Change the tooltip for MNK Tornado Kick!!!

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10-19-2018, 10:59 PM
Kitfox

Change the tooltip for MNK Tornado Kick!!!

It's very confusing for new players that the tooltip says Tornado Kick hits for 330 potency when it actually hits for 440 potency!!! A poor newbie might think the kick is bad when it's actually good! This terrible ordeal should be fixed ASAP.

Or maybe it's actually meant to hit for 330 potency but it's bugged and thus hits too hard? Maybe this is why SAM was too weak compared to MNK all these months!!!
10-20-2018, 12:09 AM
HyperiusUltima

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Originally Posted by Kitfox

It's very confusing for new players that the tooltip says Tornado Kick hits for 330 potency when it actually hits for 440 potency!!! A poor newbie might think the kick is bad when it's actually good! This terrible ordeal should be fixed ASAP.

Or maybe it's actually meant to hit for 330 potency but it's bugged and thus hits too hard? Maybe this is why SAM was too weak compared to MNK all these months!!!

This is because it’s typically BUFFED by Grease Lightning. The tooltip is the base value.
10-20-2018, 12:11 AM
Jonnycbad

Same goes for BLM's fire spells, which are all buffed by Astral Fire. They are quite a bit stronger than one would think.
10-20-2018, 12:59 AM
Duskane

you know this isn't helping your Machinist cause
the huge DRK thread at least got multiple replies before one of the devs came in and said something
maybe stick to one thread before you butt into others or make threads like this as some kind of point
its just becoming obnoxious borderline embarrassing
10-20-2018, 01:04 AM
Kitfox

Maybe I just care about game balance? I mean I could be wrong but here's my testing: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...in-the-tooltip
The 440 number was from someone else's test. Mine seems to point towards 430. Both of which are not 330.

I'm just trying to channel my rage into something useful right now and be productive, to be honest.
10-20-2018, 03:37 AM
HyperiusUltima

To be frank, your fit of rage isn’t doing any favors. Greased Lightning’s Tooltip explains where the damage increase comes from, and it effects MNK’s damage as a whole. Tornado Kick’s tooltip tells you the base potency, so if you really want to go math it out, take the percentage of GL3 buff and factor it into Tornado Kick’s potency.
10-20-2018, 03:44 AM
Kitfox

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Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

...if you really want to go math it out, take the percentage of GL3 buff and factor it into Tornado Kick’s potency.

I did? I compared 100 potency attacks with GL3 and Tornado Kick with GL3, both with the same buffs (Twin Snakes and Dragon Kick). The numbers don't match. It's all in my bug report.
10-20-2018, 04:48 AM
Valence

Funny to see some players being dead set that the Tornado Kick tooltip is correct when what happens ingame totally proves otherwise. You should try it by yourselves, it's not really hard math or anything. You will see it hit consistently way harder than the potency it's advertised for.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

you know this isn't helping your Machinist cause
the huge DRK thread at least got multiple replies before one of the devs came in and said something
maybe stick to one thread before you butt into others or make threads like this as some kind of point
its just becoming obnoxious borderline embarrassing

Sorry, we're that desperate.
10-20-2018, 02:45 PM
Kabooa

Huh, weird.
10-20-2018, 07:00 PM
Zerathor

Idk, is there something buffing abilities but not weapon skills?
10-20-2018, 09:27 PM
Bourne_Endeavor

Making troll topics just means community reps are even less likely to relay any further posts to the devs. Having worked as a forum mod, I can tell you from personal experience, you just end up being treated as something they laugh at. I get it. You're desperate for MCH buffs. The job definitely needs help. But this won't accomplish what you're aiming for.
10-20-2018, 09:35 PM
Duskane

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

what you're aiming for.

haha
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10-21-2018, 01:37 AM
Kitfox

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Making troll topics

This is not a troll topic. If it is, then the BRD tooltip thread is also a troll topic. The MCH threads are not troll topics either, most of them contain key feedback about the current design, pointing out problems and coming up with solutions. This is the actual bug report about Tornado Kick, by the way. Even if my posts are coming across salty, and I believe I have the right to be, I'm talking about real issues in each and every post.
10-21-2018, 09:21 AM
Kabooa

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Originally Posted by Zerathor

Idk, is there something buffing abilities but not weapon skills?

I tested the other abilities to see if perhaps Skillspeed had a hidden modifier to them, much like the potency increase on auto attacks.

It's only Tornado Kick. Tackle, Elixir Field, Howling Fist, etc, all behave within the expected range, but Tornado Kick doesn't.

That said, it really only warrants two words on it.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Huh, weird.