Pyros Light and Lines, what am I doing wrong?

I've re-rolled my relic 5 times now and still only have one line. Only accepted one of those rolls due to bad stats on the other rolls. This is getting really frustrating.

Should I be accepting every roll until I get 5 lines? Is there some sort of bad luck RNG protection for getting lines that I'm not getting because I'm not accepting them?

Yes, you'll want to keep any rolls you get up to getting 5 lines, after you've accepted 5 lines every roll after that will also be 5 lines, so then you can start picking and choosing which rolls you want to keep or throw out.

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Originally Posted by Gralna

Yes, you'll want to keep any rolls you get up to getting 5 lines, after you've accepted 5 lines every roll after that will also be 5 lines, so then you can start picking and choosing which rolls you want to keep or throw out.

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Problem is, I'm stuck on one line and not getting the 2nd. Yes, RNG is RNG but this just seems absurd. My relic is only 15% of it's potential stats because of RNG.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...tem_explained/

Seems like you actually have to be lucky and have the next roll not overwrite the row you just got (in case it's a stat and an amount you like).

same problem, just wasted like 20 light and stuck on one line... this makes no sense..

its "rng" if the weapon will accept a 2nd line and not just overwrite the last??

It probably only took me 8 or so rolls to reach 5 lines but I could never get what would be considered a god tier roll. Random will be random, though I wish I could have chosen my own stats to begin with. The RNG stat system is terrible.

my bf & I accepted all of our rolls as we were unlocking our lines; it took me 10 rolls to get all 5 and it took him 21. I assume it's pure random if you unlock another line or not; just got to keep rolling unfortunately unless there's another condition that has been discovered. Just keep accepting them since the stats before the 5th line rolls don't matter too much.

He mentioned it took him 8 rolls before he even got his 2nd line.

12 rolls till I got 5 lines.....that step alone makes Pyros the worse in my opinion

You have to accept the rolls for new lines to be added later. I did it 5 times before while rejecting all of them and never got a new line. When I started to accept them, after my next 5 rolls, I started getting a line each new roll till I got 5 lines.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

I've re-rolled my relic 5 times now and still only have one line. Only accepted one of those rolls due to bad stats on the other rolls. This is getting really frustrating.

Should I be accepting every roll until I get 5 lines? Is there some sort of bad luck RNG protection for getting lines that I'm not getting because I'm not accepting them?

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At the beginning you want to accept everything that gives you more lines doesn't matter the stats. After that you can start with the actual "joy" of this weapon and farm light until you get decent stats.
Everything about this light step is frustrating not just the way to the 5 lines, exept you are one of the luckiest people alive.

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Originally Posted by Ilan

At the beginning you want to accept everything that gives you more lines doesn't matter the stats. After that you can start with the actual "joy" of this weapon and farm light until you get decent stats.
Everything about this light step is frustrating not just the way to the 5 lines, exept you are one of the luckiest people alive.

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this is what I didnt get at first and its total BS of SE not really explaining it better...

sure, many things in Eureka are not explained on purpose, but this "rng line" system is full retarted (sorry for the wording) and Yoshi should never have agreed to allow it in the game the way it is, without better elaboration

Holy necro Batman.

Oh well, I will chime in on something.

The lines should be guaranteed +1 every re roll and the RNG should only ultimately matter at the end. Meaning in 5 rolls you should have 5 lines and then the RNG fun really begins.

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Originally Posted by Alucard135

You have to accept the rolls for new lines to be added later. I did it 5 times before while rejecting all of them and never got a new line. When I started to accept them, after my next 5 rolls, I started getting a line each new roll till I got 5 lines.

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That's eventually what I started doing and got to 4 lines and never got my fifth due to running out of re-rolls.

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Originally Posted by Shiroe

this is what I didnt get at first and its total BS of SE not really explaining it better...

sure, many things in Eureka are not explained on purpose, but this "rng line" system is full retarted (sorry for the wording) and Yoshi should never have agreed to allow it in the game the way it is, without better elaboration

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I fell into that trap too and it took a while to understand it and yes this rng is the worst because once you have some decent stats you'll think twice if you go for the 5 lines or not (i only have 4 lines but the i refuse to accept roles that give me complete crap stats).

This is what makes this relic the worst that we had so far because for every other relic you could choose the secondary stats at one point.

Always accept till you have 5 lines then you can be picky when rerolling.

It took me 38 Smoldering Protean Crystals on my Bard to reach over 650 stat points on my Pyros Bard Bow, and now the stats I have aren't even optimal. I'm gonna have to go and try for more eventually, but I don't have the patience right now. I already have a full set of every class's elemental gear and 2,500 Pyros Crystals to spare.

Light farming is already the worst part of every relic. Adding even more RNG to this step is insult to injury. I don't think anyone sane was clamoring for random stats on a relic weapon.

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Originally Posted by TheGrimace

It took me 38 Smoldering Protean Crystals on my Bard to reach over 650 stat points on my Pyros Bard Bow, and now the stats I have aren't even optimal. I'm gonna have to go and try for more eventually, but I don't have the patience right now. I already have a full set of every class's elemental gear and 2,500 Pyros Crystals to spare.

Light farming is already the worst part of every relic. Adding even more RNG to this step is insult to injury. I don't think anyone sane was clamoring for random stats on a relic weapon.

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they made it so that you could almost "break the mold" by having good luck on rolls for stats. if we could choose then the final relic wouldn't be any better than omega weapon's substats number spread.

This is another thing curbing my willingness to go into Eureka again. I'd rather be able to choose my stats rather than have to suffer a Diablo esq random chance system.

Hope you don't mind if I ask another Pyros question here instead of making a new thread.

A FC mate of mine is trying to get the pyros armor, and bought a bunch of logograms and says he has all 50 actions now. Does he have to reach a certain level in Pyros to unlock the vendor to buy the armor? I want to help him but I only focused on the weapon and stopped at 30 logos actions. I'm guessing he has to progress to a certain point in the Pyros story or something to start buying the armor?

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

Hope you don't mind if I ask another Pyros question here instead of making a new thread.

A FC mate of mine is trying to get the pyros armor, and bought a bunch of logograms and says he has all 50 actions now. Does he have to reach a certain level in Pyros to unlock the vendor to buy the armor? I want to help him but I only focused on the weapon and stopped at 30 logos actions. I'm guessing he has to progress to a certain point in the Pyros story or something to start buying the armor?

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Once I unlocked 50 logos, I just had to talk to drake again to unlock the armor. For me, this happened after I had already finished the pyros story, so I don't know if there is a story quest requirement or not.

in order to unlock the armor vendor you must have at least finished a pagos elemental weapon first.