New Character Creation V2.0 and you

Just a quick edit because I'm not sure people read past the first line: This thread is not about confirming if we get to remake our character. This is about when it happens.

So everyone I've been thinking. I'm fairly confident that we will get to remake our characters with the release of v2.0. I can't remember if its been confirmed exactly or not (I'm quite lazy and don't keep up with all the patch notes) so I won't say it will be. However, I was wondering if it is how this should be added into the game or if its even worth thinking/doing something about. I'm not sure if there have been any plans like this, but I just would like to know what would you like to see happen.

Would you like it to just magically happen when you log in one day? How about talking to a certain npc and to be granted a single ticket (maybe the ticket should or shouldn't have an expiration) you can use to take you back to the creation screen. Perhaps there should be a quest involved? Maybe as the new world is being formed so will we? I'm not sure. There could be a nice cutscene or event that could happen. Maybe we can become a spirit (or zombie) for a certain time until we can obtain a new body!? Maybe you wish nothing at all to happen. Just trying to make a conversation. I apologize if this has been discussed already. ; ; I could find nothing of the such.

tl;dr - When v2.0 happens how should we be able to create a new character?

This is my wish, I hope SE does it this way and it's my opinion that it would be suited for 95% of the players based on recent discussions.

You login and it says "hey stupid @55, make a new guy cause you think your old one looks lame,
hokay?"

Yes
No

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Originally Posted by RemVye

This is my wish, I hope SE does it this way and it's my opinion that it would be suited for 95% of the players based on recent discussions.

You login and it says "hey stupid @55, make a new guy cause you think your old one looks lame,
hokay?"

Yes
No

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/chuckle Due to server structure, your character(s) base does not meet the specific requirements. Please start over.

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Originally Posted by Nullie

So everyone I've been thinking. I'm fairly confident that we will get to remake our characters with the release of v2.0....

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That's where I stopped reading. It has been confirmed we will be able to change our race, gender, and appearance with the release of 2.0. Here's the link ^^

http://wdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...Outline_EN.pdf

Thank you for the input Antanias, but that is not what the subject is about. Could you read the rest and maybe edit your post with what the subject is about?

I would be fine with just loggin in, and getting the message

"Do you want to remake your character"
yes
no

we will know ahead of time before this happens, so it wont be a big surprise.

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

I would be fine with just loggin in, and getting the message

"Do you want to remake your character"
yes
no

we will know ahead of time before this happens, so it wont be a big surprise.

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Sounds reasonable, but what if you haven't decided yet and can't choose from that point on? Would you just not play until you're ready to decide? For some people who may be out of the loop all together do you think this could cause a panic like "Omg my character is deleted!?!? Do what now!?!?"

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Originally Posted by Nullie

Sounds reasonable, but what if you haven't decided yet and can't choose from that point on? Would you just not play until you're ready to decide? For some people who may be out of the loop all together do you think this could cause a panic like "Omg my character is deleted!?!? Do what now!?!?"

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To be honest, SE will have a plan and they will use that plan. I doubt they are in such a creative slump that they will search out the Lodestone forums (less the ENGLISH forums) for an inventive way to implement character creation.

I hope they do it in a crude way that causes people to get upset... ah, let's be real here... no matter what SE does people will turn it into some rage thread on the forums.

Off-topic: Can anyone name a feature that has been put in the game that hasn't been met with some sort of retaliation / resentment / rage / rework requested / remorse thread on the forums? Nothing comes to my mind.

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Originally Posted by RemVye

To be honest, SE will have a plan and they will use that plan. I doubt they are in such a creative slump that they will search out the Lodestone forums (less the ENGLISH forums) for an inventive way to implement character creation.

I hope they do it in a crude way that causes people to get upset... ah, let's be real here... no matter what SE does people will turn it into some rage thread on the forums.

Off-topic: Can anyone name a feature that has been put in the game that hasn't been met with some sort of retaliation / resentment / rage / rework requested / remorse thread on the forums? Nothing comes to my mind.

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Yes, I understand. That is a very good response. Thank you. c:

I've talked to some of my shell members about this as well as other people in game. Maybe I'm hoping something could be said in advance. I do know that like you said there is all that / r going on. Because of this I know people who avoid the forums all together. The whole site even. I've mostly been a lurker and just watch. I'm usually too afraid to post anything because I feel like I'd be slapped in the face. Some people don't even read updates because they don't want to ruin the surprises coming to the game. I was surprised with how people handled the goobue and did not know it would cause the mess it did. Either way I'm not sure I'd be prepared for the update if it were to just randomly happen so I'd like to be prepared somewhat as to what were happen when it did. Maybe something could be said that will catch their eye and make them want to do that.

I know chances are probably slim, but I can still hope. Either way thank you for the discussion. c:

Oh and as far as the other part to your post Rem, maybe adding the chocobo in finally. I was gonna suggest maybe the display main off, but then I thought about it and remember people complaining about that and how it doesn't fit lore or something. Haha. I'm sure there may have been someone who said "Oh I don't like the chocobo cause of how it was added in. You could just buy it instead of quest for it like in 11."

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Originally Posted by Nullie

Yes, I understand. That is a very good response. Thank you. c:

I've talked to some of my shell members about this as well as other people in game. Maybe I'm hoping something could be said in advance. I do know that like you said there is all that / r going on. Because of this I know people who avoid the forums all together. The whole site even. I've mostly been a lurker and just watch. I'm usually too afraid to post anything because I feel like I'd be slapped in the face. Some people don't even read updates because they don't want to ruin the surprises coming to the game. I was surprised with how people handled the goobue and did not know it would cause the mess it did. Either way I'm not sure I'd be prepared for the update if it were to just randomly happen so I'd like to be prepared somewhat as to what were happen when it did. Maybe something could be said that will catch their eye and make them want to do that.

I know chances are probably slim, but I can still hope. Either way thank you for the discussion. c:

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It's very rare you get a direct response from me to be honest. The best way to handle the forums is to realize that most people, that are posting, are stupid or ignorant (please see the definition of these two words in your nearest dictionary; people seem to think these words are insults).

I approach every thread as if it were a joke being started by a troll. Sometimes people are serious, but it's only met with harsh opposition and becomes a 158 page back and forth flame war.

But yeah, these forums are a joke pretty much everywhere. I think the only forums that could be worse are ZAM's forums. Don't you dare mention anything positive there or you will be flayed and burnt to a crisp. View my new signature at this time. Logic is something that doesn't come easily to a lot of people on these forums. The ones who think this game is being built as a niche game and for the ffxi / ff purists usually are the ones raging due to change. No one likes change, but eventually they will accept or move on. *Tired..*

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Originally Posted by Nullie

Oh and as far as the other part to your post Rem, maybe adding the chocobo in finally. I was gonna suggest maybe the display main off, but then I thought about it and remember people complaining about that and how it doesn't fit lore or something. Haha. I'm sure there may have been someone who said "Oh I don't like the chocobo cause of how it was added in. You could just buy it instead of quest for it like in 11."

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There were plenty of chocobo threads... "too easy to get", "it just appears under you...", "no choco emotes?", my personal favorite "why can't i walk with my chocobo?!", "why doesn't the chocobo have better turning animation?". Those were threads that come to mind.

Character re-customization has been confirmed by Yoshi-P himself, but he is not sure if he will allow gender and name changes. When you click on your character to log in you will be brought to the character creation menu most likely.

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Originally Posted by Nullie

Just a quick edit because I'm not sure people read past the first line: This thread is not about confirming if we get to remake our character. This is about when it happens.

So everyone I've been thinking. I'm fairly confident that we will get to remake our characters with the release of v2.0. I can't remember if its been confirmed exactly or not (I'm quite lazy and don't keep up with all the patch notes) so I won't say it will be. However, I was wondering if it is how this should be added into the game or if its even worth thinking/doing something about. I'm not sure if there have been any plans like this, but I just would like to know what would you like to see happen.

Would you like it to just magically happen when you log in one day? How about talking to a certain npc and to be granted a single ticket (maybe the ticket should or shouldn't have an expiration) you can use to take you back to the creation screen. Perhaps there should be a quest involved? Maybe as the new world is being formed so will we? I'm not sure. There could be a nice cutscene or event that could happen. Maybe we can become a spirit (or zombie) for a certain time until we can obtain a new body!? Maybe you wish nothing at all to happen. Just trying to make a conversation. I apologize if this has been discussed already. ; ; I could find nothing of the such.

tl;dr - When v2.0 happens how should we be able to create a new character?

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This is something I have been thinking about; we already know that we are going to get the option to create a new character, but what if that process was part of the new eorzea lore.
Let’s say for instance that you start your new character, choose class/job and wake up in whichever city you chose, instead of jumping right back into your old levels and gear and retainers and such, what if the THM guild was going around checking to see if there were any last rites they needed to perform and they find you, they got word that you did not remember who you were, but because everyone thought you were dead, now it falls on the guild to try to figure out if you’ re really alive or a manifestation of someone before the world was reborn.
This I figure we could do for the first 10 levels, sort of like a re-introduction to the world, learn the new controls, new UI, new mobs, new leveling system, new leves, and such. Whenever the guild sends you on a quest, the goblin footprint/echo event could be instrumental in reliving past major events from this version of the game. So by the time you get to level 10 we would have an idea about the new system set up in the game, and at level 10 you choose to get all your gear and stuff from this version, but if you choose to continue on from level 10, then your reward would be gear, gil, new retainer, at least 3k GC points for each of the GC, exp scrolls or something like that, of course whatever they decide would have to be really good to encourage you to continue on.
This is just an idea, thought I’d mention it.

I really think we should just log in and the game will prompt us to make our new avatar for version 2.0.

But I really like the idea of a CS of our old changing into the new. Maybe the coming of the 7th era would kill us and our soul has to create/ get reincarnated. That would make for a cool CS. Would would be epic if we saw our old avatars in the CS but it would not be needed.

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Originally Posted by Allistar

This is something I have been thinking about; we already know that we are going to get the option to create a new character, but what if that process was part of the new eorzea lore.
Let’s say for instance that you start your new character, choose class/job and wake up in whichever city you chose, instead of jumping right back into your old levels and gear and retainers and such, what if the THM guild was going around checking to see if there were any last rites they needed to perform and they find you, they got word that you did not remember who you were, but because everyone thought you were dead, now it falls on the guild to try to figure out if you’ re really alive or a manifestation of someone before the world was reborn.
This I figure we could do for the first 10 levels, sort of like a re-introduction to the world, learn the new controls, new UI, new mobs, new leveling system, new leves, and such. Whenever the guild sends you on a quest, the goblin footprint/echo event could be instrumental in reliving past major events from this version of the game. So by the time you get to level 10 we would have an idea about the new system set up in the game, and at level 10 you choose to get all your gear and stuff from this version, but if you choose to continue on from level 10, then your reward would be gear, gil, new retainer, at least 3k GC points for each of the GC, exp scrolls or something like that, of course whatever they decide would have to be really good to encourage you to continue on.
This is just an idea, thought I’d mention it.

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This is a pretty cool idea too.

eh making it to "showy" though could turn bad, it does not really need to be explained at all. If it is though, it needs to be done in a light manner.

Let's come up with complex answers for what SE can do! They will certainly have enough time to scope out the work, plan it, delegate the workload, do the workload, test it, correct bugs, add voice acting / text / cut scenes before 2.0. Especially when something this "major" affects soooo many people dot dot dot 15,000ish active players. The people who aren't playing and still have a character probably won't give a damn if it says "remake your crap? yes / no"

Three things I hope for about avatar customization for 2.0.

1. Many, many more options to our looks.
2. Only I can be Miqo'te.
3. Some kind of mirror in your mog house, allowing you to change hairstyle and makeup every now and then. Yes. That would be cool.

Personally, it seems to me like the changes in character appearance are simply due to the new graphics engine being used. The map facelifts are going to be considerably more severe since they're basically ousting the copy/paste redundancy to allow for such large "seamless" maps. But it's not like our characters are also going to have crystals popping out of our pores. (... unless it's an event or enfeeblement or something...)

The need to rehash our appearance is more or less based on the aesthetic preferences of we the players, not some kind of magical face-melting event in the game's story. So I'm just hoping it's an option thrown up there when we log in on a character for the first time after the overhaul.

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

eh making it to "showy" though could turn bad, it does not really need to be explained at all. If it is though, it needs to be done in a light manner.

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I agree. I myself am not up for some big fancy thing, but me myself I don't want to log in and see a "Would you like to recreate your character? Yes / No Are you sure you would like to? Yes / No (In thick red letters now) Once you hit confirm you will no longer be able to return to here. Are you absolutely sure? Yes / No

Me myself, what would like to happen is be able to log in and either receive a ticket or by talking to a certain npc or it just appearing in your inventory. Though I'm not sure if you are full on items how that would work. If it is a npc who gives it to you there can be a short explanation on what the ticket does and how it works. From that point on the ticket has an expiration of so and so amount of days (that ways you can't save it forever) and it would not be able to trade.

The only reason I am against being able to just log in and be given an option is to me that could cause quite a bit of confusion if it is not properly executed. Like I said earlier, there are people who avoid the forums and the site all together because of the way people talk about and handle things around here. People will be out of the loop. There are plenty of people who have quit until 2.0 comes to be. And to just log in one day and see this option here I fear could cause quite a problem. Like Rem said earlier there will be bad feedback no matter what happens, but perhaps it could be kept to a minimum. Not only that, but there could be some people who are still undecided (like myself) and may not even be ready by then. And I would like to be able to continue playing while I still know I can think about the choice.

I mean something like "I was asked to recreate my character when I logged in! I didn't want to start over so I said no. Now I find out that I could have kept all my levels and everything!?!? And I can't do this anymore? S.E. how could you do this to me?"

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Originally Posted by RemVye

Let's come up with complex answers for what SE can do! They will certainly have enough time to scope out the work, plan it, delegate the workload, do the workload, test it, correct bugs, add voice acting / text / cut scenes before 2.0. Especially when something this "major" affects soooo many people dot dot dot 15,000ish active players. The people who aren't playing and still have a character probably won't give a damn if it says "remake your crap? yes / no"

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I can understand how you feel. I can agree with some something simple, though this is still a discussion and I'd like to hear what other people would like. Because I list cutscene and event at the opening post does not mean I want that to happen. I am just throwing ideas around so I don't have a blank post of nothing. Even though you may not agree with them I still would like to hear other peoples opinions are and what they would like to see happen regardless of how far fetched it may be. That can't hurt anything. I still think S.E. will do what they want in the end. However, like I said maybe something will pop up here that may catch their eye. That 1 in a million chance.

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Originally Posted by Seig345

The need to rehash our appearance is more or less based on the aesthetic preferences of we the players, not some kind of magical face-melting event in the game's story. So I'm just hoping it's an option thrown up there when we log in on a character for the first time after the overhaul.

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Can you tell me how you would like to see this executed? I'm not sure what you mean by when you say option. Maybe I'm just having a dumb moment. ; ;

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Originally Posted by Elune

Three things I hope for about avatar customization for 2.0.

1. Many, many more options to our looks.
2. Only I can be Miqo'te.
3. Some kind of mirror in your mog house, allowing you to change hairstyle and makeup every now and then. Yes. That would be cool.

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Is this something you would like added in extra. I actually like the idea of a mirror to change hair style and the such. I actually find the idea of using a barber kind of lame when you can just do your hair yourself!

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Originally Posted by Nullie

The only reason I am against being able to just log in and be given an option is to me that could cause quite a bit of confusion if it is not properly executed. Like I said earlier, there are people who avoid the forums and the site all together because of the way people talk about and handle things around here. People will be out of the loop. There are plenty of people who have quit until 2.0 comes to be. And to just log in one day and see this option here I fear could cause quite a problem. Like Rem said earlier there will be bad feedback no matter what happens, but perhaps it could be kept to a minimum. Not only that, but there could be some people who are still undecided (like myself) and may not even be ready by then. And I would like to be able to continue playing while I still know I can think about the choice.

I mean something like "I was asked to recreate my character when I logged in! I didn't want to start over so I said no. Now I find out that I could have kept all my levels and everything!?!? And I can't do this anymore? S.E. how could you do this to me?"

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That would be fine, but what if you can not log in? what if the changes from old to new are so different, that the old character would not be compatible to even log in until changes are made to it.

I see what you mean about people not understanding, but that honestly would be their fault for not reading update notes.

Now that said it could be worded differently....like....
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"Due to many changes in character design, we have given the ability to redesign your character (you will not lose any progress in this process)"
Yes
NO
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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

That would be fine, but what if you can not log in? what if the changes from old to new are so different, that the old character would not be compatible to even log in until changes are made to it.

I see what you mean about people not understanding, but that honestly would be their fault for not reading update notes.

Now that said it could be worded differently....like....
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"Due to many changes in character design, we have given the ability to redesign your character (you will not lose any progress in this process)"
Yes
NO
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Understandable. If things are not compatible then it would force you to recreate. Not given an option to "would you like to recreate y/n". Am I correct? If this is the case then it should be told to us in advance if done so. This is the whole point is trying to figure out how things should be taken into consideration when this happens.

I would have to disagree with you on saying its peoples faults for not reading update notes. In no where when you purchase the game does it say "You are required to read update notes posted on the lodestone forums. If you take a break from the game for months you are still required to read the update notes. Please visit the Lodestone everyday to be sure you do not miss any update notes or patches that are introduced to the game. Failing to not log on and memorizing the giant wall of text we provide you will be on your shoulders. Thank you."

I like the way you worded it there. This is much better than "Do you wish to recreate. Y/N." But now is this a one time only thing? Should you not be able to play until you're ready to decide? I personally would like to be able to log in and see how the new races look before I'm ready to select a new race or keep the current one.

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Originally Posted by MysteriousRonin

Character re-customization has been confirmed by Yoshi-P himself, but he is not sure if he will allow gender and name changes. When you click on your character to log in you will be brought to the character creation menu most likely.

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Gender change is confirmed. Or we all need to make a new char for the new genders coming with 2.0
Only the name change is still in the air


I think we would be automatically entering the char creation with the char in the old setting, then we can press ok or make/test some changes.