Are there any rewards in Pagos that aren't materia?

Open a Lockbox? Materia V.

Open a Cold-warped Lockbox? Materia V.

Kill a monster from a Bunny Fate, run all the way past Griffins and Morbols to get to a Gold chest and open it up? Materia VI!

Seriously, are there any other prizes? I understand the minions and other stuff became trivial to get in Anemos, but swinging to the opposite extreme of "Everything is now absurdly rare" when there are significantly less Lockbox drops isn't much better.

Shhhh... you might give them ideas...

"Hotfix: Adding sparklers back into Eureka Pagos lockboxes. Drops at a 99% rate."

Pagos putting that poor Goblin out of business

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Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain

Open a Lockbox? Materia V.

Open a Cold-warped Lockbox? Materia V.

Kill a monster from a Bunny Fate, run all the way past Griffins and Morbols to get to a Gold chest and open it up? Materia VI!

Seriously, are there any other prizes? I understand the minions and other stuff became trivial to get in Anemos, but swinging to the opposite extreme of "Everything is now absurdly rare" when there are significantly less Lockbox drops isn't much better.

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I’m more surprised to hear a good coffer dropped.

The RNG in this game is unfit for human consumption.

I don't think the droprate of good stuff is lower in Pagos, the shiver emote probably has a similar droprate to the t-rex mount, it's just a smaller sample size which is the kind of situation where the RNG can be extremely frustrating and feel totally broken. In Anemos you could open like 1000 boxes a day so even if it took you 6000 boxes to get the t-rex you still could do it in a reasonable amount of time. If it takes you 6000 cold warped lockboxes to get the emote then you'll get it shortly after the sun burns out. I don't think the devs have any sense of what a reasonable sample size for actual humans is, or how their RNG functions in different situations. The bigger the sample size the better their RNG works, but most of the things we do are microscopically small sample sizes.

The game is sorely lacking in gil sinks, so I don't mind the more exclusive rewards in Eureka being locked being RNG. If someone really wants a particular item they can either brave the grind and try their luck...or just buy it outright from the market board. At an inflated price, granted, though even at a casual pace gil isn't too hard to make in this game. I do agree that the game should stop leaning so heavily on materia as a reward, though. It practically throws it players these days so selling it on the market board often isn't wise and leaning on transmutation is just another layer of RNG and one that can be rather tedious and time consuming to engage in.

from what i understand, probably mostly wrong...

lower bunny fate can give two of the hakutaku eyes and two ingredients for the exp potion
upper bunny fate can give two of the eyes and stuffed bunny
regular lockbox gives two of the ingredients for exp potion and the glamour armor stuff, and furnishings
coldwarped lockbox can give the tarutaru minion, the cloth for making the male verison of lampshade glamour, one of the hakutaku eyes, furnishings, and shiver
king arthro can drop speedbelt
cassie can drop cassie earring and copycat minion
behemoth can drop behemoth horn or hide
hakutaku can drop optical hat if you have an eye cluster

but it's all tradeable so it's all crazy rare and coldlocked boxes are already annoying to get on top of the good stuff being rare

I just want my lousy Happy Bunny Triple Triad card.

Third day in a row of nothing but materia from bunnies. Lockboxes are hardly better.

I have to admit, sometimes RNG is completely unfair in this game too

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Originally Posted by Theodric

The game is sorely lacking in gil sinks, so I don't mind the more exclusive rewards in Eureka being locked being RNG. If someone really wants a particular item they can either brave the grind and try their luck...or just buy it outright from the market board. At an inflated price, granted, though even at a casual pace gil isn't too hard to make in this game. I do agree that the game should stop leaning so heavily on materia as a reward, though. It practically throws it players these days so selling it on the market board often isn't wise and leaning on transmutation is just another layer of RNG and one that can be rather tedious and time consuming to engage in.

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That's not a gil sink.
A gil sink is designed to remove gil from the game - i.e selling stuff to a vendor, the market board tax on purchases, housing etc.

All I know for amount of cold lock boxes I have opened in Pagos . I would had 5 redmage barding and 5 trex mounts. Since opened over 300 of them and in Anemos opened 200 and got 5 mounts and 5 bardings. Rng in Pagos is way to high. How high it is don't even care anymore about emote or drops. Once get my second weapon never stepping foot in Pagos again till they make some major improvements to it. Why waste time when 99% of items get is worthless material.

I recently got 4 dino mounts in Anemos in one night of play. RNGesus, lol

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Originally Posted by Nihility

the male verison of lampshade glamour

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That is a worryingly accurate description of it!

I wish I got materia, all I get are mushrooms and lizards tails with the odd confetti thrown in. That said I got my weapon today so as far as im concerned now Pagos may as well not exist anymore. Im never going in there again. My hands have all the dexterity of an OAP thanks to it they need a rest :)

What seems to me is that SE made this way to stimulate the market bored but Only Some are going to benefit. Any item at the moment is worth minimum five mil. to Some 5 million is a lot

On lamia it seems a lot of people must do it, tarutaru minion is 750k. Cassie is 6 mil but thats not expensive at all, relatively. The Private Moai is 4 mil. I think hunting hawk was like 20 mil at peak. For all the dislike, there's a decent amount of people who seem to like it enough to drop prices. Harmony potions actually are affordable now.

..and to be honest, I don't mind it, even knowing its faults. If you just do the logs, the mobs are easy to kill if you solo/duo/light party them. I think people were just trying to hardcore rush it, and learned not all grinds can be that.

I think though that they shouldn't have put the relic here. They should have kept it like before, and made this give its own gear. Experiemental content + relic is not a good idea.

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Originally Posted by Dragoon4life

What seems to me is that SE made this way to stimulate the market bored but Only Some are going to benefit. Any item at the moment is worth minimum five mil. to Some 5 million is a lot

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Only five million? Copycat Bulb goes for 16,000,000 at lowest on Cactuar.

20m on louisoix last I looked. Only 2 up for sale.

I’m so sick of getting materia. The double RNG is horrendous. I’m glad ppl are getting lucky and getting items but this content is a forced deidum which failed epicly. Except with Eureka if you want your relic it must be done. The grind is too intense. Needs must be made now while ppl are still playing content bc in 1-2 months Eureka will be a ghost instance just like diedum

Either bunny fate can give you a silver chest, silver chest has the chance at TT card. Still need that and Louhi card and I've opened a ton of silver chests and have enough Louhi Ice for ALL relics at this point. Last night every instance I entered emptied down to about 40 people within 30 minutes too. Super frustrating.

Glad I never got into doing this nothing in their is worth this type of grind anyways even the for a so called relic not worth chasing that carrot.

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Originally Posted by Dragoon4life

Pagos putting that poor Goblin out of business

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Meanwhile, Mutamix is putting in overtime.

its crazy that there is so much materia AND cracked clusters in there

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Originally Posted by Nihility

from what i understand, probably mostly wrong...
lower bunny fate can give two of the hakutaku eyes and two ingredients for the exp potion
upper bunny fate can give two of the eyes and stuffed bunny

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Both Bunny Fates can give you Bronze, Silver or Gold chests. The possible contents of which are the same for both fates.

For example I got Stuffed Bunnies from Silver chests from both fates. I Got my Happy Bunny Card from a silver chest lower fate, but a party mate got it from the upper earlier.

The real difference between the fates is that the lower one has more HP on the boss to kill it, but if you are 35 you can get every possible chest with no real risk. The upper fate has less HP on the boss, but some chests are in the depth of corps hills or Lou's Cave and good luck on getting those. The spawn rate of chest types seemed the same across the two fates.

I did a ton of them for my Bunny card, I got two eyes, 4 stuffed bunnies and more material, water and sage to crush my choco under its weight, before the card dropped. I also saw 2 people get the cassie minion, and many others get eyes.

The grind of doing them is tiresome though. I found creating a PF for it was best. People would stick most of a lockout with such pre-mades.