Ragnarok EU - Are you going?

This post is meant to be a simple poll if you are actually wanting to move to Ragnarok, just to see how interested people are about this world.

So..

[SIZE="5"]Like this post if you are sure you are going to transfer your character to the new EU world.[/SIZE]

Also if you want, you can write a reply with a reason why you want to move?

When the signups for the server begin, I'd like to see some numbers from SE how many people are actually going there, that's why I kinda made this thread in advance to see how popular the new world is going to be. :)

Could you please at least bother to check the previous pages on the forum before you hit that post button?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...0-EU-%E2%80%9D

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Originally Posted by Catharsis

Could you please at least bother to check the previous pages on the forum before you hit that post button?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...0-EU-%E2%80%9D

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I did check it by searching and found no _poll_ for this on the forums. Besides, the thread you linked isn't a poll, it's an opinion/questionnaire thread. My thread hopefully shows some number of people interested in this new world, without actually counting the people from the replies yourself. I hope you understand the difference. It was my mistake for not putting the POLL infront of the thread topic as it cannot be changed afterwards. Some people find it easier to just hit the like button, without actually writing a reply with a long reason why they want to move.

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Originally Posted by Nasibihc

I did check it by searching and found no _poll_ for this on the forums. Besides, the thread you linked isn't a poll, it's an opinion/questionnaire thread. My thread hopefully shows some number of people interested in this new world, without actually counting the people from the replies yourself. I hope you understand the difference. It was my mistake for not putting the POLL infront of the thread topic as it cannot be changed afterwards. Some people find it easier to just hit the like button, without actually writing a reply with a long reason why they want to move.

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There are several polls running around on several threads about this.

In short: Some are going and some don't want to at all. You're not going to get a real percentage off of something like this.

Nope, staying on Selbi...Ridill.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

There are several polls running around on several threads about this.

In short: Some are going and some don't want to at all. You're not going to get a real percentage off of something like this.

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Oh well, I did try to search the topics for Ragnarok, but I guess I failed when I didn't find anything (edit: for a straightforward poll. Oh yeah sure there were discussion threads, but no poll about it). Yeah well, it's still worth a try. Personally I'm not in favor of moving there. It'd be nice if SE actually combined the servers first and then asked if those people still want to move there. Merging the servers will boost the populations up a lot anyways.

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Originally Posted by Nasibihc

Oh well, I did try to search the topics for Ragnarok, but I guess I failed when I didn't find anything (edit: for a straightforward poll. Oh yeah sure there were discussion threads, but no poll about it). Yeah well, it's still worth a try. Personally I'm not in favor of moving there. It'd be nice if SE actually combined the servers first and then asked if those people still want to move there. Merging the servers will boost the populations up a lot anyways.

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Don't sweat it, I'm not busting your chops at all - people make duplicate threads all the time. Was just saying there are polls up (using off site polling methods). And as for me I have no interest. I can understand why some would because they're fractured or don't belong to a strong EU LS.

http://xivpads.com/?ServerMerge

in Pads Ragnarok is the second one with more popularity, seems we will have not any problem

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Originally Posted by Nasibihc

I did check it by searching and found no _poll_ for this on the forums.

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Didn't look very hard did ya :D

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ver#post557757

I am not going anywhere, I will be on Gungnir forever.

I'm not. I'm british, and spanish/german/french players irritated the hell out of me on FFXI.

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Originally Posted by faris

I'm not. I'm british, and spanish/german/french players irritated the hell out of me on FFXI.

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can you give me a reason?

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

can you give me a reason?

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Don't take this the wrong way if you're French/German/Spanish, but I found French players on Ragnarok arrogant, Germans unable or incapable of taking directions due to language barriers (which is stupid. I've lived in Germany before and the German people are generally very good at english and auto-translate existed on the game) and a constant stream of "jajajajajajajajaja" from Spanish players just pissed me off.

I know all players aren't like that, but it put me off to the extent I only partied with people with a decent grasp of english. So for that reason, I'm not going. Personal preference. Being on a server that is for that is hell to me.

EDIT: Additionally, my French language skills aren't good, my German worse, and my Spanish is non-existent. The UK is a megamegamega minority in Europe, and the idea of isolating myself on a server that caters for 90% non-english speakers isn't my (very english) cup of tea.

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

in Pads Ragnarok is the second one with more popularity, seems we will have not any problem

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Indeed! Ragnarok 725 (Can double/triple that figure for those who don't know/like Pads), I will be posting the Timezones of selections once we get more concentrate data.

Hardly doubt that UK players are a minority, the only thing is you cannot see them among everyone else, since they just speak English.

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Originally Posted by viion

I will be posting the Timezones of selections once we get more concentrate data.

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Sorry does this mean you are going to post stats for each server, language and location based on what you have collected ?

I wish the lodestone was half as good as your site lol.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Sorry does this mean you are going to post stats for each server, language and location based on what you have collected ?

I wish the lodestone was half as good as your site lol.

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Yes, all users have entered in their country, so through this we can show which timezone will be going where, the only issue is trying to get non member timezone data. XD

Still, I applaud your efforts prem but not a single person of our 80 person (and active) LS is on pads. Its a good indicator of whos going but doesn't even come close to reflecting who is and isn't going with the real numbers. About half that 80 is EU and 2 of that half are thinking about going (they're French) with the rest not wanting to touch Ragnarock with a barge pole.

Dunno - suppose its better then not.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

Still, I applaud your efforts prem but not a single person of our 80 person (and active) LS is on pads. Its a good indicator of whos going but doesn't even come close to reflecting who is and isn't going with the real numbers. About half that 80 is EU and 2 of that half are thinking about going (they're French) with the rest not wanting to touch Ragnarock with a barge pole.

Dunno - suppose its better then not.

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I could add your LS and move them now :P

Also I did say double the figure, it is infact a very good indicator, plus if you click "Show All" you can see how well the other servers is doing with nearly 30'000 characters automatically merged.

Your 80 members means 10% to what is not there, 5% if you doubled for roundabout predictions, it is also a very good indicator considering the amount of people playing. Not to mention, if more people joined up, like yourself and moved your LS over, its so easy to do and will help everyone, if everyone did this, we'd have more solid figures.

I can only build the tools and do so much, I rely on you, the community to use and fill it up, there is not much more than that I can do.

Also would you rather have a poll with 15-30 votes or a site which lists them and already nearing 1k selections. I think my page is the best source of information around, well the Japanese think so XD (2k JP/day is hurting my server!)

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Originally Posted by Antipika

Hardly doubt that UK players are a minority, the only thing is you cannot see them among everyone else, since they just speak English.

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I don't think you got my meaning, sorry for being unclear. In the EU, native English speakers are a minority, obviously.

The only reason the english language is so big otherwise is the Americans. Without the Americans and on an EU server, non-native speakers (Germans, French, etc.) generally aren't going to communicate in English because they don't have to. there's no way they're going to form Linkshells and speak English within them when they can speak their own language. (Which, rightly so.)

If, hypothetically, I went -- A few might choose to speak English to explain things to me but the majority of Linkshells and parties and shouts will be non-english speaking. I don't want to sign up for that. I'd be about as isolated as if I applied to go onto a JP server if one of those ever sees the light of day.

Vackashken doth proteth too much me thinks.

I think the fact 700 (numbers gone down :O) people are willing to sign up to a new server is a pretty good indicator, granted it doesn't take everyone into account so you just have to extrapolate the rest.

I just hope come merge week lodestone will have just as detailed information regarding server population as pads does. (its unlikely though)

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Vackashken doth proteth too much me thinks.

I think the fact 700 (numbers gone down :O) people are willing to sign up to a new server is a pretty good indicator, granted it doesn't take everyone into account so you just have to extrapolate the rest.

I just hope come merge week lodestone will have just as detailed information regarding server population as pads does. (its unlikely though)

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We might find out, they did say they was going to release server caps, so through this we might have a nice idea.

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Don't take this the wrong way if you're French/German/Spanish, but I found French players on Ragnarok arrogant, Germans unable or incapable of taking directions due to language barriers (which is stupid. I've lived in Germany before and the German people are generally very good at english and auto-translate existed on the game) and a constant stream of "jajajajajajajajaja" from Spanish players just pissed me off.

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No sense, Arrogant are everywhere, for example u are beeing arrogant saying that.
German cant take direction due language barrier? never happens to me, german are good in english, probably is how u ask them to take directions.
i am spanish, and i feel so sorry for u reading so stupid reason.. like others countries dont spam "lols" "LMFAO" etc, what happens? we dont laugh pro-style? seems irrelevant complaint for me.

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Originally Posted by faris

Don't take this the wrong way if you're French/German/Spanish, but I found French players on Ragnarok arrogant, Germans unable or incapable of taking directions due to language barriers (which is stupid. I've lived in Germany before and the German people are generally very good at english and auto-translate existed on the game) and a constant stream of "jajajajajajajajaja" from Spanish players just pissed me off.

I know all players aren't like that, but it put me off to the extent I only partied with people with a decent grasp of english. So for that reason, I'm not going. Personal preference. Being on a server that is for that is hell to me.

EDIT: Additionally, my French language skills aren't good, my German worse, and my Spanish is non-existent. The UK is a megamegamega minority in Europe, and the idea of isolating myself on a server that caters for 90% non-english speakers isn't my (very english) cup of tea.

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I like the "don't take this the wrong way"... which is the right way to take that post?

Also, in any server that's not one language only, the most spoken one is going to be english. Everyone will speak their own among themselves, and (more or less broken) english with anyone else... exactly as it's done right now. Hell, you could make a French/German/Spanish server for example, no english-speaking countries whatsoever, and the language to go would still be english. A french player is not going to speak with a german one in french or german, after all.

I thought about it until I noticed Selbina isn't merging. It's a good server, I'm doing pretty well there so I'm just going to stay where I am.

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Originally Posted by faris

I don't think you got my meaning, sorry for being unclear. In the EU, native English speakers are a minority, obviously.

The only reason the english language is so big otherwise is the Americans. Without the Americans and on an EU server, non-native speakers (Germans, French, etc.) generally aren't going to communicate in English because they don't have to. there's no way they're going to form Linkshells and speak English within them when they can speak their own language. (Which, rightly so.)

If, hypothetically, I went -- A few might choose to speak English to explain things to me but the majority of Linkshells and parties and shouts will be non-english speaking. I don't want to sign up for that. I'd be about as isolated as if I applied to go onto a JP server if one of those ever sees the light of day.

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Again, doubt this will happen. There won't be enough FR or DE players in order to shout only in French and German. Won't even mention Spanish and Italian players or players coming from the rest of Europe.

English will remain the language used everywhere (shouts, trade/seek repairs, etc.). Then within linkshell, nothing will change. French Linkshell off course will use French, German Linkshells will use German etc. But that's already the case on Worlds we have now.

Unless the Linkshell is "international" or "EU", English won't be used. But how is that an issue? Just get on any EU/International LS you can find and you're done.

probably he talk in english with Japanese in him server too, oh wait, noone compaint about japanese talking their language, they are.. japanese!

Japanese make this game. I love them ! In the new servers seem to be japanese majority in each of them except Ragnarok not quite sure. Personally I'd like to see more Spanish/Greek/Swedish whatever minority threads here in their own language.

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Originally Posted by charlemagne

Nope, staying on Selbi...Ridill.

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You decided to stay :) Get that Rambo Archer to 50 yet?

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Originally Posted by Northman

Japanese make this game.

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I don't mind Japanese at all, but how is it so many people think this bullshit, it just isn't true at all.

In another famous game I'm everyday collecting bullshit for crafting purposes. I don't know what the devs have there been thinking. But I enjoy that bullshit, too. (With this I don't mean this is bullshit (this game I mean) but I mean the shit in another game). English is difficult. Shit.

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Originally Posted by Aku

I like the "don't take this the wrong way"... which is the right way to take that post?

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Taking it as my reasoning for not going would be a great start.

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Originally Posted by Aku

Also, in any server that's not one language only, the most spoken one is going to be english. Everyone will speak their own among themselves, and (more or less broken) english with anyone else... exactly as it's done right now. Hell, you could make a French/German/Spanish server for example, no english-speaking countries whatsoever, and the language to go would still be english. A french player is not going to speak with a german one in french or german, after all.

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Personally, I doubt it. But that's your opinion, and what you think will happen. I think something different will happen. I'm not planning on risking having a crappy gaming experience with no way to change servers again if things are as I think they'll be on the hope it isn't, though. If you are, more power to you. I'm not up for recreating another character on another server if I feel isolated due to language issues on Ragnarok.

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Originally Posted by Antipika

Again, doubt this will happen. There won't be enough FR or DE players in order to shout only in French and German. Won't even mention Spanish and Italian players or players coming from the rest of Europe.

English will remain the language used everywhere (shouts, trade/seek repairs, etc.). Then within linkshell, nothing will change. French Linkshell off course will use French, German Linkshells will use German etc. But that's already the case on Worlds we have now.

Unless the Linkshell is "international" or "EU", English won't be used. But how is that an issue? Just get on any EU/International LS you can find and you're done.

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As above. I'm not risking it, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

No sense, Arrogant are everywhere, for example u are beeing arrogant saying that.
German cant take direction due language barrier? never happens to me, german are good in english, probably is how u ask them to take directions.
i am spanish, and i feel so sorry for u reading so stupid reason.. like others countries dont spam "lols" "LMFAO" etc, what happens? we dont laugh pro-style? seems irrelevant complaint for me.

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Whoa, don't cry. Those players put me off from partying with non-english speakers. That's a personal thing, and I've mentioned that not every player is like that, but it's put me off. You asked me why I don't want to go to a server full of European people, and I told you. There's no reason to get so emotional over it, whether you see it as "irrelevant" or not. It's how I feel and why I won't move my character to that server.

Nope, I'm staying on Saronia, aka Sargatanas^^ Will be fun to see people from Lindblum :3