Please allow us to show our total number of acheivement points below our avatar! :')

As the title suggests, I'd like for people to have the option to display the total number of achievement points that they've acquired on the character they use to post with.

It'd be an additional incentive to tackle them in-game and it's also make it easier to identify fellow achievement hunters! Some MMO's have such a feature already, so that's another argument for it I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It'd be an additional incentive to tackle them in-game

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What do you mean by this? It almost makes it sound like you want people to be targeted? o.O

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Originally Posted by Penthea

What do you mean by this? It almost makes it sound like you want people to be targeted? o.O

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Tackle them, as in tackle the achievements themselves.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Tackle them, as in tackle the achievements themselves.

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Oh right, sorry. My bad. I get it now.

If this is added, I am willing to switch to Monk and tackle other players in-game.

Just put your number of achievements in your signature if you want to let other forum readers see how much you have completed?

If this is added, please also add an option to disable this display for those who don't care about it. Same as the options that we currently have to turn off titles or pet names or etc.

Only if you lose one achievement point every time you post and when you run out you get permabanned from the OF.

I rather have something to do with the achievement points. I got a mount and a minion about a year ago. That was exciting.

There are already incentives though by way of mounts, titles and glamour?

I guess people want their bragging rights.

I do.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

I guess people want their bragging rights.

I do.

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I s'pose that makes sense. I'm by no means close to what many veterans have pointwise but I do have roughly just under 40% of all of them....

That said though, if you find yourself caring about achievements I recommend using apkallufalls.com/character-select/ or similar tools

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Originally Posted by Dreggit

That said though, if you find yourself caring about achievements I recommend using apkallufalls.com/character-select/ or similar tools

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That's really one of my biggest peeves about this game. We rely so much on third party tools when it'd be such a QoL to just have them in game. And I'm not talking about divisive things like Parsers, but even simpler things, like "Hark, adventurer! They say this S rank was recently killed! I do not expect them to resurface for at least the next 20:45:34 hours!"
Why do I still need to look up gathering node info if I already hit them. What the fudge is the gathering log even good for. Why are you like this, game?

On topic, I wouldn't mind seeing the achiev points

I think a problem with the third party sites is a lot of them use arbitrary rules.
Like no seasonal event achievements. No legacy achievements. Saw one that didn't include PvP achievements.

Basically saying to us "All this work you did doesn't count." And that's just unfair to the people who put in the work.

I think the best one I've found was a Japanese one, but I don't know what kind of system they use since it doesn't seem to include everyone in their top contender list.

As far as I know the only way that trackers reliably track information is via public information from the Lodestone.

Honestly a huge problem with 14 in general are the multilayered menus of navigation required to access information or a function.

I can't really care about achievements all that much but I see the value of showing their merit. The achievement point vendor could use a lot of work. As it stands it's a useless feature.

Everyone has their own sources of enjoyment and a particular end game goal for themselves. I won't put someone down for what they like to do but if I know anything from PSN and tropht information. Having that (achievement score) easily viewable can lead to a number of conversations that may or may not be wanted or could lead to a community akin to a 'mile high club' of sorts.

In the end it doesn't really matter to me. I like to tank and help people. But what do I know? I'm a nobody with the foolish endgame goal of acquiring all triple triad cards.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

I guess people want their bragging rights.

I do.

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Giving you a 'Like!' because I'm really impressed by your achievement points on Lodestone. :D

I don't even have 8k. /shame

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Originally Posted by Dreggit

I'm a nobody with the foolish endgame goal of acquiring all triple triad cards.

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Nothing foolish about that. Hold your head high, brother!

Years ago achievwments and trophies were pretty cool. My friends and I used to be quite competitive over such things. these days though you get them for nothing.

Kill your first enemy! >> Ding!! Some form of first blood achievement...
Made it past the opening credits. >> . Ding! Adventure begins achievement...
Collect your first collectible of 100+ items >> Ding! some form of treasure hunter beginner trophy..

Or many many things equally as stupid.

Or even worse these days achievements that reward you for playing badly.
Died 30 times!! dinggggg! achievement....
finihsed a mission with lower than 20% accuracy. DING!... achievement.
Lost an online match! Ding!!
lost 100 online matches. DING!!

These are just a few random ones I remember from various games I've played. but there's literally millions of them. They've just gone completely stupid these days..
I think thats why many people have stopped caring.. I used to be quite an avid trophy hunter on the PS4 proud of my 29 or so platinum trophies but when you find your friends who never finish a game ever are 5 levels higher than you because they got so many trash trophies it just kinda defeats the point

On one hand it would be cool to show them but on the other hand this can open quite the cans of worms too. What if people decide that you are not allowed to have an opinion if you dont have x amount of points even if you can still form an educated opinion about something?

So give them to us but also make sure that any sentence about someone not having a good enough opinion because of those should get punished for that. This way its truly just a nice way to show how much you play the game without holding it over other peoples head.

I think this would be cool. But my problem is that I could see people using this as a way to show they are better than other people because “x number is bigger than yours so I’m therefore better, stronger, or smarter than you.” Especially since not everyone does every kind of content, so those that do all but raiding would have more points (in theory) than those that exclusively raid. That being said, there’s no guarantee that it will happen.

Honestly, I’d prefer a title display like in-game.

I'm game for it.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

On one hand it would be cool to show them but on the other hand this can open quite the cans of worms too. What if people decide that you are not allowed to have an opinion if you dont have x amount of points even if you can still form an educated opinion about something?

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There's already ratings or whatnot with the medals above your avatar.
Nobody uses them like this, I've never seen them called into account like what you're fearing.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

There's already ratings or whatnot with the medals above your avatar.
Nobody uses them like this, I've never seen them called into account like what you're fearing.

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The medals indicate being active on the forum. It's hardly something one can use to back up their argument. However, I have seen some people use lines like "you don't raid so how would you know that" to try and silence others. Achievement points show how much someone has played this game, so I can foresee it being used in debates about content consumption and longevity. "The game is not stale for you only because you have less than 5k achievement points."

Not that it matters, though. People who would take apart their fellow players instead of flawed reasoning aren't worth engaging.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

The medals indicate being active on the forum. It's hardly something one can use to back up their argument. However, I have seen some people use lines like "you don't raid so how would you know that" to try and silence others.

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To be fair, that's a legitimate argument in some cases. Quite often I've seen bad advice thrown around. It'll get people by for lower content, and may give the immediate resolution someone's looking for. But wouldn't ever hold up in endgame content. It's better to get whatever is in question resolved properly rather than some lazy alternative unsuited for endgame.

That being said, I don't have my o12s kill yet, so no achievement for me :(

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Originally Posted by Canadane

To be fair, that's a legitimate argument in some cases. Quite often I've seen bad advice thrown around.

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If the advice is bad, it's bad because there is a better way of doing things and not because the advice giver doesn't raid. Comments should stand or fall on their own merits.

Seems like a waste of development to me, but then again we have pagos so why the hell not

Im up for it just if seasonal achivements count as 0 in total input. Woudnt be fair for new players or not that new to work on something u cant never complete due seasonal events that cant be achieved anymore.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

As the title suggests, I'd like for people to have the option to display the total number of achievement points that they've acquired on the character they use to post with.

It'd be an additional incentive to tackle them in-game and it's also make it easier to identify fellow achievement hunters! Some MMO's have such a feature already, so that's another argument for it I suppose.

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"Jeez... that guy's dick is massive... mine is so small."

Yeah, lets have dick measuring contests OUTSIDE of instances... JFC...

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Originally Posted by SekkerOfTrust

Im up for it just if seasonal achivements count as 0 in total input. Woudnt be fair for new players or not that new to work on something u cant never complete due seasonal events that cant be achieved anymore.

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Yeah But then that wouldn't be fair on existing players if there achievements counted as zero..

If your going to do it it needs to count every achievement. Or none at all.

There's absolutely nothing unfair about a player having an achievement for a season event they did 4 years ago when someone else didn't play back then and thus doesn't have it.

I barely even touch seasonal events think the last one I did was the go go posing rangers.

I'm not worried about the system being abused. The moderators typically crack down hard on needless aggression, after all.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

There's already ratings or whatnot with the medals above your avatar.
Nobody uses them like this, I've never seen them called into account like what you're fearing.

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Because unlike points these medals dont even mean much. You get them no matter how deeply you play the game as long as you post enough. Points on the other hand are created by playing the game itself thus a low amount could be seen as not doing many parts of the game but it also should never be used to put down a argument.

About punishment and mods: There are enough people on this forum that have posted personal insults and are still posting. So I am not really sure if they would truly punish such posters. But if they do, then I would have less problems with them showing the points.