Onion Doublet Still Obtainable in 4.0+?

June 2021 Edit: I don't think the Onion pieces are available anymore since the 5.4 Patch Notes states: "Certain items previously obtainable via retainer ventures have been removed."

May 2019 Edit: If any Onion Knights are browsing here looking for answers, I can confirm that the Onion Doublet/Gaskins/Pattens are still available via Quick Ventures. I got the Pattens in 2014, Gaskins in March 2019, and Doublet in May 2019. I've been neurotically spamming quick ventures with the max amount of retainers. Originally, I assumed that in order to increase my chances (i.e. decrease the pool of items obtainable), I had to keep most of my retainers undergeared and between lv10-50 so that they only brought back items from the Onion Gear era. However (and this is probably a coincidence), the Doublet and Pattens were both brought back by a lv70 BTN with i270 and 1161 gathering (cheap HQ lv70 gear with Gathering V materia). So, take that how you will. Good luck!

To the Onion Knights still on their quest, I recommend the following glamours in the meantime:

Blue Set:

• Head: Onion Helm
• Body: Woolen Doublet dyed blue
• Legs: Linen Gaskins dyed brown
• Feet: Walnut Pattens
• Shield: Onion Shield (But I use the Company Escutcheon because of my FC crest)

Red Set:

• Head: Red Onion Helm
• Body: Dodore Doublet
• Legs: Linen Gaskins
• Feet: Elm Pattens

Now onto my quest for the elusive Peregrine Helm...

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I was under the impression that improving gear widens the number of items you can get, but doesn't exclude lower end items. That means that it's less likely to bring it back from a quick venture as you progress, but it should never be impossible.

Ah, good point. I was thinking the same thing. I've reset my retainers a couple times so that I could have them between level 10-50 with high ilvl for their given level so that they can still bring back rare items. I'm thinking that I should keep doing that. If I just lower their ilvls at level 70, I won't get the text that says "your retainer should be able to bring back rare items, etc". Back to the RNG drawing board...

I can confirm that the Onion gear is still available from the current pool of quick ventures. I recently went on a quick venture binge for a few months and received both the Onion Doublet and Onion Pattens. Good luck, is all I can say XD.

Also, the onion gear is not considered "Items Most Rare". You won't increase your chances of getting them by gaming the system to lower requirements for the rare item req. The Onion gear is grouped with the regular level 1-50 group of returns, and increasing/decreasing your level/gear has no impact on regular, non-Items Most Rare items.

Good to know, thanks! Would you mind telling me around what level your retainer was at the time?

I had previously assumed they were considered "Items Most Rare" because they're listed under the rare items on this GamerEscape page: https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Quick_Exploration

That list is referring to items that can only be obtained via quick ventures, not necessarily the "Items Most Rare" you get a message for. All my retainers are level 70 with good gear, but since the onion gear is just part of the regular 1-50 set, there are no requirements for getting them except getting lucky. Only "rare" quick venture items are affected by your stats. There really is nothing you can do except keep sending your retainers out and hope for the best. Out of probably 3000+ ventures during my binge I only saw the Onion Doublet that one time, so just gotta keep whipping those retainers night and day.

You didn't ask for this information, but I feel the need to post it anyway...

The game DOES NOT let you put this gear into the Armoire.
The game DOES NOT let you put this gear into the Glamour Dresser**.

Very frustrating. Very irritating. I see no reason for this restriction.

**The last time I actually attempted to do this was right after they added the Glamour Dresser. It may have changed since then, and if so, please let me know so I can go put this crap in my dresser.

You can indeed put it in the glamour dresser. I guess they expanded the items allowed in there since I originally tried.

Yeah, that sucks =/ I have my other onion gear in my Armoury Chest, but I'm always a little paranoid that they'll disappear somehow. Luckily the Onion Helm can be put in the Armoire.

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You didn't ask for this information, but I feel the need to post it anyway...

The game DOES NOT let you put this gear into the Armoire.
The game DOES NOT let you put this gear into the Glamour Dresser**.

Very frustrating. Very irritating. I see no reason for this restriction.

**The last time I actually attempted to do this was right after they added the Glamour Dresser. It may have changed since then, and if so, please let me know so I can go put this crap in my dresser.

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https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/0ece80aeba3/

It's flagged as being able to be put in the glamour dresser. You can check just by looking at the icons on the item's tooltip in the game.

I had my retainers spam quick ventures a while back for a month. Had no luck getting any of the Onion pieces, I kinda gave up on it. Recently been thinking about trying to go for it again. So we can confirm retainer gear or levels do not matter for these pieces? I gave up cause I thought I needed better gear on my retainers.

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Originally Posted by Raldo

The game DOES NOT let you put this gear into the Armoire.
The game DOES NOT let you put this gear into the Glamour Dresser**.

Very frustrating. Very irritating. I see no reason for this restriction.

**The last time I actually attempted to do this was right after they added the Glamour Dresser. It may have changed since then, and if so, please let me know so I can go put this crap in my dresser.

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I thought the only things that couldn't go in either the dresser or armoire were pieces with unique extra information that those features can't reproduce when the item is removed, like relic weapons with customizable stats, or a wedding ring that has an extra field to identify whom you're married to. But I don't believe there are any such extra fields on an Onion Doublet, so it should be allowed.

It's possible that between when the dresser was introduced in 4.2 and when it was updated to allow removal of items in 4.3, there may have been additional restrictions to block really rare items from being placed there, since for that original version you couldn't get things back once put in the dresser. (I don't know if that's the case, but it would kind of make sense.) If so, that could account for why it didn't work before. It's worth trying again to check whether it can be placed in the dresser now.

As mentioned by this person

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It's flagged as being able to be put in the glamour dresser. You can check just by looking at the icons on the item's tooltip in the game.

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You can indeed put it in the glamour dresser. I tried after reading that post, and was successful. I have no idea why you couldn't originally, but after they added the ability to remove things from the dresser, I guess they increased the number of things that were allowed to be put into the dresser. Back when I had originally tried, you couldn't put in a small variety of random things I had (Oschon's Ring, Manderville Earrings, etc.). Now all of those items can be stuffed in the dresser as well.

I'll go back and strike through my old post so no one else gets confused.

So, for what it's worth as an update on down the line: I just espied someone who's been on the same hunt picking one up today in 6.0, so the game is still afoot, I believe. Of course, it could be faked - but I've no reason to doubt the veracity of this one.

Soldier on, future onions, soldier on.

Found this thread while looking up what these even were, and since someone already bumped it today - I might as well confirm that I got the onion gaskins today in 6.0.

...they don't look great, and honestly the only item of the set I find interesting is the helm which isn't possible to get. But I guess I'm obligated to let it eat a glamour dresser slot forever, since it's so rare.

2/13/2022 got an onion doublet from my retainer

[QUOTE=fo_of;4752513]June 2021 Edit: I don't think the Onion pieces are available anymore since the 5.4 Patch Notes states: "Certain items previously obtainable via retainer ventures have been removed."


Fyi, i just obtained the onion doublet, so this is me confirming the set is still obtainable in late 2022. :cool:

Yay I'm not alone in my quest for the Onion Gear!

Can confirm the Onion Doublet is still dropping. I got one this morning from my level 89 Botanist on a quick venture.

Sorry for the lack of a screenshot, I managed to spill a drink on my keyboard and was drying it off prior, so a crummy phone photo will have to suffice.

https://i.imgur.com/zVEbtsC.jpg

A nice start to 2023 with an unexpected Onion gear drop. I've been wanting one, but never thought I'd eventually get a piece!

Got the last 2 Weeks 2 Onion Doublets, 1 of a Miner Retainer Level 90 and 1 of a Level 90 Summoner Retainer Item Level 610. Wish I gould get the other Parts too.

It might be a matter of the prize pool getting larger as the game goes onwards.

On the one hand, they might have set it up to only be obtainable by max level retainers, but if not, then I assume it's a level 50 item and you might have more chance if you deliberately raise a job to only level 50 and assign your retainer to that job.

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Originally Posted by Ekoko

Can confirm the Onion Doublet is still dropping. I got one this morning from my level 89 Botanist on a quick venture.

Sorry for the lack of a screenshot, I managed to spill a drink on my keyboard and was drying it off prior, so a crummy phone photo will have to suffice.

https://i.imgur.com/zVEbtsC.jpg

A nice start to 2023 with an unexpected Onion gear drop. I've been wanting one, but never thought I'd eventually get a piece!

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Congrats!
Nice goggles by the way.

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Originally Posted by Sindele

So, for what it's worth as an update on down the line: I just espied someone who's been on the same hunt picking one up today in 6.0, so the game is still afoot, I believe. Of course, it could be faked - but I've no reason to doubt the veracity of this one.

Soldier on, future onions, soldier on.

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Haha, and now it's my turn. Doublet get. Interesting that we're seeing primarily doublets and gaskins, though - still no sign of the peregrine helm, or even a red onion in quite some time, huh?

I've just gotten the doublet from a level 82 archer retainer in poor gear (mostly Nomad set).

I don't think ilvl matters so much if at all for quick ventures. I levelled my ninja retainer 1-90 while only and still wearing the level 1 starting daggers that enabled her to be rogue initially and she was the one to give me the doublet recently, on top of numerous Radiant and Troian pieces before that as well. Here is a picture of her getting Radiant necklace just today for example to show the "importance" of ilvl.

Just dropping in to say that yes, the Onion Doublet set is still obtainable via quick exploration. Just got my Onion Gaskins as of 4/5/2023, (patch 6.38 for potential future readers.) https://i.imgur.com/2Jkbn18.png

I just recently reset their levels to get them off of the higher level drop tables (every time they break an expansion barrier, they unlock another loot table. A level 10 can roll anything from ARR's table, 51 for HW, 61 for SB, etc. So you greatly increase the odds by keeping your retainer at level 50 or below.)

It's also worth noting that I've been playing for years, with 5 retainers, and have pretty much always just used them for quick explorations. This is the first time I've seen a single piece of the set. So I'm guessing they're pretty rare.

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Originally Posted by fo_of

June 2021 Edit: I don't think the Onion pieces are available anymore since the 5.4 Patch

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2023: Just got one super randomly!

Doesn't seem like I can attach an image though, just internet links. But the Doublet does exist!

Hello! This is my very first post on the FFXIV forums, since i never got it to work before.
I just got the Onion Doublet so i am posting here to show it is still obtainable! In total i get in about 10 to 20 quick ventures a day and this is the very first time i got an item from the set. I didn't even know it existed, i thought the helmet was the only thing.


https://imgur.com/a/VS6LdSZ

edit: i tried to make the image work but i have no clue how to, so here is the link https://imgur.com/a/VS6LdSZ

I got onion pattens today 7th sep 2023. Didn't know about the set but found this thread. 10 retainers doing quick ventures this is the first I've ever seen, so glad I found out more about them here.

Signed up for the forums just to check in on this. Got the pattens today off a quick venture. Would love to see the doublet some day!

Onion Doublet from quickventures on my Alt dropped in DT. Quick Exploration Miner 74, Quick Exploration Redmage 68 and Fisher 69. I do not know which one brought it

Hopefully SE will make these tradeable/marketable at some point due to the extreme rarity. Players with no interest in these items are getting them while those who want them can't. I've got a doublet and 2 gaskins scattered on various characters that I would be happy to give to other players if I could.

So is the Onion Gear and Peregrine Helm still available? I got the Red Onion Helm a few times, but I can never seem to get the Onion Gear and Peregrine Helm. :(

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Originally Posted by Alchemii

So is the Onion Gear and Peregrine Helm still available? I got the Red Onion Helm a few times, but I can never seem to get the Onion Gear and Peregrine Helm. :(

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It is, i got the doublet in DT and just got the Onion Pattens. Retainers do quickventure Lvl 74 Miner, 72 Redmage, 69 Fisher

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Originally Posted by Alchemii

So is the Onion Gear and Peregrine Helm still available? I got the Red Onion Helm a few times, but I can never seem to get the Onion Gear and Peregrine Helm. :(

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I've seen some players suggest placing lower ilvl gear on retainers since ilvl and gathering skill (DoL retainers) affects loot tables. I don't know if that ever helped anyone but it might at least filter out other items to improve your chances.

I still think SE should make the items tradeable.