How do I get class Rogue or even Ninja?

Maybe Assassin even?
I'm stuck playing a pugilist. There was no other dps guilds available in the starter town I started in. I want to sneak in and take the prize and sneak out again without shedding unnecessary blood. Just my thing.


And instead of creating a seperate thread on second question; I took up mining, blacksmith wasn't available in my starter town. I usually do mining and blacksmith to make my own wpns when I play MMO's. Here it seems they're an entire different animal requiring full time employment. Not sure I want to waste the time leveling Mining if all it does for me is time wasting.


Third question; wheres the Auction House? Got some lvl 1 mats to sell.

Continue the MSQ, and then at one point you'll be given the ability to travel to other towns.

Yes, continue with the Main Scenario Quest (MSQ) and upon reaching LV10, you'll be able to switch jobs. Rogue is in Limsa Lominsa and you will eventually head there. Rogue upgrades into Ninja at LV30.

You don't have to level a Gatherer to level a Crafter, but it can get very expensive very quickly. Also, Blacksmith isn't the default for all weapons. Each crafter has a specialty weapon and the crafter changes depending on the weapon (like most BLM weapons are made by Goldsmith, but some wooden ones are made by Carpenter). Crafting isn't really helpful for gear until the end-game, because weapons from the shops are usually more than enough when you stay up to date.

Auction House here is the Market Board. You can sell items on the Market Board once you unlock a Retainer (around LV17).

Level 20 now, still no other towns visited that have other classes. What happens to my Pug skills when i switch to rogue? Or would it be smarter to create a second character so he can start as rogue? Who makes wpns for rogue?

Have you been doing your main story quests, as they unlock pretty much all the content in the game as you go along, including the ability to travel by airship between the three cities. As mentioned above, ROG is unlocked in Limsa Lominsa, which the main story will eventually take you to after the level 15 main story quest. In case you were unaware, main story quests are identified from regular sidequests by a special 'flaming meteor' icon instead of the regular '!' mark inside a speech bubble.

Also, have you been doing your class quests for PGL at the PGL Guild in Ul'dah? The level 10 class quest unlocks the ability to change classes, which is necessary if you want to switch to ROG.

As for abilities, each class/Job has their own set of abilities which changes when you change class, however, you can use the same role abilities used by your existing class, as ROG shares the same role (melee DPS) as PGL. You will just have to set the new abilities when you unlock ROG.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Have you been doing your main story quests, as they unlock pretty much all the content in the game as you go along, including the ability to travel by airship between the three cities. As mentioned above, ROG is unlocked in Limsa Lominsa, which the main story will eventually take you to after the level 15 main story quest. In case you were unaware, main story quests are identified from regular sidequests by a special 'flaming meteor' icon instead of the regular '!' mark inside a speech bubble.

Also, have you been doing your class quests for PGL at the PGL Guild in Ul'dah? The level 10 class quest unlocks the ability to change classes, which is necessary if you want to switch to ROG.

As for abilities, each class/Job has their own set of abilities which changes when you change class, however, you can use the same role abilities used by your existing class, as ROG shares the same role (melee DPS) as PGL. You will just have to set the new abilities when you unlock ROG.

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I'm doing all the quests. lvl 20 doing lvl 14 quests now. Been tempted to skip a couple of quests but haven't yet. Also been doing the special H skill thing where you kill 4 mobs each to gain lvl. levequest and that other seems to be a waste since I'm already out levelling my quests by quite a bit.

What lvl can I join a guild/company?

This site lists all the MSQ quests.
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...ah_Quest_Chain
The LV 15 quest "The Uldahn Envoy" is the quest that takes you to other cities and unlocks airship travels. The two cities you go to are Gridania and Limsa Lominsa. When you arrive in each city be sure to attune yourself to the main aetheryte (preferably all in the city) so you can teleport there just like you do Ul'dah.

Once you're in Limsa you can start the quest to accept the Rogue job and work on that class.

There are no level requirements to join a Free Company (thats what guilds are called in this game), you only need someone to invite you to theirs. You can use shout chat in a city, novice network, or post on here that you're looking for a friendly FC and you'll get some invites.

After the "Hero in the making" quest at lv 20 you'll be able to choose your Grand Company. GC's are mostly background/story fluff as they're nearly identical. The main difference between them is each has some unique looking gear, there's no game mechanic thats influenced by your GC.

Lots of questions. Ill add a little knowledge.

So first, a misconception. You started in Ul Dah as a pugilist. The thaumaturge guild is in that town, and that is the class that grows into the Black Mage job - certainly a DPS. And even if the MSQ hasnt taken you there yet, as someone who started in Ul Dah its possible to walk to Gridania(or vice versa). You pass through some mildly dangerous territory, but its doable at a surprisingly low level if youre cautious. Central Thanalan to eastern, cross the big bridge then continue north into the south shroud, from there to central shroud and to Gridania. Limsa is on an island, and the boat unlocks via the same quest as the airship so no early trips there. Gridania has the archer and lancer guilds(along with conjurer, leatherworker, carpenter and botanist).

Mining is a source of materials for crafting, or a source of income. You put in time and a little knowledge(knowing what to gather/where), you get out stacks of things to sell or fiddle with. Once you get to Limsa mining will certainly supply a lot of the materials that a blacksmith or armorsmith would use.

And i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but those level 1 mats arent likely to sell for much at all. Almost all of them can be found on the crafting vendors. Its around level 15 that mats stop being regularly sold by NPCs(players are still wont to sell anything and everything of course). As others have said, around level 17 in the MSQ youll be given the option to hire a retainer, and that NPC is how you sell things on the market.

So all your classes level separately. When you unlock ROG, you would be still be a level 21 PUG(or whatever level you are at that point) and a level 1 ROG. When playing as a ROG you use ROG skills. You can switch back and forth fairly freely(just cant be in a dungeon or during a fight). If you like ROG more you would eventually(probly fairly quickly) pass your PUG level altogether. Since theyre both melee DPS they share a set of "Role Skills", but everything else will be unique to one or the other. Rogue weapons(daggers) are mostly made by blacksmiths. And as for a second character, your first character can do and be almost everything so alts arent really required for much of anything. With that said, if you decide to make a ROG alt you should know that ROG is a special class. You cant start as one. You have to play something else for 10 levels(or more) and then switch. So if you wanted to do that, marauder would probly be the best bet as a starting class(arcanist also works).

As for skipping quests, you can. Lots of people will leave extra side-quests behind to use them to level up alternative classes later on. There are 3 types of quests to never skip. These are Main Scenario Quests(the meteor icon ones) - the quests that unlock most of the games features(if you skip these you literally cant do most things or go many places). Class quests - the ones that unlock some of your strongest and best combat moves. And unlock quests - optional quests that unlock more optional parts of the game(because you can never have too many options of what to do next - these will include everything from extra dungeons to changing your hairstyle to a trip to the Gold Saucer).

Good luck!

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There are no level requirements to join a Free Company (thats what guilds are called in this game), you only need someone to invite you to theirs.

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Just wanted to add that, while there is no level requirement for joining an existing Free Company, you have to be at least level 25 to create one.


A few significant Main Scenario unlocks in the early part of the game:

The Ul'dahn Envoy (level 15), (or for those who started in other cities, the equivalent quests The Gridanian Envoy or The Lominsan Envoy), unlocks airship travel between the three starting cites as well as ferry travel between Western Thanalan and Limsa Lominsa. It also marks the transition between the city-specific portion of the main story and the combined portion, since after this, the stories merge and people do the following quests regardless of which city they started in.

The Scions of the Seventh Dawn (level 17), in addition to being pivotal to the story, where you meet some of the game's important NPCs, is also what unlocks access to hiring retainers. Retainers are NPCs who will do several things for you, including holding extra items and selling items on the marketboard.

In The Company You Keep (level 20), you'll join one of the three Grand Companies of Eorzea, either the Maelstrom of Limsa Lominsa, the Immortal Flames of Ul'dah, or the Twin Adder of Gridania. The first big gameplay advantage you get from this is that they'll issue you a mount through the sidequest My Little Chocobo, and getting your chocobo unlocks access to use of mounts in general.


And a listing of where you'll find the various class guilds (along with which jobs they become at level 30):

Uldah:
Pugilist (Monk)
Thamaturge (Black Mage)
Gladiator (Paladin)
Weaver
Goldsmith
Alchemist
Miner

Gridania:
Lancer (Dragoon)
Archer (Bard)
Conjurer (White Mage)
Leatherworker
Carpenter
Botanist

Limsa Lominsa:
Marauder (Warrior)
Arcanist (Summoner and/or Scholar)
Rogue (Ninja)
Blacksmith
Armourer
Culinarian
Fisherman

In adddition to these, the Heavensward and Stormblood expansions added additional jobs, but to unlock any of those you'll need to reach level 50 (and have the associated expansion).

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Originally Posted by Slyhunter

I'm doing all the quests. lvl 20 doing lvl 14 quests now. Been tempted to skip a couple of quests but haven't yet. Also been doing the special H skill thing where you kill 4 mobs each to gain lvl. levequest and that other seems to be a waste since I'm already out levelling my quests by quite a bit.

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As the game has advanced, SE has boosted the amount of experience you get. Once you get into higher levels where it takes longer to get from one level to the next, you'll start to appreciate that, but it made the early levels get pretty far out of sync with the story. If you stick to just a single combat class and want to do most or all of what's available, then you're going to out-level your quests by quite a bit in those early few levels.

Some people are ok with that, and some don't like it. If you're in the later group, I'd suggest unlocking multiple classes so you can alternate quests and dungeons between them. You could either pick up another of the classes in Ul'dah, or , since it sounds like you're getting close to the Ul'dahn Envoy quest that gives you access to all the cities and their guilds, you could continue that far as Pugilist, then unlock Rogue and level it to 15 (pretty easy with just its class quests, hunting log, and a few sidequests you'll find there in and near Limsa), then you can pick up the next part of the story from there as Rogue, alternating Rogue and Pugilist once they're at similar levels.

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I usually do mining and blacksmith to make my own wpns when I play MMO's. Here it seems they're an entire different animal requiring full time employment.

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You'll find the blacksmith guild in Limsa Lominsa, along with the Rogue guild that you also want.

Crafting is its own activity with its own skills. There are skills for progressing a craft, skills for increasing your chances of a High Quality (HQ) result, skills for increasing the success rate of other skills, and so on. Like the combat classes, it starts off very simple and then gains complexity as you gain levels. Most of those skills will be the same for any crafting class, however at levels 15, 37, 50, and 54 you gain special skills that can be used cross-class. This means each class gives a different skill, but once you advance that class far enough to unlock the skill, you can use it on other crafting classes as well. This pattern makes your crafting more effective if you advance all the crafting classes to unlock each of their unique skills rather than just picking a favorite or two. (Note: most of the important cross-class skills come at levels 15 or 50, but Culinarian gives a really good one at level 37.)

So while blacksmithing is a good place to start out, and decide whether you like the game's crafting system or not, if you do decide you like it, then you're going to want to pick up the others as well. The first 15 levels will give a pretty good idea of what it's like, and it's also the point where you pick up your first cross-class skill.

I do recommend that everyone at least try out crafting that far. If you decide you like it, unlock the others and keep it up. If you decide you may like it but not enough for the time it takes, come back to it later once you reach endgame or whenever you want a break from combat. If you decide you don't like it, there are plenty of other ways to get good gear (including buying it from other players who do craft), so it's not a problem if you decide to drop crafting entirely.


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Crafting and gathering involves a lot of materials, and if you try to get too deeply into it before unlocking retainers, you'll run out of inventory space. It's ok to start the first few levels before then, but try to get to The Scions of the Seventh Dawn in the main scenario before you get too deeply into crafting, so you can get retainers to hold excess items and to sell your stuff.