[Suggestion] Weekly challengen log rewards for max levels

Hello,

as someone who has had (almost) all jobs to max level for a while now I want to make the following suggetion:

Currently several challenges offer both (a pity amount of) gil and experience as reward. Once you hit max level (or complete those tasks as a class of max level), you'll miss out on the exp-reward and be left with an amount of gil that allows me to teleport from my doorstep in the Goblet to the Namazu. Once.
Or in other words: Completing those challenges as level 70 character isnt worth it. But some people might still like to do that - either because they dont even have a job that can get the exp (like me) or because they have no intrest in leveling anymore classes.

Thats why I would propose to do something similar to how the roulettes handle those rewards: Replace the exp with tomestones/scrips/crystals when the challenge is completed by a max level character - I would imagine it would also feel like less of a waste for people who do that by accident if they get at least something out of it.

My suggestion would be as follows:

Dungeons - Creation-Tomestones (aka the current uncapped ones) or, if they dont want to change that all the time: Poetics (since they dont seem to be going anywhere)

Guildhests - GC-Seals

FATEs - GC-Seals

Leves - GC-Seals

Crafting - Red Crafting Scrips (assuming, that red scrips are going to work like poetics - aka being the scrips that will stay)

Gathering - Red Gathering Scrips

Chocobo - ??? Maybe Hunting Seals? (I'm trying to keep it to currency mostly)

Commendation - Tomestones (...why are they even a thing in the challenge log?!)

Eureka - Anemos Crystals

I'll be so honest and admit that it was actually Eureka that insipred me to make this suggestion - I couldnt stand to go in there pre-challenge log, but now, with the challenge log, I'm approaching level 20 and actually felt a decent sense of progress by killing the requested number of mobs.
And it got me thinking - the challenge log seems to be there to help people who are progressing (slowly). But we all know that progression doesnt stop at max level! Why should the log stop to be useful beyond recruits appearing in your base and covering not even a fraction of your normal teleport fees? There is stuff, mostly currency, in the game thats useful for max-level progression - the roulettes are already adjusting to that! Why should the challenge log?

This is actually a good idea, but I would throw in an increase in Gil reward as well. 1000 Gil just doesn't cut it. 5 to 6 digit Gil reward would help some more as Gil is useful for us who don't craft to buy people's craft. I would like to add to increase Gil in Fates as well as it only gives around 200 something Gil which is pathetic.

Krakka roots for chocobos or Thav onions. If its maxed level gc seals?

Yes I know krakka is an item but it is used to give chocobo exps. Onions are used to get it up to level 20.

Good idea...but i disagree with the gil bump @Antonio

Its too damn easy to make gil.

But aside from that...yeah lets see this happen.

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Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan

Good idea...but i disagree with the gil bump @Antonio

Its too damn easy to make gil.

But aside from that...yeah lets see this happen.

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Gil is easy if you like to craft and gather. If you don't do that, you stay broke. I find it too boring to waste my sub on something I find boring. We should be able to make Gil while fighting as well.

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Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul

Gil is easy if you like to craft and gather. If you don't do that, you stay broke. I find it too boring to waste my sub on something I find boring. We should be able to make Gil while fighting as well.

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If you think crafting is the only way to make gil....you're doing it wrong.
I can make 1 to 2 mil gil a week...and I don't even touch a market board or Craft for profit....yet.....

Try again. :)

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Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan

If you think crafting is the only way to make gil....you're doing it wrong.
I can make 1 to 2 mil gil a week...and I don't even touch a market board or Craft for profit....yet.....

Try again. :)

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Feel free to explain oh wise one.

I'd really love a challenge log for max level. So many of the current entries are meaningless if you are max level. Even at least something to compensate for the fact that you're no longer earning xp. Extra gil/seals/etc, I'd be happy with that.

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Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan

If you think crafting is the only way to make gil....you're doing it wrong.
I can make 1 to 2 mil gil a week...and I don't even touch a market board or Craft for profit....yet.....

Try again. :)

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i get not having to craft but being able to make 2M not even selling on the Market Board is indeed impressive.

I made millions doing roulette as a tank. I have 50mil right now, and I have a large fc house I donated for, as well as a medium personally. I don't craft other than making low level glamour and dyes.

I only sell Map stuff on the mb.

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Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul

Feel free to explain oh wise one.

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Yea I'm finding it hard to believe a person can make 1 - 2 million gil a week without touching the mb.

Unless they're buying gil :P

the amount of people playing this game with everything maxed out is very very small. too small to change anything in the challenge log to cater to just them.

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Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul

Gil is easy if you like to craft and gather. If you don't do that, you stay broke. I find it too boring to waste my sub on something I find boring. We should be able to make Gil while fighting as well.

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My Leatherworker and Goldsmith desynths are almost maxed out. Only time I craft is purely for the levels from the Namazu beast tribe. Otherwise I desynth all ltw/gsm stuff I can get from dungeons (Which there's a lot of, as well as armourer/weaver), so it's kind of 'going into dungeon, fighting to get loot to break down' for money.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

the amount of people playing this game with everything maxed out is very very small. too small to change anything in the challenge log to cater to just them.

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It wouldnt be only catering to them though - it would also cater to the person who made the choice to only level their tanks and not touch any of the other classes. Basically to everyone whos done leveling - may it be because they've got everything to 70 or because they dont want to level anymore classes.

And as you know, the crafting and gathering challenges offer exp for crafters and gatheres only - we might not require to have all crafters at max-level anymore, but I'm pretty sure most mastercrafters (or even crafters in general) do. Same goes for the gathering part - specially since they've split bot&min from fisher. I dont think its uncommon for people to have both bot&min to max level!

I obviously dont have any data on this, but I wouldnt be surprised if a lot of people are finishing their challenge log without getting any real rewards (those 1k gil dont count...)

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

the amount of people playing this game with everything maxed out is very very small. too small to change anything in the challenge log to cater to just them.

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By that logic you shouldn't be getting tomes for roulettes you've out-leveled. And you're ignoring people who don't want to level up anything else. Of which you'll find are a lot more.

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Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul

I find it too boring to waste my sub on something I find boring. We should be able to make Gil while fighting as well.

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It's called Adventurer in Need. Go with the demand, or stay broke.
Also, Treasure Maps.

Even the roulletes at max level changes the exp reward for tomes, why not for challenge logs too?

Most my alt jobs already have mostly 330 gear except for weapons. And the only reason they don't is I'm too lazy to run things for coins for said weapons for jobs I rarely play.
Point being getting uncapped tomes is easy really. I did this without even trying really. I'll probably worry about weapons when I go to level them again.

This would be awesome. But it's a no from me to increased gil rewards. The gil you get by playing the game easily covers melds, repairs and teleports.

If you want to buy something other players have made or looted, then make or loot something other people want in order to make enough money. It's possible to make tens of millions without crafting. I sell materia, vendor dyes for fashion report, materials bought with tomes, materials bought with GC seals, things from ventures, loot from maps, loot from WT books, primal materials and dungeon drops. Materia transmutation can bring extra profit sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul

Gil is easy if you like to craft and gather. If you don't do that, you stay broke. I find it too boring to waste my sub on something I find boring. We should be able to make Gil while fighting as well.

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There are plenty of way to make gils in FFXIV outside of crafting and gathering.


- Roulettes bonus
- Challege log
- Greed every piece of gear, trade for GC seals, buy and sell valuable materials
- Dungeons (killing mobs, selling items dropped from chests and mobs/materia dropped from lvl70 dungeons/sell minions)
- Adventurer in need bonus from leveling/alliance/NM raid roulette - Rank V & VI materias
- Hunting : can buy materials and materia as well or even drop some from A rank lvl 70
- Khloe if lucky, can buy materia
- Tomestone : materials needeed for this current patch craft
- Desynth (only need lvl30 crafter to do it and doesn't involve crafting at all)
- Uznair & stuff (treasure maps)
- Sending your retainer to get some mobs materials and sell them (every hour)
- Beasts tribes : materials/dye
- Buy and resell from npc (yes, that works, some items can be bought to npc for 10 gils and sold for 5000 gils sometimes, you only need to find out).
- Deep dungeon/diadem : materia (but hard to queue for it nowadays)

Even some of the lowest level materials are still valuable.


I must forget some things but, here is a big picture.
All my crafters and gatherer classes are lvl70. But even so, I don't craft or gather and manage to earn gil pretty easily by doing what I mentionned in the list.
A lot of people still think that you must absolutely need to be a crafter or gatherer to earn gil while it's not true. Yes, of course, they'll probably be able to earn massive amount of gils thanks to rare crafted items, but with everything i've listed, you still have several way to earn gils regulary.