMDyvidBasically this is my thinking on the whole announcement of Fan Fest. We won't know why SE did what they did until we see the entire picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora
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03-25-2019, 06:59 AMlulunami
It is totally plausible they could consolidate DPS jobs into DEX armor, STR armor, and INT armor. I suppose we will have to wait for further announcements.
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03-25-2019, 08:28 AMDaraliiIt'd also hopefully have the side effect of glamour restrictions being loosened.Quote:
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03-28-2019, 08:33 PMJunseiKeiThis is in reference to during the Live Letter at Japan's FanFest, he stated you cannot change one aspect of the game without it affecting another aspect. Them changing the battle system may effect armor, so they might not be able to answer due to work being currently done and issues that have still yet to come up and be worked on.Quote:
Originally Posted by zferolie
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03-29-2019, 03:49 AMSpeckledBurdI'd be down for that. Scouting and Maiming being their own gear sets has basically just meant that there's a fail state in the Loot pool no matter what you're running. If they cut them out then you're less likely to get a gear drop that no one can use.Quote:
Originally Posted by lulunami
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03-30-2019, 01:45 AMJonnycbad
Yeah but DRG and MNK/SAM should have different gear anesthetics. DRG wears medium chain/scale/half PLATE. MNK/SAM should wear gi, harness, haori, cyclas
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03-30-2019, 02:10 AMRukiaFaeTrue but that doesn't apply to Red mage. They should have agile clothes not caster robes. Maybe the could add a system that allows gear to have the same stats but look differently depending on the job and not role. That way there are less drop options but it can still look appropriate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonnycbad
For example MNK/SAM/DRG use the same gear drops but it looks like plate armour on the DRG and cloth on the MNK/DRG.