It's to the point where I don't even read the MSQ and I skip any cutscene if it's not directly involving something pretty looking like a cityscape or battle. Can someone help me out with tips on how to get over this hump of trash storyline in Stormblood? Am I the only person who is not at all interested in how some far away land that has nothing to do with where I'm from is being attacked by an empire no longer attacking me.... for a whole expansion........ idk it doesn't help that I'm a white mage. stoning shit to death has got to be a special form of hell.
vent over i guess,
help me i'm logging in lol
Been playing solo for almost 60 days now...
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08-17-2018, 10:01 AMPitsBeen playing solo for almost 60 days now...
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08-17-2018, 11:03 AMKidria
Although you could say that of Doma, I think the storyline does a decent (not AWESOME but decent) method of connecting to why you should care. Ala Mhigo shares a border with Gridania--very much a looming threat. But to get to Ala Mhigo, you have to save Doma so the empire panics. It's diversion tactics, and that's kinda what it's about. The empire isn't attacking you now, but they are always poised to if they keep Ala Mhigo.
As for the telling, it's not horrible. I mean not everyone likes it, but it is what it is lol Azim Steppe is the best part of the expac tbh. -
08-17-2018, 02:04 PMMicahZerrshia
The main problem with the storyline is that they split it into 2 and neither one of them are better for it. They both had potential to be great stories but should have each been their own expansion. I honestly enjoyed the Ala Mhigo section much more than the Doma. I also feel cheated out of zones we are not going to get at all and zone expansions its safe to say are just not going to happen (looking at all those wasted zone lines in ARR zones).
I really don't know why they added Doma in this expac, it really should have been 5.0 with Garlemald in 6.0 although I am pretty happy that we will be seeing an end to the reign of Garlemald in 5.0 and hopefully the Ascians too, or soon after. These antagonists have been around since 2010, time to put this baby to bed and give us something different.
Also, if you are not doing so already, use your chocobo companion. Will make things go much faster if you're on healer, esp if its already at the rank 20 cap -
08-21-2018, 03:45 AMNiwashiBecause sometimes it's content (like which jobs they want to add) that comes first, and the story has to be designed to work that in somehow. SE was in a hurry to bring out the next two most popular jobs, so we got Doma to justify getting samurai.Quote:
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08-21-2018, 02:36 PMFrizze
We'll call this light spoilers - read at your own peril.
At no point did i ever actually care about Ala Mhigo. When i first met the Ala Mhigan refugees they came off to me as unsympathetic. Their old were defeated, their young were the enemy(trying to summon a primal to their cause - have they not noticed that this basically never works?). What bits of lore i picked up made it sound like they didnt even fight to save their own land from invasion, and instead wanted everyone else to fight for them. We recruited several of them to join our Crystal Braves initiative, and given time they could have won us over and moved us into taking a more proactive position on the Ala Mhigan issue. Instead they betrayed us and set us up. When the Griffin eventually made his big play at the Wall i wasnt moved to see his side - i was upset with him over the level of losses he was willing to accept and the collateral damage from his brash move. So we go into enemy territory. The locals are antagonistic against the resistance. The resistance itself seems fairly hopeless. And sure enough, as soon as they put forth even a token amount of effort(with our help) Zenos shows up and sorts them out. The only reason he doesnt wipe them out is that he's too bored. We leave, and by the time we come back... almost nothing has changed. At this point Zenos is curious if we can get strong enough to give him a real fight, so he has little incentive to really stop us. Instead he puts seemingly everything on his 2nd - whether this is so he can prepare or because he thinks she will ultimately fail im not sure. All along the way the locals are still fairly unsympathetic and the land itself didnt even seem worth liberating. Now Fordola? Her i liked. Her story was fairly cliche, but she fought like a rabid dog to prove herself and keep her position. After failure she didnt blame others, she sought to do whatever she could to improve her lot.
Compare to Doma. When we meet the refugees they are boat people. Theyve been at sea for months trying to find a safe port. There was an attempted uprising, and the empire didnt just put it down but they put it down with authority. They had to flee if they wanted to live. They call upon us for help, and we find them a barren inhospitable place to stay(they get approx the same level of help as the ala mhigans did back in the day). Do they complain? Maybe a little, but by and large they are grateful to have someplace rather then continuing to travel the seas. They have a bit of trouble adjusting, but they make due. One of their leaders even more or less joins the Scions to help us with our troubles because of the help we provided them. So after the rumble at Rhalgrs we get the idea to open a second front and head toward Doma to see what the prospects are. The locals still have a fire in them, but their overlord is twisted and sadistic so they arent super on-board with us stirring up trouble(i also liked yotsuyu). We meet Hien and he's the type of leader they wish they had back in ala mhigo. Hes smart(he has an actual plan!), hes tough, but hes willing to respect his peoples wishes if they dont want him to cause trouble(bonus points for his theme - love me some FF6). The plan was a bit of a longshot, but we pull it off being the warrior of light(because duh). More bonus points for showing up to help us in the battle of ala mhigo(a fight that had nothing to do with him). And i liked his presence during the Asahi story of the last couple patches(which did tie a nice little bow on a couple issues). Also in contrast, the land we free isnt just some barren wasteland - it seems worth fighting for - and not just for strategic purposes.
tl;dr - I thought ala mhigo was the bad part of this expansion. You can force me to fight somewhere but you cant force me to care. -
08-21-2018, 06:18 PMAlrinVery well written. I feel somewhat same.Quote:
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I didnt really care about Ala Mhigo, but i was sad that Doma part ended.
And I was Maleficing shit to death until like half of the Azime Steppe and Broiling it from then to lvl 70 when i returned to Maleficing so... :) -
08-21-2018, 11:40 PMMaeka
Well, some friends of yours (the refugees that moved into Mor Dhona) are domans and Yugiri who helps you out of some big pickles is a doman... so what, you have no loyalty to the people who helped you?
@Frizze: One thing I would have to say, is that regardless of what one might or might not think about Ala Mihgo... one thing I cannot deny is how purely awesome that cutscene in the prison with Fordola is, when she makes the mistake of looking into the WoL's memories. lol.
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08-22-2018, 03:05 AMJohnJacobAstorYeah same here. I think it may just be that White Mage is just incredibly boring. I'm considering switching up classes altogether even though I'll have to level back up to 56 cause White Mage is just that boring.Quote:
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08-22-2018, 09:28 PMFrizzeLike i said, i liked Fordola(cliches and all). Family in a position to benefit more from the occupation then most. Tragedy ensues that makes both sides out to be the bad guy. Joins the army to take her proper place and maybe get a little revenge. Rises through the ranks even though she isnt a garlean(dealing with prejudice and questions all along the way). Attacks ruthlessly regardless of the target(the castrum attack?). Undergoes experimental procedure with unintended consequences. Defeated and captured by the "hero" of the story. "Why do you do it?" Her story probly has 1 or 2 more chapters in it, and im curious if theyll do something bold or stay(fairly) predictable. We'll start to find out soon enough.Quote:
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08-24-2018, 01:27 AMIscahI agree with you overall that I didn't like the Ala Mhigan part of Stormblood (though I wasn't all that keen on the Doman side either), but I think you're misremembering this bit. The only Ala Mhigan we recruited to the Braves was Wilred, one of the few 'good' Braves, who was himself betrayed by the others.Quote:
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And I don't think we were ever supposed to sympathise with the Griffin. The overall plight of Ala Mhigo, yes, but not him. -
08-24-2018, 10:05 PMFrizze
You could be right that im remembering it wrong, ill have to go back and look at some cutscenes. If only saying Moose's name would summon him to boards other then Lore. But i remember one more prominent Ala Mhigan amongst the braves(who i thought we recruited, but i guess i could be wrong). That being Ilberd. And he was definitely one of the ones trying to put the knife in our back.
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08-25-2018, 04:18 PMIscahWe didn't recruit Ilberd. We first met him when the Braves had been organised and we were handing out their uniforms.Quote:
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I checked his first quest dialogue (from "Brave New Companions"):
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I don't believe we've met. I am Ilberd, and I will have the honor of leading my fellow recruits as captain. Much did I lose to the Calamity, and I look forward to aiding others in rebuilding their lives.
The uniforms are a shrewd decision. There is no easier method of creating a common bond among what is, essentially, a band of strangers.
I was barely more than a refugee myself for a time, and I know what it is to be without hope. I shall do my utmost to see this company succeed...
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08-25-2018, 11:43 PMFrizze
Fair enough, we werent the one to bring him into the fold. Its been a couple years since i did those quests and the exact details arent as sharp as they could be. I know im not wrong that he was in on the betrayal though.
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09-01-2018, 02:07 AMCeridwenae
I think, by and large, I had the same reaction to Ala Mhigo as you, Frizze. What didn't help in my case was rattling through the MSQ non-stop from ARR (Toto-Rak, or thereabouts, which was where my main got up to the first (or was it second?) time I tried playing this game) to patch 4.2. Even worse was being absolutely invested in/floored by/heartbroken by/heart-all-made-up-again with Heavensward and the Dragonsong to the point I think I actually resented going to that brown-orange meh wasteland, when all I wanted to do was set up residence permanently in Ishgard and never, ever leave. I hated Ala Mhigo utterly. I only came around (a bit) to Stormblood by the Azim Steppe (I would have that place as my second home, #IfyoudontbehaveIllbeyourNhaamayouidiot), and Doma certainly helped, but then they made me go back to the brown-orange meh and I was angry again.
I still don't like the Gyr Abania, but I just try to ignore it when I'm there, and think of Ishgard instead.
In respect to you, OP! Try another job. May take a while to level it, but consider it a break from the story that's bugging you. Use the healer in dungeons (keeping on top of its levels/gear/whatnot), and use another class/job, I don't know, more interesting (? Sorry, healers. I'm just a heathen, I know) for the rest of it. Can't promise it makes it any better, but at least it won't be Stone-Stone-Stone-whatever-else-it-is-healers-do.
EDIT: Just saw date of OP post. Welp, I'm late to this party, and I imagine you're already got through most of the stuff by now. Hope you had fun in the end if so!