I usually run everything at 30fps, but latest content starts been taxing for my gpu and latest fights drops my fps to 20 or even lower.
Isn't that we can keep same old pc forever, I know, but not everyone is lucky enough to own a monster rig running 4k 120fps with everything maxed out.
But not complain much, I just got the feeling the upcoming 5.0 will be the time for a good amount of people to ugrade their gaming pc. Start saving now.
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09-23-2018, 05:36 PMLalaRuIncreased graphic intensity
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09-23-2018, 05:47 PMDuskTS
Human eye can't see above 24fps anyway.
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09-23-2018, 07:12 PMVidu
Thats the beauty of a PC though - you dont need to buy a whole new maschine, just changing some parts might be enough!
...but yeah, that can be an expensive surprise aswell - my gpu broke a few years ago, I got a new one for about 300€ and my game has been running fine ever since! -
09-23-2018, 07:18 PMBaingoleth
I bought a geforce 1080 gtx ftw a few days ago and my framerate went from around 25fps in most Stormblood areas to well over 60fps. I noticed the difference immediately.
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09-23-2018, 08:02 PMMicahZerrshia
The best part of PC is you can swap out individual parts and plug in some extra ram. You don't need dedicated gaming equipment if your not a competitive gamer, a lot of standard gear will do the trick.
GPUs are falling in price since the crypto currency crash and since the new 2k series are on the horizon. But the best thing you can do is to take your time and look around. When I built my gaming rig I only bought the pieces when they were on sale, which happens quite frequently. Just keep an eye on local shops and sites like amazon and newegg. I build a rig for $1700 that would have been well over $2500 at normal price.
Just never, and this should go without saying, buy used parts. Esp GPU, as crypto currency miners burn em out en masse then resell them to get some money back.
Another lala spreading falsehoods. This is why we cannot trust the potatoes lolQuote:
Originally Posted by DuskTS
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09-24-2018, 11:33 PMFiniteMatterThis is a myth, the nerves in your eyes fire off much faster than that, upwards of 1/220th of a second. Air force pilots have been tested at that rate. I myself notice a HUGE difference between 40 FPS and 6 FPS. It also depends on the type of screen your looking at, 24 FPS on a movie screen vs 60 FPS on an LED screen are 2 entirely different things.Quote:
Originally Posted by DuskTS
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09-25-2018, 12:57 AMValkyrie_Lenneth
You don't need a monster pc to run this game at 60 fps. I built 2 for friends at 800 each. Even just upgrading your gpu to a gtx 1060, which is like 250 would be a huge improvement.
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09-25-2018, 01:57 AMJojoyaWe do. I just got a new computer so it's running 58-60 FPS regularly. Then one afternoon things started feeling a little weird visually while I was in the yard at my house. I checked and my FPS was bouncing around between 45-48.Quote:
Originally Posted by DuskTS
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09-25-2018, 02:00 AMLumivyoryYou say it like 800 is nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
Not everyone has the same currency and not everyone has this amount of money. If a PC costs more than 300 it's a monster PC to me because it's expensive.
Pretty sure I'm not the only one not able to afford that, OP could also be one of us.
And to OP - I also struggle a lot lately with some FPS drops. And for some reason housing areas are now taking ages to load, I even stopped teleporting to my house much. -
09-25-2018, 03:47 AMJackHatchet
The human eye can see above 24fps. This silly forum troll is going to derail this whole conversation, lol. The probably with gaming at 24 fps isn't that it's 24fps. It's that frames tend to spike. So if you're at 24 and you spike down to 14, or up to 34--you'll notice it. And that whiplash will cause eye fatigue. Where as if you're gaming at 60 fps and drop down to 50 or up to 70--you'll notice it a lot less.
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Having not noticed anything change on my end. I find that it would be weird for Square-Enix to push any graphical enhancements knowing that the PS4's limitations are static. They're constantly catering to that crutch out outdated technology. Which in a way allows people with older computers to still enjoy the game. But the bottom line is that any changes should affect both platforms, and if half their playerbase is on the PS4--they won't want to nuke all of their frame rates, so it might be something on your end as well. -
09-25-2018, 04:10 AMEimian_Eda
You don't need a "Monster PC" to enjoy the game without drops.
If you're feeling issues with your game, check your CPU or your GPU, find which is holding you back.
Can't afford it now? Save up early!
My rig is midtier; no FPS issues outside of large patch days, however, my GPU is pretty LQ now so going to save up myself :)
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09-25-2018, 04:49 AMValkyrie_LennethSave up money for a bit. 50 a month for a while and you can build a nice pc. It's not that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumivyory
I don't make much, but I funnel a tiny amount into a seperate savings for when I'm ready to spend it on myself.
A 300 computer is not anything but a web browsing machine, just buy a chrome book at that point lol, especially if its a prebuilt, those have little to no room for upgrades later on. -
09-25-2018, 05:17 AMRyios
You can buy a Powerspec 1510 Laptop from Microcenter for $1200 that will run the game at Max and it comes with an SSD and 16gb of ram. It has a GSYnc Display and an Nvidia 1070 GTX. They have 6 month 0% financing available, $200 a month for 6 months.
With the cost of GPU's these days, it's almost better to just get a laptop and external monitor/kb/mouse.
It's almost as cheap to go prebuilt now as custom built, custom built might run you a lot more.
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09-25-2018, 02:23 PMLumivyoryIt's "not that much" to you maybe. I earn around 100 per month right now and would be able to save maybe 10 maximum. That's only 6 and a half years of saving! Good luck me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
My "web browsing machine" I had before my current laptop was running FFXIV just fine, and some much heavier games like Overwatch or BDO.
It upsets me when people basically sound like everyone around is rich enough to afford good gaming PCs and if you're not then you shouldn't play cuz your computer is not for games.
I never had much trouble playing FFXIV and it's one of the things I loved about this game - how well it can run on low-end computers without looking horrible as well. But now the amount of lag increases and it's just sad. -
09-25-2018, 03:15 PMko_
PFFT I'm happy with my 60 FPS on my PS4 pro. I upgraded from my baby PS4 2 months ago. >.> I got a big bro pro now.
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09-25-2018, 03:26 PMJkap_Goat
My PC graphics card died on me ( gtx 960 2GB ddr5) and the Motherboard won't turn on unless there is a graphic card that can power the Motherboard on. So right now I'm using an old PC to play FFXIV, until I get a better card
A leveno 420 office PC, specs are:
Core2quad, 6GB of ram, GT640 card and a coolermaster 500w PSU ( it came with the PC)
I have to put everything on low settings and play on a windowed screen but I pretty much get 45 FPS and can do pretty much everything. FFXIV is very optimize.
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09-25-2018, 08:32 PMLalaRu
Did not had the time for my concerns, that at job they provided me a PC with specs of my choice as soon as I told my pc cannot keep alive much longer.
Teleworking goodness. The bad is, when I do teleworking, will find myself working twice as in office. The usual "5 minutes to complete this" and after 5 minutes you look at the clock and they were a couple hours lol. -
09-25-2018, 08:45 PMTaranTatsuuchiIt'e probably less to do with a cap on how many frames the eye can percieve in total, and more to do with at how high a framerate a human can still identify a single contrasting frame.Quote:
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09-25-2018, 08:57 PMTizzy_TormentorEyes do not work like that, the difference between 30/60 FPS is noticeable, no one would give a shit if it wasn't, the difference it makes to the experience varies from person to person, but don't pretend no one notices the difference, your eyes can definitely tell.Quote:
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09-25-2018, 09:11 PMDerio
The difference between 30/60fps is jaw dropping. The same can be said about true 4k and 720p.
The human eye can actually see up to 80fps with any frames higher than that being very very very hard to notice a difference depending on the person's vision.
One can assume that SE isnt going to do a major graphical update, especially since they are hinting at another FF MMO in the future which will probably start on PC, and PS5. -
09-25-2018, 10:27 PMMaekaThat's a load of crock. I can easily tell the difference between 24 and 60 FPS.Quote:
Originally Posted by DuskTS
Now, once you get past 60.... there's diminishing returns, until about 80 or so I can't really tell the difference, but some people claim they can.
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09-25-2018, 11:21 PMVertoIncantation
lol, blaming PS4 for graphic setting is like blaming US citizen for electing trump. Graphic is user side..
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09-25-2018, 11:41 PMViduGraphics is only user side within the limits of graphic settings offered by the game. Since many people play on a PS4, which is weaker than a (highend) gaming PC, the devs wont spend time on developing super high quality graphic that a PS4 wont be able to handle - sure, they'll offer a little more for those of us who have a gaming PC and are therefor able to enjoy better graphic, but that only goes to an extend.Quote:
Originally Posted by VertoIncantation
So yes, part of why we wont see much better graphic (personally, I think the game looks lovely already - beside having those horrible pixels at certain parts of gear and AA basically doing nothing about it) is that they wont invest massive amount of ressources into something the PS4 wont be able to handle.
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09-26-2018, 03:46 AMMicahZerrshiaQuote:
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09-26-2018, 04:08 AMKewittSorry wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by DuskTS
Your eyes don't see in FPS 1st of all.
secondly get a 144 hz display and force refresh at 24 29.97 60 120 144. I will admit the difference between 60 and 120 is less then 29.97 to 60 and 120 to 144 is almost not noticable.
But you can really see a difference in 30 to 60.
@ DuskTS if you play on PC hit the magic 60 FPS ie lower res or graphic settings
Then limit FPS in graphic setting to 30 fps and if you don't see a difference in smoothness you should maybe see a doctor.
The 24 and 29.97 where flim standards where it was the minium to see smooth movement to cut cost on productions. Think 1960 where TV was new and everything cost a lot more then it does now to just flim something on film!
I can't remember the numbers but lets say to film a 1 hour move you need $240 of film @ 24 FPS vs $600 @ 60 FPS What would you do?
EDIT: Post the specs of your computer if it's not a laptop maybe the community could recommend a upgrade vs replacing the whole computer and give you better game play.