So What Do You Do When Someone DCs?

So I'm curious how some of you react when a player in your instance DCs. Most of the time you don't know the reason, but I'm curious what do you do?

My main reason for asking is because of a "very" recent incident I was in.

I queued for Sirensong Sea with a friend of mine, I wanted to see if I could get the Healer Gloves for a glam. Anyway the run was fine, nothing was really said besides me noticing we were all 70, no one leveling. Everything was great up until the end of the first boss. As i went to greed for the loot, I heard an odd sound from my controller, and for whatever reason my cursor made me pass on one piece of loot, no big it was a ring. But after that i noticed my cursor was going crazy, and it kept switching between me and my fairie rapidly. I caught up to the party and kept them alive, but asked them to stop as my targeting was acting up. Well, I notify my friend to let them now my controller is having an issue and I am trying to get back; at this point I got stuck in the PS main menu. He said that they booted me. Now I can understand being booted but he showed me images of what they said. Apparently, my message came through 100% backwards, my friend then tried to respond that my keyboard might be acting up to. Well the tank said "typing backwards, how original", commented that my system seems to be fine enough to type backwards, and then the other DPS said I must be smoking pot. Yeah cause that excuse is original too.

Now I have no issue with being kicked, it is understandable. My issue is why would you attack me when you don't even know me. What kind of a person are you to do that? A very insecure one, I think.

So yeah how do the rest of you react to a player DCing?

If a party member DC i wait a couple minutes to give them time to get back on. After that couple minutes i would likely proceed to kick to replace you.

I give them roughly 5 minutes to get back in, if not a little longer. If I'm on a job that has a heal, will spam heals on them. Not sure if it actually works, but seems like things that effect them make the game register that they've DC'd faster than if I just sat there waiting for them. For issues like you have, I just take the person at face value; if they say they have hardware acting up, I believe them, especially if things were looking a little dicey beforehand (like HP dropping lower than what they'd normally done, reactions are late when they were fine before, this kind of stuff).

Some people are just really immature (not even limited to this game) and jump to really illogical assumptions.

If you’re a job that I can continue the run just fine without then I will continue to the end of the run without you if no-one else has any complaints, otherwise I think at least five minutes is a fair enough amount of time to wait.

Roughly 5 minutes. As that is the minimum amount of time it takes for them to come back after getting disconnected or game crashing on PS4. If they are a tank or healer I give them a little bit more time.

I usually wait for 5 minutes. If chat is good then even longer :)

Generally give them a few minutes to come back, if possible to go on without them, push slightly slower to the next boss and if they're still gone by the time the group reaches the boss then start considering the kick.

Depends, rule of thub is wait for 5min, if doing POTD 100+ keep him, being we can't replace. HoH Floors 30+ same.

I had an issue once where my typing wasn't backwards, but rather it was garbled over other people's text in the chat. A quick restart fixed it.

I live in an area that has a lot of frequent and severe storms, so there are times when I will disconnect suddenly, but I can usually come back within 3-5 minutes. If the group has booted me, no big deal. But if it happens to another player, I will wait for them -- again, no big deal.

Wait a bit (5min) then boot. If it's a 90k to start menu they usually get back on within 2 minutes. If they were lagging throughout the run (red dc symbol) and warping around or if they say something like "restarting" I might wait longer.

Wait around 5 minutes, if they DC'd in the middle of a pull I'll start counting when the last enemy is dead. If they're a tank or healer I may wait a little more, if it's a DPS I'll go all the way to the next boss and there wait 5m. Sometimes stuff happens, net goes out bc of your ISP, modem acting up, random blackout, the cat just decides to throw the modem 'cause you didn't feed him...

If I'm on RDM, I don't care, I can probably do the whole dungeon by myself.

Joking aside, I don't like it when the party immediately votes to dismiss someone who DCd. Give them some time! Sometimes I get randomly disconnected too and whenever I am, I try to get back as fast as physically possible. Factoring in the time required to reset stuff on the software (including giving Steam enough time to reconnect) and, in extreme cases, hardware end, I think it's reasonable to wait up to 5 minutes for someone to get back. Past that, it's likely to be a longer outage or (this happened to me a few times) a surprise Windows update someone forgot to postpone. At that point, I think it's okay to look for replacement.

Dungeons generally aren't that hard anyways. There are no mechanics that require full-party teamwork to proceed and fighting is almost never down to the wire. You can do small pulls and even most bosses without one or even both DPS (I've never hit an enrage timer, I'm not sure if dungeon bosses even have one?), or if your tank is a PLD they can often sustain without a healer, or if one of your DPS happens to be RDM, they can easily cover healing (until mana runs out). In a pinch, you can even use Titan-egi to... kinda... tank... okay not really but in theory it should work with most of tank-and-spank AAR bosses.

You're not penalised for dying in a dungeon much (beyond adding a handful more gil to the repair bills) so even if pressing on gets you wiped, it's at least more engaging than standing around and waiting. It doesn't hurt (that much) to try.

I try to wait 10 mins at latest. Cause shit happens. Comcast is a thing and being in that dc spot where 5 mins just wasnt enough? I give 10 mins. Cause sometimes shit really does happen and it's not the persons fault. Course I'm not super sonic inpatient either.

I give em around 5 minutes or so before I decide to kick em. Though one time that time passed, I voted to kick, and he came back on, though it was too late to retract the kick, whether or not he fixed his internet or anything else that caused him to DC lol.

5 minutes at least. If they have a friend saying they are trying to get back, I would wait longer.

I aim for 5 minutes before bringing it up.

I've been vote kicked once out of a 24-man raid due to my connection dropping. The raid was almost done, i was gone maaaaybe 2 minutes, and I came back to a 'you've been dismissed' screen. It sucked :p

Draw on their face with a permanent marker.

Or wait a few minutes. Unless I'm in some kind of severe rush, but then I wouldn't queue for a dungeon in the first place.

I'll wait 5 minutes or so to allow the person time to get back in. If the player or someone in the group says they are having problems and need to reboot or whatever I am willing to wait even longer.

Generally speaking, I am going to allow them time to log back in. It's happened to me, and I feel I should extend the same courtesy to the community at the very least.

In your situation as I read it, I would have likely opposed the booting. It appears the group thought you were trolling, and if I felt you were not I would have defended your case even after they booted you. You really have to be careful booting a healer or tank. Any group who does can be waiting a long time for a replacement. Because of that, I also have to mention that I was not there, and my decision could easily go the other way if I felt your activity was abrasive or malicious.

I generally give them until the next boss to get back if nobody else in the group knows what happened to them and if they're coming back. If they dc'd immediately prior to the boss, I'll wait a few minutes. I basically just don't care until it's holding up the run and/or preventing progress.

For tanks and healers, I wait for ~5 mins because shit happens, and after that I just boot. They can just easily find a new queue and jump right in.

For DPS since we can easily run dungeons w/ 1 DPS short, I just wait a little longer because they can't just randomly queue up to enter another dungeon run again.

If I am Party Leader I give 3-5 mins, then boot. Unless the person was terrible (either player or person) then auto boot from me.

I'm generally not opinionated enough to care WHY you disconnected. If you're gone for more than a few minutes though, you'll get replaced. We all want to keep moving after all.

Give some time to come back. For some, it may take a restart. For lower level content it's even less important to dismiss, unless it's someone we can't get along without.

Don't be like my party in Ridorana recently, though, where 7 people were together and their friend my co-healer was "coming back" for nearly the entirety of Belias through Construct and they refused the dismiss. Forcing me to solo heal by denying me the ability to get another healer.

Usually when someone D/C's, my characters jump and emote spam activates until they come back, or we try to clear as much as we can. After a certain amount of time, you'll probably get kicked, but if you said in chat that you will brb, I would be happy to wait.

Five minutes is about enough. Any longer and it's not worth your time to stay in the dungeon yourself. I'd rather eat the 30 minutes crafting than waiting around for some random guy promising his miqote lady friend will be back "soon". It's happened before, and no doubt will happen again.

I usually wait 5 minutes if I'm party lead. I'm on ps4 so I know how much of a pain it can be. The usual steps I have to take:

1) turn off the ps4
2) go downstairs and reset the router if it was internet going out that caused the dc
3) once my router has decides to boot up and ps4 recognizes that internet is back: put in my passwords (thank god for keyboards)
4) wait
5) wait some more until I can finally log into my character
6) and finally wait until my loading screen is finished to apologize

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Apparently, my message came through 100% backwards, my friend then tried to respond that my keyboard might be acting up to. Well the tank said "typing backwards, how original", commented that my system seems to be fine enough to type backwards

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You're playing with controller + keyboard, right? The backwards typing could still be because of your controller. It sounds like its directional button was sticking. That would cause all the symptoms you mentioned: Unintended left/right movement changed your loot choice. Unintended up/down and left/right movement caused your targeting to keep switching around. Unintended left movement while the chat box had focus as you were typing kept moving the cursor back to the beginning of the line so each character typed showed up in front of the previous ones rather than after, resulting in that backwards text.

The only bizarre thing is the tank thinking your chat being screwed up by it is a sign that everything's working fine. :rolleyes:


But to your topic question, I do much the same as most of the commenters here. Even if nobody knew what was happening, I'd wait a few minutes to see if you came back. Since you mentioned having technical problems before the disconnect, I'd have been in favor of waiting a bit longer than normal, and would have voted against a kick if I were in the party when it came up. (Of course, that's assuming it came up rather quickly, as your post seems to suggest. Even for genuine technical problems, I'm not waiting forever if you're playing a tank/healer that we can't finish the run without.) If you're DPS, or an extra tank/healer we don't actually need to progress, then we'll continue without you and you have until we finish the run to get back.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

So I'm curious how some of you react when a player in your instance DCs. Most of the time you don't know the reason, but I'm curious what do you do?

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Just keep going as though they are still there. I'm under the belief that if someone DC's because of connectivity/tech issues, they will come back as soon as their PC/console reboots. That should really be 90 seconds or so. If it's a dungeon and we're just on trash, typically one can just baby-pull the mobs and clear up to the boss room waiting for them to come back.

If someone doesn't come back before reaching the boss room, then "kick or wait?" is asked when we get there unless the DC'd player is a DPS, or one of the DPS players is a Summoner, by which we may just start the boss and see if we can get through it. If the tank DC's, the healer can tank some bosses. If the healer DC's and there is still a tank with useful healing (eg Paladin), we may still see if it can be done.

In 8 or 24-player content, if you DC before getting pass the first boss, most players would rather kick an offline player and then just proceed without waiting for a replacement.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

So I'm curious how some of you react when a player in your instance DCs. Most of the time you don't know the reason, but I'm curious what do you do?

My main reason for asking is because of a "very" recent incident I was in.

I queued for Sirensong Sea with a friend of mine, I wanted to see if I could get the Healer Gloves for a glam. Anyway the run was fine, nothing was really said besides me noticing we were all 70, no one leveling. Everything was great up until the end of the first boss. As i went to greed for the loot, I heard an odd sound from my controller, and for whatever reason my cursor made me pass on one piece of loot, no big it was a ring. But after that i noticed my cursor was going crazy, and it kept switching between me and my fairie rapidly. I caught up to the party and kept them alive, but asked them to stop as my targeting was acting up. Well, I notify my friend to let them now my controller is having an issue and I am trying to get back; at this point I got stuck in the PS main menu. He said that they booted me. Now I can understand being booted but he showed me images of what they said. Apparently, my message came through 100% backwards, my friend then tried to respond that my keyboard might be acting up to. Well the tank said "typing backwards, how original", commented that my system seems to be fine enough to type backwards, and then the other DPS said I must be smoking pot. Yeah cause that excuse is original too.

Now I have no issue with being kicked, it is understandable. My issue is why would you attack me when you don't even know me. What kind of a person are you to do that? A very insecure one, I think.

So yeah how do the rest of you react to a player DCing?

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I firstly check to see if anyone in group is a lalafell, then ask if anyone else wants them as I need to level my CUL skill while waiting for DCee to return
5mins and lalafell is done, usually enough time for the player to return, otherwise a kick

In frontline I rather someone else do the {vote dismiss} AFK if it's been well over 5 minutes or so. As you can only initiate a vote once every four hours. I rather vote dismiss the ones who follow or cause trouble.