Adding Gil Tips To Players

I think this game should have a tip (gratuity) system. To use it you would type "/tip amount" with a player selected. So to tip 500 gil you would select them and type "/tip 500" I think this would be great way to reward the players who work hard to get new gear and special emotes that look amazing. This could also be fore Bards performing, people dancing, or using entertaining abilities. This would benefit players who even spend their hard earned dollars on RMT gear from the Mog Station. I see a lot of players just standing around Limsa showing off their outfits. I think they should be rewarded for looking good and I think this would be a great way to do it.

I also think this would help SE sell more gear off the mog station for players looking to increase the tips they get

Edit: I'm suggesting this system because a lot of these people are AFK while they're posing or performing. So, you can't have them accept a trade. I appreciate the work they put into their appearance and if this is how they like to spend their sub time, I think they deserve some appreciation and reward.

Also, it's just rude to interrupt a bard with a trade window this is my suggestion for an alternative option

To deal with RMT there could be a limit around 5-10k and a 1 hour wait time before you could tip a player a second time. Trying to tip a player twice would give you the message "You've already tipped this player"

If it's not for you there would be an option to turn off receiving tips

If you want to give people money just give them money

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Originally Posted by Xibri

Yes, however, a lot of these people are AFK while they're posing or performing so, you can't have them accept a trade. I appreciate the work they put into their appearance and if this is how they like to spend their sub time I think they deserve some appreciation and reward.

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If there's going to be a way to give or receive stuff without a confirmation window, then I would really prefer a way to turn that option off.

I like to make it rain as much as the next person but something like this can easily be taken the wrong way, or 'trigger' the players judging by the track record of the playerbase

Given how useless gil is in this game (500 gil? Thats not even covering ONE teleport fee), I think the much better reward you can give someone who you think has a cool glamour/mount/pet/emote/character in general is to hit /tell and give them a compliment (try not to be creepy, please... dont say anything to a female character you wouldnt say to a male, as rule of thumb).
Hearing "Hey, cool outfit!" or "Thats a really cute pet!" or "I really like the way your character looks" is probably a lot more worth than a pity amount of gil to be honest.

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Originally Posted by DevonEllwood

If you want to give people money just give them money

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Yes, however, a lot of these people are AFK while they're posing or performing so, you can't have them accept a trade. I appreciate the work they put into their appearance and if this is how they like to spend their sub time I think they deserve some appreciation and reward.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

Given how useless gil is in this game (500 gil? Thats not even covering ONE teleport fee), I think the much better reward you can give someone who you think has a cool glamour/mount/pet/emote/character in general is to hit /tell and give them a compliment (try not to be creepy, please... dont say anything to a female character you wouldnt say to a male, as rule of thumb).
Hearing "Hey, cool outfit!" or "Thats a really cute pet!" or "I really like the way your character looks" is probably a lot more worth than a pity amount of gil to be honest.

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Well you would be able to tip way more than 500 if you wanted that was just a random number i picked for an example

I accept donations 24/7 via the trade window, provided I'm not AFK.

Eh I think just trading is fine. Someone should be able to decide if they accept the gil or not. If someone afks and misses out on free gil, too bad for them I guess?

The point of getting good glams/pets/mounts etc should be...those things, not the ability to stand around town and hope strangers toss them money.

Personally I'd think sending a tell is a better way to go about it. I always appreciate it when people just send something nice and simple like "Love your outfit!".

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

Eh I think just trading is fine. Someone should be able to decide if they accept the gil or not. If someone afks and misses out on free gil, too bad for them I guess?

The point of getting good glams/pets/mounts etc should be...those things, not the ability to stand around town and hope strangers toss them money.

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I've played other MMO's with a tip system for players who play music, dance, give buffs, or just look attractive or just plain impressive. It was really well received by the community. I think where the occasional player may try to open a trade window to give a tip, I think that's too much of a hassle and the player has to be paying attention which most of the people posing or performing are not doing or they're so caught up in the RP opening a trade window would be a hassle. A tip system makes it quick and easy you just type the macro and it's done no trade request, no need to bother the player. Also a lot of players may be uncomfortable giving a compliment but a small tip shows your support and you don't have to risk sounding like a creep

I'd prefer that they just allow you to send mail to anyone you like, regardless if they are on your friendlist on not. With that option, you could drop a little gift (gil or item) along with a nice message to the person in question.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

I'd prefer that they just allow you to send mail to anyone you like, regardless if they are on your friendlist on not. With that option, you could drop a little gift (gil or item) along with a nice message to the person in question.

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that could work

The mail system reminds me of just how backwater FFXIV is sometimes. >=(

I feel like Square-Enix would somehow screw up the tip system, or make it worse. After the duty recorder, Eureka, the glamour toilet, and the companion app--I've lost a lot of trust in Square-Enix's ability to impliment useful features without making them worse. It's why I joke that they'll add viera and new races, but then only a single gender. They'll botch it somewhow!

I'd like a tip system, but it'd have to not bog down the player performing, nor have an excessive amount of gil, or else RMT could take advantage of it. Or you could dump say 50mil on a random player and then report them for buying gil, lol...

I think being able to instantly drop tips to people would be awesome! Here on Balmung we have alot of performances and shows and it would be great if we could, as an audience, make it rain without interrupting the performer. They can just side eye their gil and watch it increase for a job well done.


These events are big, no one wants to waste time with trade windows for 50+ tips coming in and frankly it's sort of considered rude to initiate trade in the middle of a busy gathering where the chat log is almost too busy to keep up with as it is.

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Originally Posted by JackHatchet

The mail system reminds me of just how backwater FFXIV is sometimes. >=(

I feel like Square-Enix would somehow screw up the tip system, or make it worse. After the duty recorder, Eureka, the glamour toilet, and the companion app--I've lost a lot of trust in Square-Enix's ability to impliment useful features without making them worse. It's why I joke that they'll add viera and new races, but then only a single gender. They'll botch it somewhow!

I'd like a tip system, but it'd have to not bog down the player performing, nor have an excessive amount of gil, or else RMT could take advantage of it. Or you could dump say 50mil on a random player and then report them for buying gil, lol...

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Yeah I can see how that would be a problem we would just have to put a limit on it, say 5-10k would probably be good

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Originally Posted by Bahati

I think being able to instantly drop tips to people would be awesome! Here on Balmung we have alot of performances and shows and it would be great if we could, as an audience, make it rain without interrupting the performer. They can just side eye their gil and watch it increase for a job well done.


These events are big, no one wants to waste time with trade windows for 50+ tips coming in and frankly it's sort of considered rude to initiate trade in the middle of a busy gathering where the chat log is almost too busy to keep up with as it is.

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My thoughts exactly

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Originally Posted by DevonEllwood

If you want to give people money just give them money



If there's going to be a way to give or receive stuff without a confirmation window, then I would really prefer a way to turn that option off.

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What issue could you have with receiving gil, I get items, but why wouldn't you want more gil

Off the top of my head here, but I suppose that I would not like if some stranger gave me a bit of gil suddenly, possibly messaged me to let me know that they did so and then proceeded to just stand there awaiting acknowledgement or conversation since - while it might be well-intended - it would make me feel shy and a bit uncomfortable since I am not great with making small talk with complete strangers and I always feel guilty trotting away too soon in case it comes across as rude. That'd be worse had they just given me money.

Put simply, I wouldn't want to be involuntarily indebted to someone. If they walked up to me and opened a trade window with me for any amount of gil, I would refuse - a forced tip isn't very different.


Having said that, we DO have a lot of Performers on Balmung like that other poster mentioned, and I'd love to give them tips as it makes the world feel all the more lively and I really appreciate having that atmosphere.

I think a better system is to bring back the request Melding/Repair from 1.0. Kinda works as a "Tip" You get Gil as reward for helping them. Works if that player is AFK aswell. Gil gets varied on how many repairs are needed or how many materias.

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Originally Posted by Xibri

What issue could you have with receiving gil, I get items, but why wouldn't you want more gil

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I often refuse to accept when someone offers me gil for something I did for them. I have more gil than I'll probably ever need unless they make some major changes to the game. You keep it.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

I often refuse to accept when someone offers me gil for something I did for them. I have more gil than I'll probably ever need unless they make some major changes to the game. You keep it.

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Originally Posted by Knahli

Put simply, I wouldn't want to be involuntarily indebted to someone. If they walked up to me and opened a trade window with me for any amount of gil, I would refuse - a forced tip isn't very different.

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well if it's not for you there could always be a refuse tips option

And just realized that this would create plausible deniability for gil buyers. Not that I think SE does anything about them, but, you know. Still.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

And just realized that this would create plausible deniability for gil buyers. Not that I think SE does anything about them, but, you know. Still.

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Which is why i said earlier that there could be a cap probably around 5-10k

I feel like they need to enforce gil transactions more heavily.

Namely, new accounts should not be allowed to transfer large sums of gil because that's partly how the majority of RMTers are abusing the system. Their process is conducted strictly with expendable accounts because they know how easily they can get purged once they get found out .

If you want to look good and get tips, just refer to my guide:

https://i.imgur.com/0Bgfxgg.png

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

I accept donations 24/7 via the trade window, provided I'm not AFK.

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The main problem with this is trading with a bard interrupts their performance which is kind of rude

This game has a enough problems with RMT. Don't need them exploiting a hypoethetical tip system.

Just like my money is precious irl, my money is precious in this game and i won't part with it. Nuff said.

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

This game has a enough problems with RMT. Don't need them exploiting a hypoethetical tip system.

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how could they possibly exploit a system that lets you give at most 10k gold.

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Originally Posted by Xibri

how could they possibly exploit a system that lets you give at most 10k gold.

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Playing devil's advocate, you mentioned using a text command to do it.

All you would need to do is do the text command once, then use the previous command function (up on the D-Pad on controller, no idea what it is keyboard) to quickly spam it over and over again. When you're capable of doing the command 2-4x a second, 10k adds up ULTRA fast. An RMT bot could feasibly automate the tips to transfer millions upon tens of millions within minutes.

Not saying your idea is bad, simply pointing out a flaw that would need protective measures built in. Even the slightest opening of an inch can give RMT and abusers a mile.

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Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir

Playing devil's advocate, you mentioned using a text command to do it.

All you would need to do is do the text command once, then use the previous command function (up on the D-Pad on controller, no idea what it is keyboard) to quickly spam it over and over again. When you're capable of doing the command 2-4x a second, 10k adds up ULTRA fast. An RMT bot could feasibly automate the tips to transfer millions upon tens of millions within minutes.

Not saying your idea is bad, simply pointing out a flaw that would need protective measures built in. Even the slightest opening of an inch can give RMT and abusers a mile.

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well yeah to enforce a 10k limit like i suggested there would be an amount of time before you can tip them again. After sending a tip, sending a second one will give you the message "you've already tipped this player" an hour or so later you could do it again

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

I'd prefer that they just allow you to send mail to anyone you like, regardless if they are on your friendlist on not. With that option, you could drop a little gift (gil or item) along with a nice message to the person in question.

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Yea but the problem with that is RMT will spam anyone and everyone who logs in with mail. It's bad enough that they spam the RMT shouts in the starting cities.

They could always give us an organ grinder opo-opo minion. He can hold out a little tin cup and players can trade him money.