All of the new ideas for housing are great, and I'm glad Ishgardian housing will be coming, but we really need new housing wards available for the existing areas. Even on the lower population servers most everything is full except for smalls, and even then except for the tiny servers most or all of those are taken. With server transfers coming up it would be very welcome.
We really need new Wards in the existing housing areas.
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03-01-2019, 03:36 AMFlarestarWe really need new Wards in the existing housing areas.
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03-01-2019, 04:03 AMNumenor1379
No, we need the auto-demolition timer turned back on. It has been suspended in NA since Oct.
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03-01-2019, 05:18 AMDorkarth
Auto-demolition should still be there. A friend of mine received a mail from SE last week regarding his inactivity online, or doing anything regarding his plot. They would demolish his house if he does not follow the steps (given in the mail). But still I think they should indeed increase the houses available. who knows maybe SE will do that again like a few patches ago..
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03-01-2019, 06:31 AMDustytomeEU servers were not paused. JP & NA were for some time due to natural disasters and just recently JP's timers were reactivated. At the moment NA servers are still paused. You can view a list of the servers here, any servers listed under Aether or Primal currently do not have active auto-demolition timers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorkarth
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03-01-2019, 06:35 AMInkstainedGwynAuto demo has been off since October, 2018, on NA servers. As noted there (and as has happened with previous suspensions) they will notify us before they turn it back on. JP's auto demo was reinstated back in January, I believe. EU was not paused.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorkarth
They've already stated that they don't plan on adding more wards in the forseeable future (other than, of course, on the new servers.) Regardless, new wards aren't the answer to the housing shortage, they'll help ~2k players per server immediately and then once they're full on the handful of servers that fill up, there will just be another request for more. Meanwhile, when Auto Demo is actually a thing, most low-mid pop servers have quite a few empty houses in all zones (I was even finding Larges on our server a few times a week before the halt of auto demo). It may not be the exact house someone wants, but that's what you get for having non-instanced wards with a few "prime" locations - we can't have 15,000 wards because all 15,000 people on a server all want Shirogane 8 or Goblet 19 or Lavender Beds 11, with the rest of each ward empty.
If you want to solve the problem, you need instanced housing or all-sizes of apartments. We'll see if that ever happens, though. -
03-01-2019, 11:48 AMEdaxWell this is news to me! Can you provide a link where this has been confirmed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flarestar
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03-01-2019, 12:01 PMNumenor1379It has been implied via the rebuilding of Ishgard. There are no quotes stating it will happen implicitly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edax
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03-01-2019, 05:08 PMLosara
If we use the Doma reconstruction as a comparison it might take 2 patches e.g. 5.2 - 5.4 roughly to complete the Ishgard rebuild. Though realistically Ishgard is a fair bit larger than Doma and would take longer to rebuild.
Once auto-demolish hits the housing situation should stabilize or at least it did the previous time when auto-demolish was turned off and then back on again. -
03-01-2019, 11:30 PMVahlnirIf there was more wards available (or instanced housing) we wouldn't need the auto demolition system at all!Quote:
Originally Posted by Numenor1379
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03-02-2019, 04:50 AMJojoyaAuto-demo will always be a necessity with a ward system. Wards are constantly running so they're a big consumer of server resources. SE needs to make sure that they're actively being used and that means removing houses from inactive players and getting them in the hands of active players to reduce the amount of server resources required.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vahlnir
It's part of why so many players are pushing SE to start using instanced housing instead. Since instanced housing is load on entry instead of constantly running, the demand on server resources is far less.
People need to stop pushing for more wards and start pushing for more instanced housing options that every players can use if they want, and can come back to a year later if they take a break from the game. -
03-04-2019, 09:34 PMTakumiHarada
I just don't understand. There are literally, LITERALLY, hundreds of empty plots (including the good plots like plots 19-21 in Mist and plot 29 in LB) in less populated servers.
If you really want housing that much why don't you just move?
They have been asking players to move to less congested servers and they even have free transfers.
I actually moved to another server after seeing how empty the wards are through my friend and it was just a 5 to 10-min procedure on MogStation. -
03-04-2019, 10:00 PMRicaRuin
Most cases are not actually about more plots, since a lot of S plots are available. Most cases are most likely the subtext of 'but I want a mansion!'.
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03-04-2019, 10:25 PMMavriasBecause people have friends, communities, reputations, FCs, etc that they dont want to leave to maybe have a chance to get a house.Quote:
Originally Posted by TakumiHarada
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03-05-2019, 02:45 PMLayheFree transfers are only if you're moving from a congested server to a preferred server. Most aren't considered congested anymore. Actually, the only congested server now is Balmung.Quote:
Originally Posted by TakumiHarada
Also, we currently have a huge influx of new players due to WoW dying, so they're all coming in on whatever server they can, or ones their friends already play on. People shouldn't be forced to move to a different server just to have a chance to get housing. It'd be ridiculous to expect people to pay for a world transfer just to get housing...
We need extra wards at least on the more populated servers. I'm on Midgardsormr and there are NEVER houses for sale. You have to be very lucky to find one and actually get it. -
03-05-2019, 03:32 PMInkstainedGwynThey've already said that they can't add wards to one server without adding them to all servers, and they've made it more than clear that they don't want to add wards when a good number of servers have empty houses even when auto demo is paused.Quote:
Originally Posted by Layhe
More wards are not the answer and never will be the answer. There will always be someone new coming along to say "but it would help me get a house, and that's all that matters."
Besides, as has been mentioned, with the new server visit abilities people will be able to shift around more freely and choose to "settle" on lower pop servers with houses available and still spend most of their time hanging out on other servers with friends. Is it ideal? Nope, but that's the deal they signed when they decided on non-instanced housing. -
03-06-2019, 10:37 AMLalarrific
They'd better start up NA auto-demo soon, or else hurricane season will start again. Then things will be guaranteed to stay shut down until at least February 2020. (IMHO, shutting down auto-demo for something that lasts half of every year is stupid.)
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03-06-2019, 12:56 PMInkstainedGwynIt's not "hurricane season", it's particularly nasty ones that completely level/destroy entire swaths of oceanfront cities and towns. Believe it or not, that doesn't happen every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lalarrific
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03-07-2019, 04:45 AMJojoyaPeople complaining about not having a house in a game when there are houses available is far more stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lalarrific
Don't worry, I'm sure auto-demo will start back up with the data center changes. -
03-14-2019, 04:41 AMBarraind
I hope 5.0 gets us instanced housing.
They've pretty much failed at every attempt to make housing wards a hub (my ward has 20+ of its 30 plots filled with active FC's and players, and I see maybe 2 of them a week, and 1 player who has an apartment there), so they might as well move to a housing system that will let players get as much enjoyment as possible out of their system. Hell, maybe it would get them to make item placement better.
Let me buy a plot, make a GIGANTIC house with a yard the size of the shroud and decorate it to the nines. And then anyone who wants to see it can find my name on a list of house owners in that clump and pop in. -
03-20-2019, 05:09 AMSamSmoot
Forget wards. Just give everyone access to instanced versions of housing plots. Not unlike WoW's garrisons. As you approach the plot, you see your house. but you can click the placard to see all the others there, and select any of them to view / tour. If you're in a group, you'll see the leader's house,. and, your FC's house as well.