There’s so much more then I thought!

Wow! I just randomly stumbled upon this site, and I love it. This really seems to offer a better perspective to how other people view the game. I am glad I found somewhere I can share and see opinions. I enjoy the game and love playing it! Nice to meet you all!

I give you a week.

I uh..... hope I last longer then that lol

So pure. So innocent.

Try not to get jaded from the forums. XD While the forums are pretty cool, I don't think it really reflects how people are in servers (at least from my experience, there's a lot less complaining/negativity overall in game). But! I'm glad you're excited to stumble upon the forums. xD Welcome~

Take this place with a grain of salt. lots of Salty people, but also lots of good info.

Cheers

Just wait to see the apocalypse when a new mogstation item is added. :p
But yeah, the forums are fun to lurk at.

Guess OP is new? I've been around since 2013 and there is not a lot to do. But if you're new i can see where you coming from.

Been around lurking myself since 2015, but I only recently started playing seriously.
Welcome to the forums :)

let the darkness flow through you...

Welcome,enjoy and though it may seem every thread has an argument about x or y going on, people do love the game(atleast I'd like to think so) and it comes from a good place. Don't let it beat you into submission, some people just need a place to vent and this is it.
There is always the occasional laugh to be had.

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Originally Posted by LeonTrifang

Wow! I just randomly stumbled upon this site, and I love it. This really seems to offer a better perspective to how other people view the game. I am glad I found somewhere I can share and see opinions. I enjoy the game and love playing it! Nice to meet you all!

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Take everything you read here...with a very....very..generous...helping of salt.

Just because people say it is...doesn't necessarily mean it's good. (And yes i confess I'm the anti-majority most times here - yet people constantly smile at me and nod in private. ^_^;)

xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KquFZYi6L0

Oh.. my sweet summer child..

Welcome to the forums! Try to take things with a grain of salt. These aren't entirely representative of the differences you'll find on individual servers or data centers. But there are some interesting topics sometimes!

First MMO? pretty much every main one has a website for info/news/updates/forums. Welcome to one of the wastelands of the internet. Honestly come to lodestone for the announcements of events, patch notes, and useful stuff so you can stay in the know and be informed about the game, don't spend a lot of time here, mostly just the voices of the noisy minority but it is fun to listen to people cry an insane amount about absolutely nothing.

Thank you everyone for the warm welcome! It’s very nice to meet you all!

A few things you should know:

1). There's an absurdly low limit as to how many characters you can type normally (1,000!). You can edit to bypass this.

2). There's an absurdly low and very arbitrary limit as to how many "posts per day" you can make, though there's no counters anywhere that tell you this and there's no way of knowing when you'll hit your limit (which is just stupid). You can be in the middle of a conversation and receive that dreaded "You are either not high enough level or you have reached your posting limit" error. Then, it's a crapshoot as to how long you must wait before posting again and likely you'll hit the limit again after 2-3 posts. It's really weird and I don't even think the system works properly because it is so erratic. I have personally verified that it is NOT JP midnight reset.

3). Don't even bother trying to talk about casual content -- you'll get savage raiders popping in telling you how to play your job for savage raiding even if you state you're not doing savage raiding. You either go hardcore or you don't go at all according to some of these people.

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3). Don't even bother trying to talk about casual content -- you'll get savage raiders popping in telling you how to play your job for savage raiding even if you state you're not doing savage raiding. You either go hardcore or you don't go at all according to some of these people.

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Not all Savage raiders act that way, just like not all casual players act with the "You don't pay my sub!" mentality. I don't think this stereotypical point was ever needed and at best, you're generalizing and sectioning off a large group of players just because you have a personal spite with them. Very unfriendly-like.

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Not all Savage raiders act that way, just like not all casual players act with the "You don't pay my sub!" mentality. I don't think this stereotypical point was ever needed and at best, you're generalizing and sectioning off a large group of players just because you have a personal spite with them. Very unfriendly-like.

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I never once said all Savage Raiders act like that.

I said "don't talk about casual content or you'll get Savage Raiders who act like that".

There's a difference.

I know a few Savage Raiders and they're cool people. However, there ARE those Savage Raiders here on these forums that will talk like that. Don't act like they don't exist; they very much do. Even if they are a vocal minority.

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I never once said all Savage Raiders act like that.

I said "don't talk about casual content or you'll get Savage Raiders who act like that".

There's a difference.

I know a few Savage Raiders and they're cool people. However, there ARE those Savage Raiders here on these forums that will talk like that. Don't act like they don't exist; they very much do. Even if they are a vocal minority.

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You didn't have to say all because you never really tried to differiente in the first place. You basically just told some poor new user on the forums to not even bother talking about anything casual because and I quote from you, "3). Don't even bother trying to talk about casual content -- you'll get savage raiders popping in telling you how to play your job for savage raiding even if you state you're not doing savage raiding."

In what part of this context did you not mean all raiders then? I mean, you could have said "you'll get SOME savage raiders" and that would have been fine, but you didn't. I realize it's arguing semantics and all, but you kind of did generalize or, at least in the context of your opening statement, point in the direction that you're looking to group all raiders as opposed towards the few that do. In which case, what does it even matter and why did you need to make that point anyways?

I see it less as solid advice towards a newbie poster and more or less along the lines of personal spite being directed towards the people you don't agree with mostly.

/shrugs

L-Let’s not fight please. All opinions and views are valid.

It really is semantics like you say.

And it wasn't meant to be "spite with people disagree with", but more of a warning of simple fact: if you want to talk about casual play, you will get SOME Savage Raiders, or perhaps I could word it like this: You could get people who are savage raiders who will come into your thread or your conversation and talk like that.

Either way, I've had it happen many times here, and the people who do this stuff are almost always those who also Savage Raid.

@LeonTrifang:

Not fighting, Sigma and I just have differing opinions on a point.

You'll find that there are many people here, with many differing opinions. The difference between a fight and differing opinions is that the latter doesn't take anything personal. I got nothing against the person who was concerned about how I worded it. And I've not seen anything that tells me that he has anything against me. He was expressing a concern, and yeah I kinda get what he's getting at, though I think one would have to stretch pretty far to make that leap. *shrug* Either way, no hard feelings that I know of.

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It really is semantics like you say.

And it wasn't meant to be "spite with people disagree with", but more of a warning of simple fact: if you want to talk about casual play, you will get SOME Savage Raiders, or perhaps I could word it like this: You could get people who are savage raiders who will come into your thread or your conversation and talk like that.

Either way, I've had it happen many times here, and the people who do this stuff are almost always those who also Savage Raid.

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Correct, which is why I admitted it firsthand it's really just semantics. Just, I don't know, the way it came off at first read and glance, at least to me, was with the undertones of either spite, pettiness, or resentment towards someone or specific someone(s). Now, whether you meant it that way outright or not, I'd never really know without actually talking about it like what we're doing right now actually. But, that was my first impression and take on it, and perhaps sometimes I read too much into or between the lines of words said myself.

Tones are almost impossible to convey properly through text on forums usually.

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L-Let’s not fight please. All opinions and views are valid.

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As I said it may seem every thread has an argument about x or y.... xD
Welcome to the forums

Hi, enjoy your stay, hope you enjoy pointless semantic arguments and the most enlightening "NO U" style "debates" that MMO forums have to offer.