Dream of the Fayth (High Summoners Attire, Abes Set)

I was really hoping that for this fan fest 2019, that they would re introduce both clothing sets and possibly the pets as well. It only seems fair that items exclusive to a fan fest would be purchasable again during a fan fest.

I played back in the day but couldn't purchase the e-ticket because of financial issues and I also thought they would re-introduce those items to the mog station at some point. What SE could have done this year was include the Dream of the Fayth with the current 2019 fan fest mount and pets as an extra bonus item? So that you can still buy the 2016 items in-game with the tokens. I wouldn't make it less special as its still a Fan fest exclusive.

I also find it annoying that alot of cool cosmetics and minions are locked behind events that never come round again. Seems like a waste of some amazing looking items.
I just wanted to know your guys opinion on the matter? Should they re-introduce these items at some point or not? Thanks!

It wouldn't really bother me if they made them purchasable (I have both sets) but I can also understand why people want them to be exclusive in some way.

I think the Moogle outfit on the Mogstation was from an earlier FanFest, so I would be surprised (and extremely disappointed) if they didn't add the Tidus/Yuna outfits on the Mogstation at some point as well. Hopefully they'll release it shortly after the Tokyo Fanfest this year.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

It wouldn't really bother me if they made them purchasable (I have both sets) but I can also understand why people want them to be exclusive in some way.

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I think wanting exclusivity, especially on an in-game item that is only bought and not earned by doing something like challenging content, is quite selfish.

I am fortunate enough to have these outfits and I 100% support removing the exclusivity. My love for them is absolutely not affected by their rarity. More people having access to them won't change how I feel about them.

And to those whose love for these outfits will diminish if the exclusivity is removed...well you didn't really love the outfits anyway. You loved having something because someone else could not.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

I think wanting exclusivity, especially on an in-game item that is only bought and not earned by doing something like challenging content, is quite selfish.

I am fortunate enough to have these outfits and I 100% support removing the exclusivity. My love for them is absolutely not affected by their rarity. More people having access to them won't change how I feel about them.

And to those whose love for these outfits will diminish if the exclusivity is removed...well you didn't really love the outfits anyway. You loved having something because someone else could not.

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Well, I don't think it would be selfish if people wanted the outfits to be purchased for the same amount or at least close towards the same purchasing price. I bought the outfits myself because I love FFX, but I can't lie and say that I wouldn't be miffed if they go into the Mogstation for $7.00 when I had to pay $30.

But yea, like you said, the change in exclusivity wouldn't change what they mean to me, however, giving them for cheaper to the masses is a reasonable thing to be peeved over.

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Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra

Well, I don't think it would be selfish if people wanted the outfits to be purchased for the same amount or at least close towards the same purchasing price. I bought the outfits myself because I love FFX, but I can't lie and say that I wouldn't be miffed if they go into the Mogstation for $7.00 when I had to pay $30.

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As far as I recall you got the outfits and the Yuna minion along with the fanfest virtual ticket. You personally may have been paying for just the outfits, but SE were selling you more than that.

If I am remembering the above correctly, then expect the items to be on the mog station for cheaper. First of all it's likely that the two outfits and the minion will be sold separately instead of being in a package, and secondly for obvious reasons SE won't also be selling a fan fest virtual ticket.

If I am wrong then please remind me of the relationship between the acquisition of the item codes and the fan fest ticket.

I at least want the option to exchange the male set for the female set and vice versa.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

As far as I recall you got the outfits and the Yuna minion along with the fanfest virtual ticket. You personally may have been paying for just the outfits, but SE were selling you more than that.

If I am remembering the above correctly, then expect the items to be on the mog station for cheaper. First of all it's likely that the two outfits and the minion will be sold separately instead of being in a package, and secondly for obvious reasons SE won't also be selling a fan fest virtual ticket.

If I am wrong then please remind me of the relationship between the acquisition of the item codes and the fan fest ticket.

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Regardless if SE was selling more than that at the time with the outfits, the outfits and minion was used as an incentive to purchase the $30 fanfest ticket too as those were items that you could only get by paying a one-time $30 transaction, and yes I did watch the fanfest as it gave me background noise at night while working on some stuff. However, it's not wrong to want the fanfest items to be equal or close towards the pre-existing price that they were thrown into. They don't have to be $30, but they should be close towards that amount, maybe at least half which would be $15 or $10 since, like you said, they'll be kept separate anyways.

So, as example math:

Yuna outfit = $10 each

Tidus outfit = $10 each

Yuna, Rikku, or Lulu minions = $5 or $7 each

Total Amount for a both outfits and 1 minion = $25-$27

That seems kinda adequate.

And even if someone just wants an outfit or 1 minion, it'll still be $15 or $17 which is about half of the fanfest price or a little over. That at least seems fair to me.

I honestly don't think it's a terrible thing to expect other people to pay a fair price like the previous people did, selling them for far lesser just because the fanfest ticket isn't with them just makes it seem like SE is disingenuous towards the people who paid more to have access to them.

We still have have one more fanfest to go, they may put them up on the mog station after the Japanese fanfest.

Generally they should do what they did with butler and maid set (and they probably will with Tidus and Yuna set)

2 versions
Exclusive extra
Mogstation

Exclusive extra can go into armoire while Mogstation one can not
This is right way to give out these exclusives ,since original owners still get some benefit while everyone else gets the glamour they want.

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Originally Posted by Freyt

I at least want the option to exchange the male set for the female set and vice versa.

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I think you can get both sets.

Only if you bought multiple streams. I think you got 4 tickets a stream, and the outfits cost 4? So if you bought 1 steam you could get 1 outfit, 2 you could bet both, 3 you had extras in your inventory forever.

As far as I see it, the exclusivity for such items should be in the form of having them earlier than other people. After a set time, though, I'd be perfectly content with seeing them made available for everybody. I reckon it's been long enough!

With that said, I still recall how much chaos a vocal minority caused in response to some earrings from 1.0 being made available during a recent seasonal event. I only hope that the development team are aware that such players are not representative of the community as a whole.

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Originally Posted by Pixiehawk

Only if you bought multiple streams. I think you got 4 tickets a stream, and the outfits cost 4? So if you bought 1 steam you could get 1 outfit, 2 you could bet both, 3 you had extras in your inventory forever.

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Ah, well, then hopefully they got enough. They probably won't have them be exchangeable since the two sets have different number of gears.

From what I heard, they were looking to add the FFX sets to the MogStation after the next FanFest in Tokyo, which would seem like the best time.

Interviewer: Previously "FFXIV" collaborated with "FFX", but when will that costume be released at the Mog station?
Yoshida: It should be added eventually. I hope to add it after the fan festival to be held in Tokyo.

Source (JP only): https://s.famitsu.com/news/201902/15171996.html

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Originally Posted by linay

Ah, well, then hopefully they got enough. They probably won't have them be exchangeable since the two sets have different number of gears.

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Currently they are not exchangeable (and one FanFest ticket only gave you enough for one outfit).

Thanks for the replies everyone! ^.^ It was fun to read your responses. The post by Kurando is definitely interesting. It would be a perfect time to release the FFX outfits around that time and the source gives me hope it does. I guess i'll just have to be a bit more patient like I have been for the past few years.

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Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra

Regardless if SE was selling more than that at the time with the outfits, the outfits and minion was used as an incentive to purchase the $30 fanfest ticket too as those were items that you could only get by paying a one-time $30 transaction, and yes I did watch the fanfest as it gave me background noise at night while working on some stuff. However, it's not wrong to want the fanfest items to be equal or close towards the pre-existing price that they were thrown into. They don't have to be $30, but they should be close towards that amount, maybe at least half which would be $15 or $10 since, like you said, they'll be kept separate anyways.

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Whether the fanfest was just backround noise to you or not is irrelevant. You still paid for access to it.

As for the items being an incentive. Yes that's true but how does this mean they should be priced as if they still come with fanfest access when they no longer would? People would be paying the same as you but would be getting less. That's pretty crappy.

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Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra

So, as example math:

Yuna outfit = $10 each

Tidus outfit = $10 each

Yuna, Rikku, or Lulu minions = $5 or $7 each

Total Amount for a both outfits and 1 minion = $25-$27

That seems kinda adequate.

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This math will only look right if you're not aware of how the outfits currently work. Currently you can't have both the Tidus and Yuna outfits on one character. You get tokens you can exchange for pieces of either outfit. You can swap them if you change your mind later, but the point is you can never have both outfits at the same time. So this could mean the fanfest ticket price itself is worth more than you think.

That being said the prices you projected for the items seem about right when compared to similar items on the mog station. But it also means if you and I wanted to own both outfits at once on the same character we would have to buy another, and that's an extra $10. We would be paying another fee on top of the fanfest and goodies bundle. That's $40, not $30.

Considering the pricing you put on the items is the same as many similar items on the mog station, then we can conclude that the virtual ticket is worth around $10. Assuming SE would agree with the prices you projected.

Players rarely buy gender locked outfits they can't use on their character. So this means that most players interested in the items for use on their character would buy only one outfit. While you and I can exchange one outfit for the other, lets face it...it's not too different to having only one outfit considering we can't wear Tidus's outfit unless we fantasia. The advantage we have is if we do change gender we don't have to buy a second outfit. We can just swap them.

But your prices look right and you seem happy with them. I think the prices are reasonable as well. So while the math isn't as straight forward as you presented it, we do agree on the prices the items should be. While we have different opinions on what is worth what with the virtual ticket bundle, in the end we come to the same conclusion :)

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Originally Posted by Penthea

Whether the fanfest was just backround noise to you or not is irrelevant. You still paid for access to it.

As for the items being an incentive. Yes that's true but how does this mean they should be priced as if they still come with fanfest access when they no longer would? People would be paying the same as you but would be getting less. That's pretty crappy.

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That's why I don't think they should ever have those incentives be sold separately, because they weren't sold in the first place. They were bonus for purchasing the fan fest.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

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Well, also, keep in mind that even if the outfits are gender locked and you can't use both on one character. It is quite possible for someone to still have a female main character and a male alt or vice versa. So, it could still be possible to have both outfits on one service account, but, like you said, just not on the same character itself. My main and most of my alts are females, however, I do have one male alt as well and the tickets automatically turn into Tidus's garb since the outfit reward itself is account wide and therefore, will be an in-game mailing reward upon the creation of another character no matter what.