Pagos 4.4.1 update - Thank you!

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10-04-2018, 11:33 AM
Thmas

Pagos 4.4.1 update - Thank you!

So I just want to say thank you for the change to light gathering. There is something very psychologically important about actually being able to see the bar change when you have received "light". While still a grind - it is now one that I can measure and see (and enjoy).

That being said - now I can see what I only suspected. That Bard support methods actually hurt bard light gain. I was fortunate enough to get in with a very good group of all lvl35s. After many chains of 30 between the two dragons, and then many more in the forge, the evidence suggests that if I use all my party buffs - it increases their chances of getting "gentle" or even a brilliant light (once) - but in doing so I pretty much guarantee I won't get any light.

For example - every time I used Foe's Requiem on the dragon in the forge I received no light at all on the any of the 5 chains. If I avoided playing any party buffs then my DPS damage was enough to always get me at least some noticeable feeble light.

This makes me a little sad - because being a party support member is a big part of why I love playing Bard, but also happy that once I have all the light I need for my weapon, I know I'll be able to help others get their light quicker.

Thanks again for fixing the light amounts to something reasonable.
Best Regards,

Th'mas
10-04-2018, 12:34 PM
ximxim

Glad you enjoy the light buff. Now grind and pop that Louhi to get 5 Ice for your shiny weapon... Good luck.
10-05-2018, 03:34 AM
Ryaz

I still can't bring myself to get past level 23 in Pagos. ;_;
10-05-2018, 04:39 AM
Bright-Flower

Of course they did this after I stayed up late grinding out the last of my light the night before the patch. If I'd known this was coming I would have waited to grind all those dragons. Ah well.
10-05-2018, 05:07 AM
Claviusnex

Too late. I've already quit and have no intention of returning.
10-05-2018, 05:28 AM
AxlStream

Still am level 22, still not interested in the garbage that is Pagos.
10-05-2018, 05:45 AM
Anarnee

yeah, the buff encouraged me to go ahead and finish my relic yesterday. Got enough light and popped Louhi twice to get my remaining ice.
10-05-2018, 07:11 AM
Berteaux_Braumegain

Getting all of the Anemos weapons wasn't fun, but it was tolerable.

Getting one Pagos weapon was so terrible that I can't see myself going back in there for anything short of a free Copycat Bulb and Cassie Earring.
10-05-2018, 07:12 AM
Ilan

Too little, too late.
10-05-2018, 09:10 AM
Arya_Leviathan

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Originally Posted by Thmas

That being said - now I can see what I only suspected. That Bard support methods actually hurt bard light gain. I was fortunate enough to get in with a very good group of all lvl35s. After many chains of 30 between the two dragons, and then many more in the forge, the evidence suggests that if I use all my party buffs - it increases their chances of getting "gentle" or even a brilliant light (once) - but in doing so I pretty much guarantee I won't get any light.

For example - every time I used Foe's Requiem on the dragon in the forge I received no light at all on the any of the 5 chains. If I avoided playing any party buffs then my DPS damage was enough to always get me at least some noticeable feeble light.

Th'mas

I've gotten feeble light before, and always utilized my abilities like minne, palisade, and troubadour during forge farming and killing dragon for chain 5. I did however never gotten anything above feeble light, and I've never gotten a light proc on my 30th chains while most of my party members get gentle. But to be honest, this is probably just bad rng for us both, and doesn't have to do anything with us using bard support abilities. But hey with SE being so cryptic about how pagos works we'll never know.
10-05-2018, 09:26 AM
Duskane

it is a big difference making crystals harder to get if you are making more then one (like me 1/7 ;-; )
but 5 crystals (almost 6) with in 90 minutes that's really good and i didn't go to any fates just farmed dragons
10-05-2018, 06:00 PM
Krojack

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Originally Posted by Ryaz

I still can't bring myself to get past level 23 in Pagos. ;_;

I mean, the exp boost a while back was massive. Something like 300% increase from fates. When I saw that my jaw hit the floor.
10-05-2018, 06:40 PM
LastFireAce

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Originally Posted by Krojack

I mean, the exp boost a while back was massive. Something like 300% increase from fates. When I saw that my jaw hit the floor.

Fate farming is ridiculous while traveling North and South... maps horrible traveling place for low level...
10-05-2018, 07:04 PM
Mirch

amen! best update ever!
10-06-2018, 12:21 AM
Bright-Flower

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Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain

Getting all of the Anemos weapons wasn't fun, but it was tolerable.

Getting one Pagos weapon was so terrible that I can't see myself going back in there for anything short of a free Copycat Bulb and Cassie Earring.

Pretty much how I feel, I know it's nerfed but I doubt I'll ever bother to level alt characters or grind other relics on my main in Pagos even with these changes, though it does sound like they help.
10-06-2018, 01:37 AM
ManuelBravo

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Originally Posted by LastFireAce

Fate farming is ridiculous while traveling North and South... maps horrible traveling place for low level...

Kind of why it's recommended to have low level pop low fates and high level higher fates as they level up they can move faster -.- and use teles. Eureka 101 or they can learn how mobs work. Most are blind some need to walk instead of run to avoid.
10-06-2018, 02:29 AM
Krojack

The system is still dead. I've gone in 2 times now since the buff and there not be over 10 people in there. I've waited 30+ minutes and never got more people.

Horrible system to get relic weapons. A system that is in an instance and very hard it not impossible to solo.
10-06-2018, 02:37 AM
LaylaTsarra

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Originally Posted by Krojack

The system is still dead. I've gone in 2 times now since the buff and there not be over 10 people in there. I've waited 30+ minutes and never got more people.

Horrible system to get relic weapons. A system that is in an instance and very hard it not impossible to solo.

That's odd given in my area they're been packed with people coming back as well as new people trying it for the first time.
10-06-2018, 04:28 AM
LauraAdalena

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

Of course they did this after I stayed up late grinding out the last of my light the night before the patch. If I'd known this was coming I would have waited to grind all those dragons. Ah well.

Except. You probably could given the backlash agains the content and that only like 10% of the people were playing it. At the same time, I could say the same for the 20/20/20/20 (Unidentified) Step and the Atma step that "I could have waited."
10-06-2018, 04:32 AM
Bright-Flower

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Originally Posted by LauraAdalena

Except. You probably could given the backlash agains the content and that only like 10% of the people were playing it. At the same time, I could say the same for the 20/20/20/20 (Unidentified) Step and the Atma step that "I could have waited."

I don't keep track of what % of people do stuff nor did I have a hint that they were planning to nerf it. I figured they WOULD nerf it but I didn't expect them to until Pyros released.

It's not a big deal it was just kind of funny/frustrating that I farmed a lot of light that weekend to finish up, culimating in staying up late Monday to get my final crystals, and then the next day it was nerfed significantly. Just makes me want to do a homer simpson 'doh.'
10-06-2018, 07:15 AM
CrystalRainbow

Changes where not enough to interest me in the content. And I had a lot of fun socializing in the 1st zone.
10-06-2018, 07:21 AM
Ramesses

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Originally Posted by Claviusnex

Too late. I've already quit and have no intention of returning.

Sadly, this is my current sentiment in the here and now.
10-06-2018, 08:35 AM
Vahlnir

I'll probably keep grinding levels with my challenge log, but it's hard to say how much motivation I'll have by the time I get high enough to join the fate trains. I'm kinda hoping that they'll allow people to work on Pagos weapons through Pyros somehow tbh. Pagos clearly hasn't gone over too well. Anemos wasn't amazing, but it was tolerable. Pagos? It seems like they did everything within their power to make it as miserable as humanly possible. Heck, even trying to travel around Pagos on foot is infinitely worse, and I'm not even talking about the dragons.