Can We Have Tail Armor Back?

It's not that much of a big deal Yoshi P. But tail armor for aaaaaaall those long neglected armor pieces you and SE made haven't gone unoticed. It'd be cool if my tail was protected too ya know, my tail is just as important as the rest of my body.

Besides, a cat without a tail looses all sense of balance, or so the wise tale says. Didn't you guys add tail armor back then?

Of course some armor does still have tail armor but it's not realistic enough. It leaves the tail in a static motion or crams it into an impossible fit.
Ya'll know the armors I'm talking about.

Anyway that's all I wanted to say, I suppose. Have a good one!

Please no.

From what I know there was one armored tail which everyone mocked and called it a BDSM suit. They never did it again. I think it was the Daystar set?

I thought people called these 'tail condoms' back when it was a thing?

I wasn't playing at that point.

Either way, as someone who has a tail I would prefer it to not be sheathed in armor but if it was only a few sets I don't see the harm. I don't think this will be a widely supported request, though.

I don't want anything covering the tail, but I'd prefer it if they'd stop being lazy with the design of gear where the tail is concerned. If you look at older gear designs (or even the underwear/smallclothes) they used to design gear around them. Nowadays they just clip through whatevers in the way. Armors, capes, etc.

I remember seeing this in Google, when we were discussing the same thing a couple of weeks ago with a group of friends.

http://i.imgur.com/E8kxriw.jpg

Obviously from 1.0.

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Originally Posted by basketofseals

From what I know there was one armored tail which everyone mocked and called it a BDSM suit. They never did it again. I think it was the Daystar set?

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If it's the armour I'm thinking of it looks horrendous. It makes the tail rigidly point upwards. It looks so stupid because the tail is literally unmoving.

can we have tail-holes on gear back first please?

There was "artifact" set for DRG in HW would armor the tail. Well looking at the sprite I think more like it replaced the tail much in the way the wolf costume did.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

If it's the armour I'm thinking of it looks horrendous. It makes the tail rigidly point upwards. It looks so stupid because the tail is literally unmoving.

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I know exactly the armor you're talking about, i think. That BLM magician like armor with the toto right? The tail is just bad. That is tail "armor" i don't want

No thanks, I would hate this. I like looking at my tail, I don't want it covered in some weird armor, making it a default shape and size like they do with hats that have ear pockets.

plz no i like the look of my tail. If anything you should be asking for all tails to have highlights that match our hair.

http://pictures-of-cats.org/wp-conte...ng-no-tail.jpg

Yes, we need tail protection, as long as the display can be toggled off just like /visor does for head pieces!...


No one wants a poor kitty without a tail, that'd be just cruel and it could happen during combat!...

fine with tail protection < as a former cat and demon > as long as they fix the jester hook tail

Funny. As a long-ear, I find all the gear with specially-sculpted ears to be a bit ridiculous. I'm sure it'd be pretty uncomfortable smashing those ears into a normal helm or what have you, but the extra bits seem like they're just waiting to get caught on something.

Can we have armor with tail holes that doesn't clip all the time. Also can we have gear where hair and ears don't clip and look weird when wearing it.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Funny. As a long-ear, I find all the gear with specially-sculpted ears to be a bit ridiculous. I'm sure it'd be pretty uncomfortable smashing those ears into a normal helm or what have you, but the extra bits seem like they're just waiting to get caught on something.

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Yeah I think so too. It also looks like it would be quite difficult to get ears into those rather narrow slots as they put the helmet on? Realistically I feel like the whole helmet would need to be shaped differently with more of a 'wing' design to give a larger space for the ears to sit in.

It does bug me how none of the newer armor models have modifications to accommodate tails.

Even just the little things like the stitching around the tail holes or the little bow on the swimsuits do a lot to make it aesthetically pleasing.

No thanks understand some armor with remove tail like Af2 Drg and evenstar set
But no need to put armor on them

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Originally Posted by Amaya-Asha

plz no i like the look of my tail. If anything you should be asking for all tails to have highlights that match our hair.

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That's not what I should be asking, that's what you should be asking not me. I would like armor tails or something that resembles that our tail isn't being ignored.

What you're asking is, ignore the clipping and lack of tail treatment on almost all armors in favor of highlights. That sounds liie a different thread than this one

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Originally Posted by Duskane

No thanks understand some armor with remove tail like Af2 Drg and evenstar set
But no need to put armor on them

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I think alot of people here have a one track mind on what an armor tail would be or look like.

It doesn't have to be fully covered. Just aestheticly pleasing that matches the armor.

For instance. If you were to wear something like Dragoon armor it would be like spiking bracelets with your tail tip covered by a dragon tip piercing.

Idk about you but that sounds cool to me.

Just remember that during 1.0 the tail size was fixed.
To have tail armor back like it was on the Darklight tank gear (1.x version) mean to be ok with the tail will have another size while armored (a fixed standard size for all Miqo'te and Au Ra of the same tribe)

I wouldn't mind tail armor, if done properly (none of that boner tail from the Evenstar caster set)... And only on armor that actually justifies having it...

The old armors that count as both Head and Chest/Legs and Feet, being a good example where it wouldn't look out of place.

People seem to be thinking armored tail = a tail fully encased in armor like a worm in a metal tube. What I believe OP is suggesting is similar to that 1.0 screenshot earlier in the thread. A set of plate or leather armor can have the tail partially covered to show some protection (and attention to friggin detail like we used to have) without it looking odd. The Evenstar set was an abomination that had to have been a joke by the art team for how stupid it looked. I would definitely like this little detail to come back into future designs but I'm doubtful it'll happen.

https://i.imgur.com/aSsqxP1.png

You're welcome.

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Originally Posted by basketofseals

From what I know there was one armored tail which everyone mocked and called it a BDSM suit. They never did it again. I think it was the Daystar set?

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The evenstar set of casting.

They never bothered to animate the tail on the item so it was in this static pointing upward pose. It's the same on Au Ra, in that it gives them a miqo'te tail that just shoots straight upward.

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Originally Posted by GunksFoy

https://i.imgur.com/aSsqxP1.png

You're welcome.

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Please never again embarrass yourselves or the player base again SE with horribly and tastelessly designed tail erection armor. Good Lord!!..just think a bit before designing..its isnt that difficult ^^

If you are an Au Ra you kind of already got tail armor since you have scales.

Isn't a cats tail vestigial prehensile, wouldn't they just wrap it around their waist or something that shows they have common sense, like placing the tail under the long skirt not through it.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Isn't a cats tail vestigial, wouldn't they just wrap it around their waist or something that shows they have common sense, like olacung the tail under the long skirt not through it.

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Uh... no.

It's used for balance. You cut the tail off a cat (hypothetically) and they'll have to relearn how to walk and balance without it.

More options is always a good thing in my book, +1 for me.

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Originally Posted by Averax

Uh... no.

It's used for balance. You cut the tail off a cat (hypothetically) and they'll have to relearn how to walk and balance without it.

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What about Manx cats? no tail.

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Originally Posted by GunksFoy

What about Manx cats? no tail.

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They can still have a tail, it's just a little stub which is a naturally occurring genetic mutation within the breed itself similar to the Schnauzer dog breed where they're just little "nubs", but they definitely still qualify as tails. Some can be completely tailless though as you had said earlier.

However, honestly speaking, the tail doesn't entirely control the balance of a cat either as even ones with tails can be extremely non-graceful. I think that's a false idea that the tail of a cat does more to control their grace and balance than their actual brain does.

I've owned cats all of my life, the tail helps, but in no way defines a cat's balance, they can still fall off objects and do stupid things. I have one with a brain deficiency problem actually that affects his motor capabilities, he still has a very nice long tail, unfortunately, that tail is not going to save him from falling off the bed like the doofus he is nor stop him from falling over as he walks. Tails are meant to help them balance on higher places mostly and less for walking/daily routines.

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Originally Posted by Averax

Uh... no.

It's used for balance. You cut the tail off a cat (hypothetically) and they'll have to relearn how to walk and balance without it.

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I mixed up my words, I meant prehensile, like acting as an additional limb. Basically, I was indicating that is Miqo'tes were real, they would move their tails to more sensible locations around their bodies; like the saiyans from DBZ. Though if Miqo'te are meat to mimic regular humans in everything but a few key features, their tails would be vestigial, like "ours" lol.

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Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra

However, honestly speaking, the tail doesn't entirely control the balance of a cat either as even ones with tails can be extremely non-graceful. I think that's a false idea that the tail of a cat does more to control their grace and balance than their actual brain does.

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The tail is more like that pole tightrope walkers use to balance themselves, it can be done without it but the pole/tail makes it easier.

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Originally Posted by SigmaOZ

Yes, we need tail protection, as long as the display can be toggled off just like /visor does for head pieces!...


No one wants a poor kitty without a tail, that'd be just cruel and it could happen during combat!...

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Ok if it had a toggle option then I think I will agree that way those that don’t want it won’t use it and those that do will it will add some customisability

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Originally Posted by Eloah

The tail is more like that pole tightrope walkers use to balance themselves, it can be done without it but the pole/tail makes it easier.

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Exactly. The tail is meant to help them, as you said. It's a tool and extension of their bodies. A cat can still walk and survive with or without it since the Manx is a breed that does not require or always have a long tail. They can have a partial, stub, or none at all. Not to mention, you'll find strays with shortened or injured tails and they're fine in terms of movement. The only time I've legitimately seen cats needing to relearn how to walk through therapy is when an actual leg is missing or needs to be amputated in some way and even so, some are born without one or both of their front or back legs due to a genetic disease or defect. They find ways to continue moving. Animals can be about as determined and ambitious as human beings sometimes.

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Originally Posted by GunksFoy

https://i.imgur.com/aSsqxP1.png

You're welcome.

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No
Both the sarcasm and this pic are not welcome. This is something I, a few others, do not want.

So no.

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Originally Posted by SilverObi

People seem to be thinking armored tail = a tail fully encased in armor like a worm in a metal tube. What I believe OP is suggesting is similar to that 1.0 screenshot earlier in the thread. A set of plate or leather armor can have the tail partially covered to show some protection (and attention to friggin detail like we used to have) without it looking odd. The Evenstar set was an abomination that had to have been a joke by the art team for how stupid it looked. I would definitely like this little detail to come back into future designs but I'm doubtful it'll happen.

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This one has the right of it, very well said. This is my intention.
It doesn't have to look like we're wearing some kinda gimp suit on our tail.
The comments here only show me how, limited your imaginations are, but she gets it

Au Ra tails might be tougher, and scalier, but we need tail armor too. :3