I just heard the news about new game plus and I gotta say I am THRILLED. This is what I've always wanted, to re-experience the story, in addition to a new way to level side jobs. With the ability to start at specific base patches, I have to wonder, could we expect a "reborn" 1.0 someday? I would love to play the 1.0 storyline, as I never had the chance to before the Calamity.
I dont think it would be terribly difficult, keep the basic weapon system the same as 2.0+, divide the zones like we have them now, but add the quests and story from back then, I dont know if all of that data was saved prior to servers shutting down, if they were I'd imagine it would be all the easier.
New Game Plus suggestion: 1.0
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11-30-2018, 11:52 AMMaester_XenosNew Game Plus suggestion: 1.0
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11-30-2018, 12:00 PMAkonyl
I doubt repositioning/importing everything that existed in the old world into the new world is anywhere near the small task you're thinking it is. I wouldn't doubt the systems are different enough either now that an import wouldn't be easy even if the areas still matched.
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11-30-2018, 12:04 PMDerio
I just wish new game + came out before 5.0
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11-30-2018, 12:05 PMMaester_Xenos
Perhaps, I know virtually nothing about the process, simply speculation on my end. Well, I'd accept an "expansion" based on that then, based on the same premise. Rebuild it from the ground up, add storyline, new game plus allows us to keep our characters and it drops us back where we left off.
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11-30-2018, 03:07 PMNiraye
if you watched the fan-fest stream (im not being rude just using it so people can go back in and find what im talking about) they stated you will not be losing current progress and would be doing the story over at that characters level, that means anyone who is lvl 70 (or lvl 80) can go back in and do it at lvl those lvls. plus it will be completely unique to ffxiv meaning it will not be like other games version of new-game +, they referenced another mmo that has this but i dont remember the name, but that doesn't mean it will be exactly like it, and they said it will be subject to change because its still in development
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11-30-2018, 06:50 PMInochDid they even say you can get experience again if you already did the story? Pretty sure they didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maester_Xenos
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11-30-2018, 08:01 PMAniond
From my understand all it does it unmark your MSQ completed. Therefore letting you rerun the story. The only benefit to this is EXP gained from it. Great way to quickly level alts.
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11-30-2018, 08:14 PMWhanext
please just let 1.x die, thank you.
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11-30-2018, 08:35 PMInochIF they reset the quest as you get exp from it. They never said that i'm certain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aniond
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11-30-2018, 10:50 PMNestama
Wasn't there an interview or something where Yoshi-P pretty much said that 1.0 will never return? Something about it just... no longer existing or something.
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11-30-2018, 11:34 PMLiam_HarperBlizzard stated the exact same thing with Classic WoW though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nestama
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11-30-2018, 11:43 PMInochDifference with Blizzard I believe they using the same engine while SE changed with ARR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam_Harper
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12-01-2018, 01:43 AMalimdia
Yoshida: We literally cannot give you 1.x, we changed engine, we repurposed those servers and even retconned most of that plot.
Players: That's nice and all but can you give us 1.x?
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12-01-2018, 01:59 AMRenato
What I'm hoping is that NG+ enables us to actually play with our friends during some of the story mode trials.
I tried to get my GF into the game and one of the reasons that she couldn't get into it was that we couldn't actually progress together because most of the early parts of the game required her to do a lot of the stoy trials solo. From my understanding this has been a gripe for some new players who come in looking to play with thier friends. -
12-01-2018, 02:00 AMDelilyThis is accurate. The original game was developed in Crystal Tools which is what they used for XIII. This was largely responsible for the high hardware requirements and crappy performance because game engines developed for single player games don't work too well in multiplayer environments. The net code, collision detection, AI, etc. just doesn't work. They ditched it and used a cousin of Luminous Tools (XV's game engine). In order to revive 1.23, which is the version that people want, they'd have to recreate all the game assets in the new engine, which is not a trivial effort, especially because while the zones and enemies are similar, they're not the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inoch
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12-01-2018, 04:12 AMDyvid
1.0 gaming engine, Crystal Tools, is gone and now FFXIV runs using Luminous gaming engine. Having said that, it might be possible to recreate key moments of the game as well as "play" the cut scenes. That would take time and energy away from expansion and patches though... What would you prefer?
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12-01-2018, 06:14 AMIscahHow else are you going to replay the story if they don't reset the quests?Quote:
Originally Posted by Inoch
That's what new game+ always is. Start over from the beginning, all story undone, but retaining your character growth.
I guess the question is whether it's "all or nothing" or whether we can choose what parts to wind back. Can we start from Heavensward? Can we reset job quests and side stories independently of the MSQ? Is there a "revert" option if you're still only halfway through and want to play the new patch that just came out? -
12-01-2018, 12:02 PMNicodemus_Mercy
I'm curious if there will be any sort of reward for going through the entire MSQ via new game+. By reward I mean something purely cosmetic like glam stuff or a mount. If I recall some new game+'s open new dungeons with unique items in older games. Unique dungeons gated by new game+ seems unlikely in FFXIV but unique glams might be cool.
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12-01-2018, 02:19 PMKisaiTenshiThey can't. To quote Yoshi-P in another Q-and-A "We replaced it to make 2.0"Quote:
Originally Posted by Maester_Xenos
However we know they kept the assets somewhere, because the Red Mage promotional material used a 1.0 cutscene location. So the cutscene locations still exist. That means they have the assets for 1.0 somewhere.
But it would be asking them to re-create 1.0 inside 2.0, and I think trying to recreate all of it is probably too much of a task. I think a small part of it is necessary (mainly the Ul'dah scenario as it ties directly into plot points in 2.0) But re-creating Limsa Lominsa or Gridania's 1.0 scenario doesn't add anything to 2.0. But it would require re-creating locations that don't exist anymore.
So what they could do, is what they did with the Ul'dah callback event, instance pieces of the 1.0 MSQ, without having to recreate the entire quest chain. Like the entire 1.0 opening that introduced Thancred and F'lhaminn is entirely relevant, and they could re-create it in the game engine if they were so inclined.