Hydatos NM'S

I was just in Hydatos instance for over 2 hours and ones kept killing mobs to spawn nm's there and only the lvl 50 one ever spawned. But said all the nm's was open in it. Not once did even Ovni spawn during those 2 hours. Please increase there spawn times or increase amount crystals each one drops. Getting 8 crystals in 2 hours when need 350 for just the weapon is way to low.

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No NM's spawned because people were probably doing nothing but Bunny FATE. Ovni will also not spawn while anyone is in BA.

It's been theorized that the Hydatos NMs do not operate under the same spawn rules as Pagos/Pyros where you can prepare them by killing mobs in advance.

I'm inclined to believe that because I've never seen something pop with no one in the vicinity actively killing things.

I think the Crystal rate is fine
Especially is ovni pops so frequent

350 is really easy to get ive almost made 2 relics in that time (plus ive augmented 3 tank pieces with them).

Now when you said "ones" leads me to think you didn't help and expect them to spawn them for you be surprised how many fates would spawn if you help out.

With more and more trying BA ovni does come out to play less but i find this step so much easier than anemos.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

I think the Crystal rate is fine
Especially is ovni pops so frequent

350 is really easy to get ive almost made 2 relics in that time (plus ive augmented 3 tank pieces with them).

Now when you said "ones" leads me to think you didn't help and expect them to spawn them for you be surprised how many fates would spawn if you help out.

With more and more trying BA ovni does come out to play less but i find this step so much easier than anemos.

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I disagree. On the JP servers at least, most of the players are obsessed with BA and aren't spawning NM's. I've not even seen Crystalline Provenance once yet.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

It's been theorized that the Hydatos NMs do not operate under the same spawn rules as Pagos/Pyros where you can prepare them by killing mobs in advance.

I'm inclined to believe that because I've never seen something pop with no one in the vicinity actively killing things.

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Nah that should still work that you farm mobs and the fate spawned either directly, if the conditions that no one knew were right, or it spawned shortly after we were done. Most interesting thing is that all the right side NM's are a lot harder to spawn after the hotfix that we've got.

While anecdotal i've also seen examples of this. When people are in BA sometimes NM spawns just seem to... stop? Possibly just extremely slowing down? While it can be accounted to less people doing spawns, it did happen to me once when we had 3 confirmed spawn groups rotating around the map in different level ranges. This episode lasted roughly 40 something minutes and spawns started chain-popping in rapid order as the BA group got booted.

But again, just anecdotal and while suspicious, possibly just due to less people spawning.

I don't think I have seen anyone prep anything in there at all tbh.

I regularly solo/duo spawn the left side stuff in a short amount of time (minus the bird, who seems to take several hundred kills), but right side stuff seems to take multiple groups long periods of time.

Theres either unknown spawn conditions for all of those (it took 6 groups something like 110 minutes to spawn PW, and in that time 3 people had spawned 5 other nm's), or the requirements are wonky.

Ceto's spawn seems to be really odd. I just saw him for the first time last night, after doing at least a full run each day since release. On a few of those eves multiple parties killed hundreds of the snake ladies to pop him(?... It?) Left mobs, PW, and even King were popped during this. Still no Ceto.

The Lion is pretty rare also, but I think it's because no one bothers to pop him as he drops no claw or horn.

I've seen PW being popped in all weather conditions, and with various other fates cleared/not cleared. It seems that it's mostly raw numbers of claws that have to die to make him come out to play. 300 seems to be the guess.

We really could use a theory craft thread to try and zero in on conditions, or at least eliminate bad assumptions (Like PW needing weather)

After a couple instances with 560+ claws killed, every other NM spawned at least once, multiple ovni, every weather condition seen and several alternate spawn conditions from other zones met, I have absolutely no idea how PW actually spawns, but I hate this zone.