Ver. 2.0 Auto Settings Config (easy button please)

I know most of the video settings will be adjustable in game after 2.0, so its not going to be so painful as it is now, but spending the first few hours of the game tweaking settings tends to ruin the immersion. First impressions are everything (even if its the second first impression ie 2.0) It would be nice if after you install the game it runs through some hardware test and sets your options to what it thinks is the best for your system. This puts more emphasis on the game play and lessens the technical buggy/debugging headache.

oh boy you used those three words again.

Not possible. So many people have different hardware configurations there is not 1 good set of config options that will work best for everyone. Welcome to pc gaming.

The game installs with recommended settings (that is your easy button), as you just found out, they don't work well for everyone.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Not possible. So many people have different hardware configurations there is not 1 good set of config options that will work best for everyone. Welcome to pc gaming.

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It's entirely possible? Many games have an auto config button that will pick the "most appropriate" settings for your system to ensure the best possible framerate, but usually it fails miserably and you end up playing with settings anyways... or just dragging everything to max. For instance, Oblivion thought my old PC should run at minimum spec, when it could actually be run at medium.

Well, possible but worthless, result is the same.

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Originally Posted by Dhalmel

oh boy you used those three words again.

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"ruin the immersion"

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! xD

can't tell if serious.

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Originally Posted by Rau

can't tell if serious.

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Can't tell if troll.

A slider bar in-game (hehe, unloving sponge attack) would be nice.

With option templates such as Very Low, Low, Medium, High, Very High, Ultra High, and Custom. You can use one of these as your template and then make modifications. Players can quickly determine whether one of the templates works for them without having to take a screenshot, leave the game, make an adjustment, log in, load back into the game, new screenshot, etc.

Aside from the immersion comment, I think the request is a good one.

Played anothe PC game recently (you know, the one with the arrow and the knee), and liked the fact that it auto-set the settings after analyzing hardware. It allowed to play now, and care about settings later (you're excited to play now when you just buy a game normally ...).

Anything that can enhance new players experience at this point is welcome.

Does it ever ruin your immersion that you're sitting at a desk staring at a little screen? I mean come on dude what are you really trying to get here? FFXIV has a separate config program, use it before you load the game. And I apologize if calling it a game ruined your immersion.

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Originally Posted by Aistaraina

Can't tell if troll.

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stop ruining my fun.

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Originally Posted by Rau

stop ruining my fun.

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Sorry. I know the pain you're going through. I can't play Tera either. Troll away.

>_>
Hehehehehehehe.

I thought PC gaming was all about config settings? Quite often messing with configs is more fun than the game itself no? Take skyrim for a recent example...

Some games even allow you to change settings while the game is running! Isn't that like totally unbelievable? ò.Ó
Sadly ffxiv currently only has two possible configurations: unplayable and omg-it's-gonna-burn-my-gpu
Would be nice if 2.0 had settings that actually have an effect on performance.

Screw Custom Settings, I have Serious Sam!

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/2...2220244756.jpg

This is never easy to do successfully with multi-platform games.

Because it is being released on PS3, it is FORCED to use a lot of CPU rendering. This is why (for instance) a game like skyrim, completely RAPES people in FPS with shadow settings. The CPU renders the shadows, because that's the only option. The PS3 doesnt have enough raw power in its GPU.

I'm sure they'll have a SOMEWHAT default detection based on hardware. But like all games, 90% of the time this is a huge estimate and if you really care about performance and quality you would never actually go by it.

Just know, that CPU will likely be the huge factor in 2.0 more then anything. I'm not sure about now, as I'm confident that they probably could not get the game to perform well on PS3 at all. Some of the settings causing the game to get a 90% performance loss is pretty good evidence of CPU/GPU optimization.

But the immersion excuse is very tedious.

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Because it is being released on PS3, it is FORCED to use a lot of CPU rendering.

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It's a PC game first, let the PS3 use its CPU rendering and the PC can offload more of the work to the GPU.

This is one easy button I think people would be happy with. Configuring graphics settings shouldn't be something you have to do before you can play. Most games these days can detect your hardware and set reasonable defaults, which you can then adjust later if really necessary.

But testing your configurations is the best part!

I feel weird now for enjoying messing up with my settings when having a new game. I cannot start a game without going to the "Option/Settings" menu first and changing everything :o

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Not possible. So many people have different hardware configurations there is not 1 good set of config options that will work best for everyone. Welcome to pc gaming.

The game installs with recommended settings (that is your easy button), as you just found out, they don't work well for everyone.

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Almost all PC games now have an auto calibration button.

It's pretty easy to measure the systems FLOPS and amount of memory and calculate the best settings.

Look at Tera for example which has both an auto calibration button and different settings 1-6 from low to maximum settings.

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This is never easy to do successfully with multi-platform games.

Because it is being released on PS3, it is FORCED to use a lot of CPU rendering.

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Any developer worth its salt would customise the engine for each platform, limiting the PC game engine based on how a PS3 renders and processes data is asking for trouble.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Almost all PC games now have an auto calibration button.

It's pretty easy to measure the systems FLOPS and amount of memory and calculate the best settings.

Look at Tera for example which has both an auto calibration button and different settings 1-6 from low to maximum settings.



Any developer worth its salt would customise the engine for each platform, limiting the PC game engine based on how a PS3 renders and processes data is asking for trouble.

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Just like the benchmark gave accurate scores, right?

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Just like the benchmark gave accurate scores, right?

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Well its not about accurate, it provides a baseline and then the user can further customise it to get the best results.

Hopefully 2.0 will have in game video settings and not rely on an external config.exe to change them.

The benchmark was nothing more than a cutscene it had no game code running in the background and was pre beta so yea its expected not to be a good representation of the final product.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Well its not about accurate, it provides a baseline and then the user can further customise it to get the best results.

Hopefully 2.0 will have in game video settings and not rely on an external config.exe to change them.

The benchmark was nothing more than a cutscene it had no game code running in the background and was pre beta so yea its expected not to be a good representation of the final product.

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I completely disagree, if you're not getting accurate information to begin with how exactly can you accurately choose settings that would work well?

Of course they could have the config options in-game, most other games do that, but I don't think it would be possible to make an auto-detect system that would work well for everyone. Ultimately you'd just end up having to change things manually anyhow.

wow i had no idea the word immersion would incite so many trolls. note to self thats a loaded word.... noted and will never be used again.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

I completely disagree, if you're not getting accurate information to begin with how exactly can you accurately choose settings that would work well?.

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I dont' really care if you agree with me, its how most games do it.

If I start Sykrim up now I have the option to choose between 4 pre-settings from low to ultra high, just as I do with Tera and numerous other games out there.

As I said before Tera has an auto detect setting aswell which does a pretty good job, you only then need to tweak a few settings.

I'm for this.

To the naysayers: no, a PC can't adjust itself as perfectly as the users. However, it can give you a general idea, and you can work from there. Simply having a starting point is great, especially in a game where you, for some ungodly reason, *can't adjust settings in game*.

So, for 2.0... Easy Button + in-game config, please! One or the other is great, both would be fantastic, and up to industry standards!

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

I completely disagree, if you're not getting accurate information to begin with how exactly can you accurately choose settings that would work well?

Of course they could have the config options in-game, most other games do that, but I don't think it would be possible to make an auto-detect system that would work well for everyone. Ultimately you'd just end up having to change things manually anyhow.

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Come on, even UT99' had that feature and it was working ok and that was 13 years ago... The goal is not to have something that will work 100% of the time, that's just impossible. But if it can properly work for 99% of users then where is the issue?