Could FFXIV Version 2.0 take place in a parallel world?

I'm in agreement with those who suggest that the Wandering Minstrel NPC who gives you your goobbue mount is an in-game representation of Yoshi-P. (For more information about that, see this thread.)

Anyway, I happened to be passing Red Rooster Stead today, and I decided to talk to Wandering Minstrel Yoshi-P one more time. This is what he says.

"Many a night, when I stare up into the boundless heavens, I will oft catch a glimpse of a world not quite our own...
Different, yet eerily similar. Is this the Void, or is it something else?

I suppose time will tell..."

Now, maybe Yoshi's just making a vague reference to the upcoming world redesign (which likely has to do with an impending destructive event, but I don't want to enter too far into spoiler territory), and the rest is just flavor text. But just for fun, let's pretend that he's actually hinting that the 2.0 world--with its Crystal Tower, Garlean base in Northern Thanalan, ancient tower in the middle of a lake in Upper La Noscea, and time-worn forest ruins--really is a kind of parallel world. I mean, a destructive event by itself could explain a world full of craters and destroyed cities, but the concept art that was delivered to us depicts all sorts of never-before-seen structures as well. And for the most part, they don't seem to be newly built.

In any event, this is a fantasy game, so there are all sorts of out-there ways for a story/lore team to explain a massive map redesign. There's an excellent chance that my guess is completely off the mark. BUT... I do know one other guy who totally buys into what I'm saying here.

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Plans for a History Channel documentary are already in the works.

Interesting take on things. I hadn't thought of that, but I can certainly see it as a possibility.

Huh..Never thought about it that way.

Although, I'm still going to go with the more of the "hinting that the change that is about to come" scenario. Him looking into the sky and seeing a slightly different world screams "THAT THING IN THE SKY IS GONNA CHANGE THE WORLD!" (To me, at least)

Although, a parallel world would be just as viable.. But due to the interviews and such, I would lean towards the latter opinion.

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Originally Posted by Cyan

Huh..Never thought about it that way.

Although, I'm still going to go with the more of the "hinting that the change that is about to come" scenario. Him looking into the sky and seeing a slightly different world screams "THAT THING IN THE SKY IS GONNA CHANGE THE WORLD!" (To me, at least)

Although, a parallel world would be just as viable.. But due to the interviews and such, I would lean towards the latter opinion.

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Yeah, I also think that that thing in the sky is definitely going to change the world. :) However, I'm wondering if there's more to it than just destruction.

But like I said, this is History Channel crazy hair guy territory. ;)

Given how much this game nods to FF's of the past, i think it is a fair chance we'll be going to that red moon in the sky eventually.

I thought he was referring to Dalamud coming ever closer to whatever world we are currently on. There has been talk about the red planet, next to the moon, getting bigger and bigger. I don't think it means Dalamud is going to crash into the planet because the huge tree thing that come out of the ground seems to be the even which changes the maps (see ver 2.0 announcement) .

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Originally Posted by Supergroovegear

I thought he was referring to Dalamud coming ever closer to whatever world we are currently on. There has been talk about the red planet, next to the moon, getting bigger and bigger. I don't think it means Dalamud is going to crash into the planet because the huge tree thing that come out of the ground seems to be the even which changes the maps (see ver 2.0 announcement) .

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i was wondering about that three thing as well, maybe its something from within the earth that got ripped out by dalamuds gravitational pull as is came closer, it also could be that the realm is bracing itself for the impact and trying to "catch" it with this structure.

Aliens come from Dalamud and land their 'tree-like' spaceship, which just so happens to change Eorzea forever.

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Originally Posted by Yumi_Hibiki

it also could be that the realm is bracing itself for the impact and trying to "catch" it with this structure.

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"Swamp... Mountain... Ocean... Valley... The four who are there..."

Could also be like the FF were you went to the moon. Would be sweet to have a whole new zone like that.

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Originally Posted by Supergroovegear

I don't think it means Dalamud is going to crash into the planet because the huge tree thing that come out of the ground seems to be the even which changes the maps (see ver 2.0 announcement) .

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I'm pretty sure it will, just look at Silvertear Falls, one Garlean Fortress dropped there and the Aetheryte veins happily exploded and tore through the earth.

Now imagine a moon falling on Eorzea...

I don't think it takes place in a parallel dimension but I think it does use a parallel dimension (of some sort) as a way to change the world.

well wouldent it be funny if they did a trailer reveal playing distant worlds theme only to find the world the bard talks about that looks simalair but not. being vanadeil?

i certainly wouldent mind a portal thats takes to a future vanadeil one that hasent or cant be seen from the xi story.

i know it wont happen but im hopeing one day they will make a expansion that takes us back to vanadeil.

He just didn't know how to explain his vision, something like a Nostradamus prophecy. I think the Wandering Minstrel is just talking about how the world is going to change in the future.

That would be too FFV/FFIX/FFXI like, so it's a bad idea sadly since XIV isn't allowed to nod to previous games in the series.

Serious note though, it would be pretty interesting if it happens since FFIX and FFV did it pretty well, especially when the worlds merged (FFV) so they have quite a bit of breathing room. XI did it well with Abyssea because that storyline is while their vana'diel resembled ours it was clearly a different dimension, one where we died at the end of CoP and Al`taieu never slipped out of "present" reality and still on the moon.

There's a ton of possibility with the "parallel world" approach and SE has proven they could make it flow within a timeline and still be coherent quite well.

hmm, maybe.
maybe the distant plot for an expansion?

I had posted a while ago on a character recreation thread something similar. I thought maybe the lore would go the route of a major destructive force causing some sort of rip or portal which when we transported from our current game into 2.0's game world we would be given the option to redesign as a new race. However they could make it a one time thing by claiming the radiation from such a transference would be too harmful to the body to do it again or possibly just a one time transfer from one world to the other. Could work the same way here with a bunch of new buildings/events/stuff appearing through the same rip or portal.

Can't wait to see what they do!

I have no clue I just want to be able to play the new story line when it's available and see what happens... hell I might even make a new character just to see the opening of it when you first start the game...

I was looking over the Ver. 2.0 announcements as well and thinking about the Dalamud Ramifications. So, here's my take:

1. Dalamud is successfully crashed into Eorzea, causing a period of darkness (say, 1 or 2 generations), and we time skip forward. This would explain how they said we may be able to re-make our characters (think sons or daughters of our current characters). The "Tree" things are actually shards of Dalamud that have been overrun by the flora of the planet.

2. Something causes Dalamud to be repelled, but also causes the Geological deformations in Eorzea. For this scenario, My guess would be that the Eikons band together to fight off the Dalamud meteor in some way, but linking it to the geological deformations is a bit tougher. Maybe some sort of Aether "cannon" (not literally) that is controlled by the Eikons in order to prevent Meteor.

3. Something else entirely, because you never know when it comes to plot twists! ^_^

...Honestly, I like scenario 1 the best. Dalamud crashes into Eorzea in fragments, the Empire "wins" but at a significant cost to themselves. Then we have the time skip, allowing people to re-imagine their characters utilizing the 2.0 game engine, and the time skip will also allow them to explain any changes to civilization (Gridania and the Black Shroud changing, etc.).
As for the OP alternate universe theory, it's interesting but unlikely given the devs have so much invested in the current lore of the 12, Eorzea, The Empire, and the Eikons.

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Originally Posted by Rannie

I have no clue I just want to be able to play the new story line when it's available and see what happens... hell I might even make a new character just to see the opening of it when you first start the game...

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Actually, I was thinking of doing that as well. If the whole game is essentially getting remade, that would include all the 1-50 content as well. So by starting at 50, you actually miss out on a lot of what was developed for 2.0. I know a lot of people wouldn't be interested in starting over, but I'll do it if it means that I get to experience a lot of new, interesting content.

I'm going to go for the obvious. I feel Eorzea's going to get destroyed (as we know it) and all along you were in another echo. ...Which would be lame, but probable.

Or! Since they seem to have echo+1, Than, Yda, Papa and Y'sh will pull you out of this reality and into theirs.

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Originally Posted by Rane

Actually, I was thinking of doing that as well. If the whole game is essentially getting remade, that would include all the 1-50 content as well. So by starting at 50, you actually miss out on a lot of what was developed for 2.0. I know a lot of people wouldn't be interested in starting over, but I'll do it if it means that I get to experience a lot of new, interesting content.

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I don't think so. The storyline was level-based. With the nice, shiny new jobs we'll get to experience it since they'll start from 1, right?

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Originally Posted by Merylstryfe

I was looking over the Ver. 2.0 announcements as well and thinking about the Dalamud Ramifications. So, here's my take:

2. Something causes Dalamud to be repelled, but also causes the Geological deformations in Eorzea. For this scenario, My guess would be that the Eikons band together to fight off the Dalamud meteor in some way, but linking it to the geological deformations is a bit tougher. Maybe some sort of Aether "cannon" (not literally) that is controlled by the Eikons in order to prevent Meteor.

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This seems like it would be pretty likely too. It would be a total throwback to FFVII, but I think it would still be pretty cool. :D I imagine that Dalamud will get very close to the world, and then warded off by either the Twelve, or the Primals. Which will naturally warp the world.

Alternatively, has Dalamud been outright stated to be "just" Meteor? I haven't made it through a chunk of the Grand Company storyline, so I thought I would ask.
If it hasn't, I could totally see there being a living entity inside of Dalamud, which will bring about the destruction of Eorzea as we know it. (cue mega boss)

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Plans for a History Channel documentary are already in the works.[/QUOTE]

Ahahahahaha. I love that guy.

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Originally Posted by Cyan

Alternatively, has Dalamud been outright stated to be "just" Meteor? I haven't made it through a chunk of the Grand Company storyline, so I thought I would ask.
If it hasn't, I could totally see there being a living entity inside of Dalamud, which will bring about the destruction of Eorzea as we know it. (cue mega boss)

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Meteor seems to be the spell on Dalamund. Assuming it's a spell. It's just been described as something that pulls in nearby matter. Kind of like FF7.

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Originally Posted by Hhaven

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Plans for a History Channel documentary are already in the works.

Ahahahahaha. I love that guy.

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Me too. XD

Still...how exactly DID his hair end up like that?

Some might argue that he just slept on it wrong.

[SIZE="5"]But...could it be that this man's crazy hair is the work of [/SIZE] [SIZE="6"]ALIENS?[/SIZE]

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Originally Posted by Andrien

He just didn't know how to explain his vision, something like a Nostradamus prophecy. I think the Wandering Minstrel is just talking about how the world is going to change in the future.

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hey adrien i'd like to know which college game your sig is from....

Cavernous Maw.

Nuff said.

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Originally Posted by Rau

Cavernous Maw.

Nuff said.

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I knew the reality Atomos ate instead was the reality in which Eorzea exists. Oh well.

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Originally Posted by faris

I don't think so. The storyline was level-based. With the nice, shiny new jobs we'll get to experience it since they'll start from 1, right?

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that's the thing though it is level based. right now you can't go back on your other lvl 1 classes to replay the quests. once the story line quest is done it's done. I'm hoping we can replay them but if we can't then we'll have to go from a new character to experience the new content for it. And that's why I'm hoping we can play the new storyline quest.

Everytime someone says 2.0 and map changes, I think of that picture of the anomaly? thing they talked about. The weird spire of earth going straight up. Still has me very curious on wtf is up with that lol. And how Dalamud is going to form that.

It's what I think of too. Whenever I think of map changes since I just redid CoP for a 4th time in FFXI recently I think of landmasses that get destroyed but still present, i.e:

http://files.samhart.net/screenies/m...620211002a.jpg

So those ground anamolies could probably be the remnants of magic that created meteor or caused Dal to crash into Eorzea and left over.

In FFIX for example when the Iifa tree revives it sprouts roots everywhere and changes the landscape and access to places, while yes it was done as an excuse to not allow people to travel back on the final disk (like VIII) it still has the same idea of the world changing by an event.

Not to replay though. I can't see new rank storyline content is unavailable to you because everything's 50'ed. We get WHM, BLM etc now but I really, really think we'll get new jobs at 2.0 as well, at least to sucker PS3 owners into picking it up. The answer is unlock a new job, level it, get to the rank requirement, and do it.

(though judging by the rank storyline missions in current game, you can do the 10, 15, 20 ones at any rank above that, so I can't really see, with respect, what you're getting at...)

did i mention that you get to fight the servants of an archon who alludes to a seventh umbral era?

i fought his servants at least three times, they were all level 19 and way too easy to kill.

I've posted on this very idea in numerous previous postings.

There's always that talk of walking free...and adventurers and people porting into zones...the idea of light warriors has also been mentioned...so a parallel world is very conceivable.

It could also be 2 dimensional worlds converging.

Oh God, I just tought something....

Maybe the world or Eorzea is destroyed, and we have the opportunity to change the looks of our character because...well we died in the catastrophe we are playing now as another adventure who could be similar to the last one or no. o_O

Brace yourself!

The concept I was thinking of is World of Balance vs. World of Ruin.

Take FFVI, for example:

http://www.ffonline.com/1_ff6gfx/map-wob.gif
http://www.ffonline.com/1_ff6gfx/map-wor.gif

The real problem they have is maybe that most players are 50 50 50..... Who newcomer would like that kind game where is so heavy elitist/millionar population after 2.0. Either they hide the long sword riders from baby players or keep different worlds or even servers (where everybody must start from beginning). Otherwise teasing will be common.