Saturday morning cartoons in FF14 housing

Hey guys, got a question. I recently purchased a med house in the Goblet about two weeks ago or so. Yesterday I thought I'd walk around and try and check out the neighborhood since Square wants it to be a neighborhood type thing with housing. Upon riding some mounts around I didn't find anyone for a good while, but when I did I waived. I said "Hi" to them with (Say) they just waived. They were in the big circle part where the MB is in the middle, I went to sit down near them "not RIGHT next to them", but in the same vicinity. I waited as they were crafting to let them finish and not interrupt to maybe have a conversation. They then stopped got up and waived bye to me and ran to their house and put two furnishings in front of the door as to block me out. I wasn't trying to follow them in as I could have easily just jumped the fence, but I just let it go. I met couple of other folks and they did the same thing to an extent...Someone just straight up told me "No" All I did was say how's it going? So, my question is, do you guys also experience the same Saturday morning cartoon feeling when in your districts? As in I guess I'm the villain and all the scarred town folks are locking themselves in. I saw a post a while back where people were saying there were rude people treading on their yard or using the striking dummy and stuff. I tried the social thing and I guess I'm just not cool enough? Who knows lol.

My experience with housing wards is that they're largely unnecessary as you rarely run into neighbors, and when you do, there is rarely any conversation to be had.

But as far as the emoting only, it's not much different than just sitting down next to a random person in town and expecting to have decent conversation. Some people may be down for that, probably a good amount will keep it brief.

Have fun with the house though :)

Uhm...

*Gets in his house and locks door*

*From inside*

Not really, because my neighborhood is kinda dead. I only see people either afking in front of the MB; some wandering souls crafting and that's it. I remember when I was in Hyperion when housing was introduced, we used to have some funny convos in shout.

In Balmung, there are events that they run in their houses and pretty much everyone is invited. But in general, the housing districts are dead.

Hmm that's a little crushing, You can always make friends through PF, duties, shouts, or main cities. Was hoping for a different front or whatev, guess I'm weird oh well lol

Despite housing in this game being in the form of wards/neighborhoods, there's very, very little social interaction happening there on most servers. They were initially meant to be FC only which might be why they were designed this way to start. After scrapping what plans (if they had any) for solo player housing, they simply just allowed solo players to purchase houses in wards instead. Whatever social concept they were going for backfired. If you're looking for social interactions, 9 times out of 10 it's not going to happen in any housing ward.

Pretty much the only socializing I see take place, if any shouts are to be had, are Reach, Kugane, and Eureka. The other places are either advertisements for FCs or RMTs.

To be honest: I'd be the person who shuts the door, because I'm just not intrested in that random social interaction with a stranger.
Remind me that this is an MMO, meant to be played with other people all you like, but to me that doesnt mean that I have to engage in smalltalk with a random neighbour at a marketboard, while I'm most likely just checking the price for something to craft before semi-afk crafting said piece.
Or while I'm already in a conversation with friends/FC/LS.

Its not personal and I assume its not in their case either, but they obviously dont have to talk to you - and at least I prefer not to have some chatter-smalltalk with a stranger when I've actually got stuff to do around my house.

I just moved into a medium house in mist, and met the person that owns the large behind me, he runs his own FC and owns the small vacant plot beside me, most likely to save his view being blocked from his large FC house I assume; he was more than happy to have us explore his FC and even tried teaching us how to use the jump glitch to get on his roof lol I also live right beside my partner and my two in game best friends so the neighbourhood already feels very comfortable :)

Socializing in my area of shirogane is basically nonexistant. When personals reopened some guy bought the house in front of mine only to squat on it. Permanently locked and yard never furnished. I never see neighbors almost at all.

I'm not exactly a chatterbox that waves to nearby people but then again there's never anyone to do that with in the first place.

As I've said there is no real need for wards as interaction is practically nonexistent in most wards and when there is some it isn't uncommon for it to be a creepy experience. Since I've owned my house I've seen no more than a few players in my ward and like me they were just checking the MB or on their way to an aetherite. I've waved with sometimes a wave back or nothing at all. I just leave it at that. I did have one case where I was gardening and sat down to take a break. Some random came in the yard and practically sat on my lap without saying a word. I got up to go inside and they follow me to the door. As my house was private at that time that's as far as it went but it was creepy. As an aside I've been playing another game recently and just bought a house. No waiting and I had a choice of multiple styles within my price range. Of course it is instanced but has a nice courtyard and patio.

One of the argument of people being against instanced housing is that they want lively wards. Since i got a small house with the last housing changes, i can't help but to notice that i see way, way less players than down my instanced appartment. Which is kinda normal if you ask me, when several of them all take the same door to exit and end up in the exact same place rather than being scattered through several huge wards.

Number of people i did see since i got my house, in almost two months : 3. Yes, that's not a typo, only 3.
- the first one don't even count, he did pass by 30 seconds after i did buy the spot, and teleported away seeing he was too late to snatch it ;
- the second did stop 20 seconds at the market board, and was never seen again ;
- the third did stop a bit longer at the retainer's summonning bell, and was never seen again as well.

I didn't even choose an isolated spot, there is other houses on all sides of mine. The market board nearest from them being right in front of my portal, all players living in the neighborhood are in the obligation to go right in front of my house if they want to buy something from it. Yet there is nobody, as there is not a single soul to be seen as i go sometimes check how the other gardens looks like.

Maybe i am surrounded by shells fc who dont find buyers, or by people who got bored with housing as soon as they did get a spot, and now enter them once every 45 days to not get them demolished, go figure.

Good god OP, you came across some pretty strange people! Putting furnishings in front of the door to prevent you from getting in? Why not just lock their door?

Almost everyone I initiated conversation with in housing districts has been at least polite if not very nice. There's even someone in my fc who we first met in the housing district our fc house is in.

The immediate area around my FC used to be hopping before the housing patch in 4.2. Only one or two people in our FC had their own house, so most of us would hang out in the street in front of our house. And there was a RP FC right across from us in the small house with another RP FC just past it and one up the steps, so we'd see them all the time around our street and market board. They'd even do RP events on the beach just down the stairs or in one of their yards from time to time. All in all it was quite lively.

After the housing patch, several of us in our FC got personal housing finally, so we tend not to hang out as much together in front of our FC house as we used to. And all of the RP-FCs that existed in our little corner of the housing area moved their houses to different plots somewhere I don't even know. The house they moved from are all owned by single players now, and I only ever see one of them regularly. She's nice, but it's still a ghost town compared to before. I'm not saying the housing patch was a bad thing, by any means, since it let many of my friends finally realize their house owning goals, and on Balmung no less. It definitely did have a significant impact on our neighbourhood though.

I do have a non-responsive neighbour at my personal house, but they're not outwardly rude about it. I just waved and said hello on the first day we moved in, and got no response, so just left it at that. My upstairs neighbour is pretty silent as well, although we've had a couple of exchanges. Nothing anywhere like the experience of one of my neighbours physically blockading their entrance in response to a hello, though. I wouldn't worry about it. That's them just being them, and has nothing to do with you. Ignore it and move on.

On the morning that they first opened up the new wards my wards area chat was busy with everyone excited and congratulating each other...and it died almost immediately after that lol. I have seen 4 people in my ward (barring my FC mates) since then. Its depressing how dead wards are.

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Originally Posted by Rokke

On the morning that they first opened up the new wards my wards area chat was busy with everyone excited and congratulating each other...and it died almost immediately after that lol. I have seen 4 people in my ward (barring my FC mates) since then. Its depressing how dead wards are.

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Part of that probably has to do with the fact that the interior is a different instance to the exterior. So no chit chat in shout or yell if you're indoors. A general channel that works indoors and outdoors for each housing district would be nice so that those who want conversation could easily have it.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

Part of that probably has to do with the fact that the interior is a different instance to the exterior. So no chit chat in shout or yell if you're indoors. A general channel that works indoors and outdoors for each housing district would be nice so that those who want conversation could easily have it.

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We have a ls that every member of my ward belongs too and no one, not a single person, uses it. Every now and then someone will ask for help in their workshop or just says hi and get 0 responses. When we do get a talker and keeps talking even if no one responds you start seeing ppl leave the ls. So you could try a ls out but don't expect miracles.

To OP. I was friendly with my neighbors once. We had a chat, laughed and teased each other and then I had to move to get away from them. They spent more time in my house than theirs, they would rp in my house and they would not leave me alone. I had to lock my house and remove anything from the exterior they could interact with. I had to put myself on /busy when I was outside and I even shut off emote msgs in my log because of them.

So that could be part of the problem, some ppl just do not understand boundaries and once those flood gates open, there is no closing them. And frankly if someone just sat there staring at me while I was crafting, I would get out of dodge quick too. That's a bit creepy depending on how long you sat there. If they don't respond, move on.

I am having problems understanding what is going on from the title and post being completely unrelated? What am i missing?

I always wave to random people in the neighbourhood and they always wave back, sometimes conversations. I'm on a JP server so the language barrier is there, but it's still a nice feeling of community.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

Good god OP, you came across some pretty strange people! Putting furnishings in front of the door to prevent you from getting in? Why not just lock their door?

Almost everyone I initiated conversation with in housing districts has been at least polite if not very nice. There's even someone in my fc who we first met in the housing district our fc house is in.

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Hmm...glad I'm not the only one who saw it that way. I mean I wasn't my intent to be "creepy" or anything, like if I were trying to bother that person I would have simply hopped over the fence to annoy/harass them since we can do that. I also understand that they don't have to talk to me, I was just trying to be friendly and that's it, period. Furthermore, I just thought it'd be cool to check other's houses out and let them know that they did a good job, or they made something look cool etc. etc. possibly make pals this way, but as others have said...This sort of instance is the norm. Oh well, guess I could always just leave mog mail now in the new patch, but then again I'd probably be deemed creepy or a nuisance for that too.

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

I am having problems understanding what is going on from the title and post being completely unrelated? What am i missing?

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Ah, you know how some sort of villain used to stroll through a town and everyone would hide in the buildings and lock everything up? The kinda stuff you would see on Saturday morning cartoons. I thought I said something about that in my original post, but maybe I didn't sorry for your confusion that I may have created for you.

Maybe they just dont like cats ^^

Neighborhoods would've been busier had it stayed FCs only. More people per household would mean more hangout spots and more people interacting. I personally don't understand the need for a personal house, but I think it should've stayed at least FC only.

If you're on Cactuar sometime, I'm outside my house a lot. :D

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Originally Posted by OMega_ARcane

Ah, you know how some sort of villain used to stroll through a town and everyone would hide in the buildings and lock everything up? The kinda stuff you would see on Saturday morning cartoons. I thought I said something about that in my original post, but maybe I didn't sorry for your confusion that I may have created for you.

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LAMO! that is pretty funny tbh but no i never saw this