As it stands, this client is garbage and is unusable. It causes frequent kernel panics on all supported version and if that was not enough, the low fps, stuttering and graphical bugs render this unusable anyways.
It costs hella bucks to buy something that is just the windows game emulated poorely by free software that that is scummy and just not fair at all, charging money at all for different operating systems is highly immoral and wrong especially when the port in question barely works.
Even on high end machines the port is not playable since SB, so SE needs to offer us refunds (again) or create a proper port.
MacOS client - give us refunds OR a proper port.
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11-01-2018, 06:54 AMmisterbonesMacOS client - give us refunds OR a proper port.
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11-01-2018, 06:55 AMmisterbones
It used to be JUST kernel panics which was bad enough but now we cannot even have steady fps and there is extreme stuttering.
And a GAME causing an entire computer to lock up and crash?? this isn't the 90s, come on. -
11-01-2018, 09:49 AMRandom0
Post your machine specs please. Sounds like something else is going on.
I'm running on a 2013 iMac and aside from running hot (iStat Menus to gain manual control of fans to counter this) I rarely have the issues you seem to be having. -
11-01-2018, 10:45 AMValkyrie_Lenneth
only iMACs are officially supported, so if you are on a macbook of any kind, you are playing on unsupported hardware, and you ignored the official minimum spec reqs. That's not SE's fault.
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11-01-2018, 12:38 PMMsQinope. iMac is not a system spec. They list a Mac Book anyway. They list models because Macs are not highly configurable. If you have Mac OS Sierra, enough disc space, 8GB memory and compatible graphics there is no reason it shouldn't run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
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11-01-2018, 12:49 PMValkyrie_LennethStraight off their website. Only one Macbook is listed, and there used to be 0 macbooks. Its changed since the last time I looked.Quote:
Originally Posted by MsQi
OS: macOS Sierra 10.12.4
Applicable Models:
MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2016) | Radeon Pro 450 | 1600x900, Standard (Mac)
iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015) | AMD Radeon R9 M395 | 1600x900、High(Mac)
iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015) | AMD Radeon R9 M390 | 1600x900、High(Mac)
iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014) | AMD Radeon R9 M290 | 1600x900、High(Mac)
iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014) | AMD Radeon R9 M295X | 1600x900、High(Mac)
iMac (27-inch, Late 2013) | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 775M | 1600x900、Middle(Mac)
iMac (27-inch, Late 2013) | NVIDIA GeForce GT 755M | 1600x900、Middle(Mac)
iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2013) | NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M | 1600x900、Middle(Mac)
iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2013) | Intel Iris Pro | 1600x900、Standard(Mac)
Recommended Screen Resolution: 1600x900 (Note: Running at a resolution above 1920 x 1080/1920 x 1200 will result in lowered performance) -
11-01-2018, 12:57 PMRandom0
Generally speaking, Apple laptops and desktops from late-2013 onwards with discrete graphics cards (Intel Iris Pro = nope) should be able to run the current Mac client with little issue, barring the occasional incompatibility with a web driver that usually gets patched up by the graphics card vendor within a few days of release.
Granted, it'll run BETTER on the same hardware when in Bootcamp and running natively on Windows OS.
Anyway, we'll see what SE's plans are for the Mac client going forward soon enough, given it's still a 32-bit app and Apple is dropping 32-bit support next year. If they were planning on making any major fixes to the client, now would be the time for their teams to be working on it.
Edit : Hot damn, someone actually got it running well enough on a late-2013 21.5 iMac with an IIP to include it on the applicable model list? I'd love to see how it actually runs. They must have added it around when they dropped support for El Capitan. -
11-01-2018, 03:51 PMMsQiAnd you failed to refute what I said in any way, shape or form. In fact you supported it. iMac is not a system spec. It is a line of computers going back to the 90s.Quote:
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PC users deal with machine as a collection of parts. Mac users for the most part deal with fixed models. It says applicable, not supported. -
11-01-2018, 04:09 PMMsQiI have a mid 2015 Mac Book Pro, 16 GB which has AMD Radeon R9 M370X and Intel Iris Pro. game runs ok, but it could use work. The performance is comparable to less powerful "PCs"Quote:
Originally Posted by Random0
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11-01-2018, 06:03 PMTimeraiderGaranyiAll Valkyrie is saying that if youre having issues with anything that isnt in that list, you cant say SE didnt warn you :PQuote:
Originally Posted by MsQi
As you said.. mac is alot more absolute so unlike PC.. they actually can say "your specific device isnt in this list, thus if its not working its not our problem" regardless on how many non-listed devices it would work fine -
11-01-2018, 10:53 PMKisaiTenshiTechnically the iGPU can run the game, it just won't run it at any level worth playing, which is why the MacMini and Macbook Pro/MacBook Air tends to not meet the requirements. Once you consider the cooling requirements of running a laptop maxed out, you'd quickly realize why you shouldn't use a MacBook Pro (or any other "thin+light" ultrabook style laptop), it will melt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random0
Gaming laptops still need a switchable nVidia/AMD GPU to run, and that's why only iMac's with those are considered playable, even though the performance of most of them aren't at a level that is considered playable. (eg 5K iMac, but you have to run it less than fullHD resolution.)
Because the Mac Version is just a wrapper around the PC version, that adds an overhead that doesn't exist in the PC version, and iGPU parts are just not going to cut it.