legendary items?

Will we ever see hidden treasures throughout the game? Or rare monsters that drop gear? not including FATES.

Any legendary weapons or improved customization of skills?

Just been speculating about the things this game could use... or not? I dunno, whats everyone else's opinion?

The gear spiral rotates too fast for rare drops. Even the relic grind is barely worth the effort because the weapon is outdatet too fast. So every legendary stuff wich is added now is outdatet next month. Also running around like a headless chicken in the hope to find a rare enemy (before anyone else) isn't exactly what I consider fun content.

For hidden treasures we have the treasure maps. They only drop crafting mats and glamour stuff, wich keeps them relevant. But that's not the direction you are talking about, huh?

They could add rare enemys into dungeons. And special materia as a rare drop is something wich could stay relevant throughout a whole expansion. But when it is too good people may get excluded from raid partys when they don't have them. Yoshi wants to keep the raids accessible for people with not so much time for grinding and stuff.

Any hidden treasure chest wouldn't be hidden after day 1, people would map them out and figure out their cooldown, or if random cooldown they would camp them and then there's nothing for you to find by exploring. All that stuff worked better in older MMOs because guides weren't as widespread as they are now.

Tint covered the issue of anything legendary, vertical progression would make them moot. Horizontal skill progression has been asked before, but their answer is that they don't want to make it too difficult for the mythical new player that has never played a MMO before.

Thanks so much for the feedback, your replies make a lot of sense now that I think about it. Special materia would be a nice addition... basically I just want to feel unique. I guess? Maybe the way I’m phrasing it is wrong but I hope you know what I’m getting at. :-)

I'd love some optional horizontal progression, but I don't think it's going to work in this game unless they make some bold changes. Gear progression is a hamster wheel in ffxiv. As soon as something new comes out everything before it is instantly trash unless it looks cool and can be used for glamour.

It'd be nice to have some unique stuff, bit of horizontal progression.

They could always do it with accessories maybe? Shift some stuff around, adjust some costs, and make the left side gear the constant vertical prog we're all used to.
The right side meanwhile becomes horizontal progression, accessories with special bonuses hidden in the canals, at the top of HoH, from hunt mobs, etc. as well as the more standard stuff from dungeons, primals, raids etc.

No lol , keep special bonuses out that game... glam is fine.

You mean talents on gear / weapons that alter or change what your skills or spells do?

Pretty sure the 90's server hardware and spaghetti code won't really allow such deep customization. And even if it were possible the developers are not really that good at job balancing here if you add that talents on gear it will become even more of a disaster.

I do love such things in games but I don't want it in this game. Unless they can fix job balancing. Oh and upgrade server and fix the spaghetti code (meaning scrape it and start from zero).

Until we have horizontal progression properly in this game or some kind of tree type system I doubt that will ever be a thing. Even then it's hard to implement such a tree type system with out content to back it up and right now the content allows for the meta to be heavy pushed upon so even if they made a tree, the meta would likely get pushed to a point where everyone would have the same build regardless which leads to discrimination, etc etc. Not saying those things will happen but that is a can of worms that has to be addressed should they decide to go down that path.

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Originally Posted by Anthonywb

Will we ever see hidden treasures throughout the game? Or rare monsters that drop gear? not including FATES.

Any legendary weapons or improved customization of skills?

Just been speculating about the things this game could use... or not? I dunno, whats everyone else's opinion?

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Everything you just mentioned has been used in Relic weapons.

I feel like "rare monsters that drop gear" is already covered, with things like Odin and Ixion. It's glamour rather than equipment, but that's what lasts in this game.

Even then, the system only works well for as long as they're current. Drumming up enough participants for the Couerlregina boss in Dravania is hard, on the rare occasion that the FATE is even on - and in a year of playing (and taking three characters through ARR) I have never ever seen or heard of the Behemoth spawning in Coerthas.

I do get somewhat what this post is asking, but at the same time, FFXIV is a game that has deliberately eschewed rare/unique/rng (to an extent, I'll explain what I mean.)

Many MMOs have that "rare" element to them - treasure chests, rare material nodes, unique bosses that drop unique items, rare quest starter drops, minion drops, etc. While I haven't been back to WoW in a thousand years, I remember farming for my firefly minion, I remember having to farm mobs in Outlands to get engineering schematics. In LotRO, humanoid mobs of a certain level+ had a chance of dropping legendary weapons, rep items, etc. And, to an extent, I kind of miss that. I enjoyed the thrill of exploring knowing that I might be at the right place at the right time to find a treasure chest or an enemy. I might be going about my everyday questing and get a minion drop I didn't expect.

Unfortunately, that's a dying enjoyment on several levels. One - as was mentioned elsewhere - botting. It's always been a "thing" but it's a lot more prevalent now than it used to be. I used to be able to do laps of Azshara to get treasure chests & rare mining nodes - those would be dominated by bots now, they are in SWtOR already. The same people who use hunt-spawn-alert mods would use them for other rare monsters, too - and when only one person has a chance to get the item why would they share? Two - griefing. It was already a thing in WoW. Sticks and stones may break my bones but it's also tiring to be /spit emoted at, or harassed via tells, because you got to a node before somebody else, or a treasure chest, or an enemy.

XIV doesn't always handle this stuff in the best manner (lord, look at the bots), but in their effort to make the game more "equal," they had to drop a lot of this. Sure, gathering bots are annoying, but they're not stealing your nodes, and locking you out of crafting items you need. (The marketboard is a different subject.) Hunts, rare fates like Ixion, Odin, and Behemoth, Foxy Lady give rewards to anybody who participates, it's not a case of "tag it first and get the rare drop". There are no rare drops, so if you participate, you'll have the ability to get anything you need. Sure, there's still RNG - that pair of gloves you want might not drop for 50 runs - but it's not RNG of the exploration/rare type. They have brought it back at a minor level with the cold lockboxes in Pagos and the sacks in PotD/HoH, but even that affects a very few things, and everyone has the chance to farm for them.

In a way, I miss it. I miss farming for rare drops, fishing for lockboxes, etc. But on the other hand, I don't have the kind of time I used to have, and I enjoy being able to get most of what I want in this game just by putting my time in. I enjoy being able to go out and gather timed nodes without getting griefed. And I do kind of hope that won't change in XIV.

honestly imo if you want that kind of thing just play a single player rpg to get your rare item/special snowflake fix.

I do actually miss the NM's of FFXI. i killed many of them even without seriously camping. it just meant i'd go afk in valkurm dunes instead of jeuno in the hope that i might glance a emporer pop or ssg for a chance to find the joyeusse nm (forget its name) sorta thing. got lots of good stuff from them and in many cases there were other versions of the same drops you could obtain from bcnms or buy on the auction house..
i also miss NMS and things like the fomor codex , sorboro, bee stinger, gration or other stuff where you use a random drop from certain mobs at a specific location to spawn a particular boss NM. added things to do out in the world. not locked up in instances.

I think the problem these days is people complain if they're excluded from anything.. you can see it with hunts and things in the game now. how people kick off when a hunt is pulled and killed before they could get there "omg sooo toxic why couldn't you wait...." hell there's times people give me flack for killing a b rank for my weekly bill and not telling anyone else where it was....

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Thanks so much for the feedback, your replies make a lot of sense now that I think about it. Special materia would be a nice addition... basically I just want to feel unique. I guess? Maybe the way I’m phrasing it is wrong but I hope you know what I’m getting at. :-)

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If you don't mind things that only grant bonuses in specific areas or only have glamour value, then we have a few super rare things now in eureka pagos.
Cassie Earrings, Optical Hat, Speed Belt, Behemoth Pelt (exchange for helm), Copycat Bulb minion, shiver emote. These things are so rare that they don't exist for the majority of players. Can't guarantee that they won't eventually become commonly accessible items in some way.

Towards the end of Heavensward patch series they did actually experiment with making a rare drop weapon with the highest potential of any weapon in the game, at least until new stuff was released in the SB expansion. They were called Coven weapons and very few people were lucky enough to obtain them.
Now that people stopped playing The Diadem, there is not even a chance of getting them any more because a large amount of players are needed to beat the enemies, but the drops are weak now anyway and do not have unique appearances so there's no glamor value.

I prefer they add Eureka Ultimate or Pagos Ultima!

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Originally Posted by Anthonywb

Will we ever see hidden treasures throughout the game? Or rare monsters that drop gear? not including FATES.

Any legendary weapons or improved customization of skills?

Just been speculating about the things this game could use... or not? I dunno, whats everyone else's opinion?

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If your thinking like we had in FFXI with rare drops etc.? I doubt that will ever happen. The only way it would happen is if once you get the drop that it's stats increase with every update to keep it up to par always. That is an option but I doubt they will do it.