Mobile Phone Companion App

My personal issue with this Phone Companion App is NOT the Kupo Nuts, the Coins, the Limited features for a sub fee that is nearly half of the in game sub or even that you have to pay the $5 sub to be able to pay the $2 sub for an additional retainer. I would prefer it if the retainer was part of the $5 but as a consumer it is ultimately up to me if I want to pay for this or not.

HOWEVER, my issue is just the 1 and a very simple one at that. The doubling of the Chocobo Saddlebag. For YEARS the play base has requested inventory increases, if you want to do everything the game offers you will need it. The base inventory was simply not enough if you were playing all the combat classes, gathering and crafting professions.

For YEARS SE gave us excuses to why they could not increase inventory, and some were pretty understandable due to the limitations of the PS3 and server side issues.

We finally get our wish and inventory is increased in Stormblood and they implement Chocobo Saddlebags which was a very nice bonus. With their statement in the patch notes and live letter they would be testing the waters and increase inventory size based on community feed back and server end load. Makes perfect sense and perfectly acceptable and reasonable.

Then we get this thing, the Mobile Phone Companion app. For an additional $5 a month you can DOUBLE the Chocobo Saddlebag from 70 slots to 140! slots. An IN GAME feature that is available in every B2P, P2P and even some F2P games is costing us additional real world money to be used

4 examples of this would be; World of Warcraft, Rift, Wildstar and Guild Wars. Each providing a base inventory which you are able to expand IN GAME with IN GAME currency buy purchasing or crafting larger bags.

The fact that we were told for so long that SE could not do it for reason X, Y and Z for them to only turn around and say well we COULD do it but it will cost you on top of what you are already paying us each month.

The point of a Subscription is so that changes like this are added to the game WITH OUT you paying more for them. Inventory space in a subscription game is NOT something you should have to pay an additional fee on top of your monthly fee to get.

They obviously have the ability to increase the Chocobo Saddlebag, they have the resources they have the capability but in my personal opinion to make the Companion App look more fuller and appetizing they are putting a feature into it that we should have as subscription players.

If you tell us for years "We can not do it because X" and then "We were able to finally do it and depending on the server and community we will increase it" to "We can actually do it but you need to pay for it" is just a slap in the face to the player base. Some who pay upwards of $27.99 for a subscription.

If you purchase everything that adds onto your subscription with the high end sub of $13.99 that brings the total of this games monthly sub to a staggering $34.99. That is more than some peoples internet bills, that as far as I know is the highest subscription to a game that I personally know of at a total of $419.88 a year. I personally do not see our investment being put back into the game especially for a company as large as SE who has their hand in everything these days from MMOs, Mobile Games, Console Games, Merchandise, Cafes and even Movie Licenses.

As far as I can tell and I have played a many of MMOs, Free, Buy to play, and Subscription in my life time. This game has the largest selection of Micro transactions of any Subscription model I have ever seen.

TLDR; In game inventory space should be not a micro transaction, it is part of the game it should be part of the subscription fee that we all pay for and it feels like SE is telling us the amount we currently pay them for these basic features is not enough and we owe them more money if we want them.

You can edit your first post to get around the 1k limit.

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Originally Posted by FateOdin

The point of a Subscription is so that changes like this are added to the game WITH OUT you paying more for them. Inventory space in a subscription game is NOT something you should have to pay an additional fee on top of your monthly fee to get.

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you can edit your main post to fit everything in.

also this point is wrong you pay a sub fee to log in aka it's a scam like everything else.

Clean out your closet.

You're paying $5 to get 70 extra Saddlebag slots, when you could pay $2 with a retainer to get 175 more inventory slots. The paying version of the app alone is a rip-off.

The game gives you 980 inventory slots for free.

Plus 200 glamour item slots, and space for furniture = to the house size you own. 300 for me, and 30 outdoor spots. So I have 1510 inventory slots with the base subscription. What game gives you that much inventory space?

Even if you go off just character inventory its 630 inventory slots. with armory chest, character inventory, and saddlebag.

My Sub is 72.99 per 6 Months, because I have 2 extra retainers so I can have the 3 gatherers and a battle class. I could be at 2 retainers and have no inventory issues.

In spite of it not being the usual topic matter....you just had to start yet an another bloody thread.

Sigh.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

What game gives you that much inventory space?

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If we're going to be including things that save inventory slots (house furnishing, glamour dresser), then WoW would have:

• 136 inventory slots (using 30 slot bags)
• 240 bank slots (using 30 slot bags)
• 98 material bank slots
• 160 void storage slots.

Then there's the stuff that used to go into the inventory, but were moved to collections

• 448 toys (flavour items, like ones that turn you into a different race for a short time)
• 83 heirloom items (gear that scales with level)
• 6517 gear/weapon appearances (amount varying based on class)

For a total of 7682.

so why are we paying for inventory space again?

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Originally Posted by XenoCranel

so why are we paying for inventory space again?

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Because the idea of paying for more inventory space via the retainers has been a thing since the development and first inception of the Mogstation, but, it's easier to just focus on a really bad idea and design for a mobile app and complain about that instead when this isn't the first time things like this have happened. Although, people tend to like to ignore that paying for more retainers existed long before the mobile app did sometimes.

I'm quite surprised how much information people seem to have about the app without it being out yet or with any of the pricing and details actually confirmed.

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Originally Posted by Colino

I'm quite surprised how much information people seem to have about the app without it being out yet or with any of the pricing and details actually confirmed.

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So far people have been discussing what SE has given us as details so I don't really understand where this is coming from. The app doesn't need to be out in order for us to discuss what SE has already announced as official details.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

The game gives you 980 inventory slots for free.

Plus 200 glamour item slots, and space for furniture = to the house size you own. 300 for me, and 30 outdoor spots. So I have 1510 inventory slots with the base subscription. What game gives you that much inventory space?

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To be fair the developers haven't exactly been known to make processes that shrink inventory bloat. Recipes that take 6 ingredients. Tons of different currencies that are inventory items, even AFTER the currency tab was added. Lots of items that can't be placed in the armoire (pretty much anything from mog station or special events).

After 5 years that limited inventory space, while seeming infinite at the start, gets small REALLY quick.

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Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra

this isn't the first time things like this have happened. Although, people tend to like to ignore that paying for more retainers existed long before the mobile app did sometimes.

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As has been said before, this is a pretty bad deal for the extra inventory space. Two extra retainers is cheaper than the 70 extra chocobo bag slots. MB access is in game. About the only thing the premium app does is allow you to manage retainer inventory better, something that should have absolutely been in game.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

To be fair the developers haven't exactly been known to make processes that shrink inventory bloat. Recipes that take 6 ingredients. Tons of different currencies that are inventory items, even AFTER the currency tab was added. Lots of items that can't be placed in the armoire (pretty much anything from mog station or special events).

After 5 years that limited inventory space, while seeming infinite at the start, gets small REALLY quick.

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I dont really horde mats, I just gather as needed, much easier on the inventory. And they recently updated the armoire to take non cash shop event items, like the promotion stuff from the fanfests and the maid/butler outfits and the items associated with those events.

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Originally Posted by Colino

I'm quite surprised how much information people seem to have about the app without it being out yet or with any of the pricing and details actually confirmed.

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It's not hard to put the pieces of the puzzle together. We know a lot about it already and it's been outright stated that the feature's unique currency will be used for other things in the future. That suggests that this has been in the works for a while and that no feedback will be taken into account that's negative. It hasn't even been officially addressed despite being a hot topic on this forum since the original announcement.

Does anyone have a link on what is in this app that isn't screenshots of info in Japanese? I have yet to find anything (unless I'm looking in the wrong places). So far it's second hand info to me.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

As has been said before, this is a pretty bad deal for the extra inventory space. Two extra retainers is cheaper than the 70 extra chocobo bag slots. MB access is in game. About the only thing the premium app does is allow you to manage retainer inventory better, something that should have absolutely been in game.

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I know, I was the one who suggested it earlier in the thread that it was an extremely poor deal and bad design flaw. I just think it's a bit of a stretch for people to start flailing about the mobile app locking inventory space behind a $5 fee, when in hindsight retainers have been doing that with a $2 fee for the longest of times now, way longer than before the app was even conceived. However, by that perspective alone, the app should be dead in the water upon arrival because anyone can clearly see that paying $2 as opposed to $5, you're obviously getting more bang for your buck. You are right in that retainer inventory management should have been in-game from the get-go, honestly, so should extra inventory space in that regard entirely. But, it is what it is right now and we're at the point where it's not going to change because it's already too late in that sense. The app does everything that I can already do from the comforts of my home and honestly speaking, isn't worth the free version in that regard.

Really, the mobile app was designed for people that can't be separated from the game or don't want to be for very long. It's a case of the Patient VS the Impatient. It'll be used by people who are either bored and/or need to be connected to XIV during the time that they can't log in as opposed towards the people who are like "Meh. It can wait until I get home later". That's what the whole app speaks to me about.

You have the portion of the people who can't wait until they can log in from their PC or PS4 to check their retainers, sell/buy items, chat with friends, etc., and then you have the other side of the fence that don't need to feel connected to the game 24/7. It's all personal preference and I only see like...a small, maybe even half of the playerbase consecutively using it while everyone else ignores it for the most part. It all depends on what "other stuff" they start adding to it possibly and if it concerns buying/selling houses? Welllll....I don't know if we really want to go down that road...

As long as some of the playerbase is happy about this announcement and willing to pay for it's features, it's not a bad decision or poor design, is it? There's no need to be so self centered, leave people to their kuponuts and app in peace. This entire game does not revolve around you, OP.

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Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

Does anyone have a link on what is in this app that isn't screenshots of info in Japanese? I have yet to find anything (unless I'm looking in the wrong places). So far it's second hand info to me.

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Those slides are the only ones however the english written on them are official translations provided by SE. They can be viewed in the Live letter digest found here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/364590

I don’t mind the app at all. I won’t be paying as don’t need any of the extras but from talking with Jp friends, these kind of things are the norm there. So the JP community don’t mind and are used to paying for this kind of app etc. I showed my friends our threads here and they were shocked at western attitude XD so I bet SE are also