More "Active" Healing Class

Hello everyone. ^^


I would like to see SE implement a more "active" healing class than what XI had. If you've watched the opening video, do you notice how that lalafell runs up and throws up a shield around a character? I think things like that would be so much nicer than simply standing at max distance and throwing off heals. Not that I want to see a "healing" class capable of tanking with its shielding abilities, but I'd like to see some abilities that make a mage class that can actually get into their job. I was a WHM for years in XI and one of the things I hated the most was how removed I felt from everything--especially endgame content where I was required to stay outside the alliance until drops fell. I would love to see them add content that actually draws a mage class into the heart of the battle, or at least requires more involvement than standing back and hitting F-keys and macros. Maybe this could be a separate job from the typical "White Mage"--an entire job dedicated to preventative abilities. It would certainly be interesting if a skillful player was able to throw up wards every time a mob started to charge a move. Obviously these couldn't be failsafe (or a very skilled player could easily be overpowered in a normally-hard fight), and should only last a short time (again, like the shield in the opening video). Or, they could just be some moves for the regular healing class.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

If you don't know what I'm talking about, look at the opening cinematic. It should link to the right time, but if not, jump to 2:06ish. Also, check out the [SPOILER ALERT] Cutscene from Futures Perfect--around 25 seconds.

That lightning shield that was used in MANY CS and previews?

DO WANT.

Though, after I have seen that cat lady with her illusions and telekenisis, I would think an Illusionist/Phsycic job for CNj would be in order.

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Originally Posted by Bowen

That lightning shield that was used in MANY CS and previews?

DO WANT.

Though, after I have seen that cat lady with her illusions and telekenisis, I would think an Illusionist/Phsycic job for CNj would be in order.

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Would be awesome. I never really paid attention to that miqo'te until I did Futures Perfect (last storyline quest so far), but dang. She kicks booty. :P If players could do anything like that...

The problem with all of this is that it requires a good connection, and people playing on slower internet (or heaven forbid, dialup) would probably be unable to play this job. I know that sucks, but I've always wanted something like this. ;;

If you guys don't know what we're talking about, look at the opening cinematic. It should link to the right time, but if not, jump to 2:06ish.

POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Also, when I was referring to the illusions, it was from the LL GC quest that you had to do before choosing your GC.
Oh, and the telekenisis is from the end of the R 46 missions.

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Originally Posted by Bowen

POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Also, when I was referring to the illusions, it was from the LL GC quest that you had to do before choosing your GC.
Oh, and the telekenisis is from the end of the R 46 missions.

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Updated the OP with links to the Futures Perfect CS as well. ^^

What Mychael is thinking about is a class from Tactics, the Bishop. Healing magic abilities while casting barrier and holy to sway the battle in their favor.

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Originally Posted by Bowen

POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Also, when I was referring to the illusions, it was from the LL GC quest that you had to do before choosing your GC.
Oh, and the telekenisis is from the end of the R 46 missions.

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Was this the "illusionist" bit you were thinking of, Bowen? How do you think that could fit into battle? o= I can think of a few tricks, but not sure how that could work. In PvP the uses are incredible, but PvE I can't think of too many. ^^;

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Originally Posted by Mychael

Was this the "illusionist" bit you were thinking of, Bowen? How do you think that could fit into battle? o= I can think of a few tricks, but not sure how that could work. In PvP the uses are incredible, but PvE I can't think of too many. ^^;

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Uh my YouTube is not working ATM. . . But, if it is the scene where she makes a bunch of copies of herself then yes! :)
I was thinking it would be a decoy type of move. Example: uses clone to send a moogle locked on to one other party member run to the other side of the ring. Drawback: Once the spell wears off, the moogles hate would be directed at you. (The Illusionist)
Or something like that.

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Originally Posted by Bowen

Uh my YouTube is not working ATM. . . But, if it is the scene where she makes a bunch of copies of herself then yes! :)
I was thinking it would be a decoy type of move. Example: uses clone to send a moogle locked on to one other party member run to the other side of the ring. Drawback: Once the spell wears off, the moogles hate would be directed at you. (The Illusionist)
Or something like that.

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Yup, that's what it was. What you're suggesting would be incredible. I hope they at least consider something like this. ^^

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Originally Posted by Mychael

Yup, that's what it was. What you're suggesting would be incredible. I hope they at least consider something like this. ^^

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YouTube is working now so I saw it and yes, that was the one.

It would offer another useful tactics to use in battle, auras. Tactically it would be similar to running towards a CNJ for buffs, but this would be a continuous ward that would allow players to recuperate during battle instead of the one-time cast and run. Whether to allow this aura to be mobile or not would just be up to the developers to balance the ability.

Also, imagine even using tools/items crafted by players to deploy auras onto the battlefield. Changing the battlefield to the player's advantage.

Yes, yes, a thousand-times yes to the idea of an active mage class. I wish I could thumbs-up the OP more than once.

XI kindda had this in the form of Scholar

played correctly sch could switch from heals to nukes, buff and debuff, spread one target spells to multiple targes and give stat bonuses. Granted there were no items uses like ppl have been suggesting but sch imo was the most active and versitile mage in xi. I think the only reason it gets the poopoo from players is because it was also one of the more complicated and gear heavy jobs, which also made it more exciting and prevented boredom from seeping in too much. I loved sch and would love to see it reappear xiv style

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

XI kindda had this in the form of Scholar

played correctly sch could switch from heals to nukes, buff and debuff, spread one target spells to multiple targes and give stat bonuses. Granted there were no items uses like ppl have been suggesting but sch imo was the most active and versitile mage in xi. I think the only reason it gets the poopoo from players is because it was also one of the more complicated and gear heavy jobs, which also made it more exciting and prevented boredom from seeping in too much. I loved sch and would love to see it reappear xiv style

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More than a "versatile" mage, what I'm after is one that can actually run into the battle and needs to use a variety of spells at the spur of the moment. I agree that Scholar could be one of the most fun classes because they used so many different skills, but in the end it was the same thing in every situation, and still from a distance. ^^; Scholar was definitely a step in the right direction.

CNJ feels more like how SCH played with the new abilities and if you make the most of your skills at all times instead of sitting there and waiting to throw out cures. In the Ifrit fight I switch Cleric Stance on/off through different stages of the fights and nuke when I have time to spare, at the very least keeping the Aero bleed effect on constantly. In Spiritbond/XP parties Cleric stance is never off. Add the MP cycling with Shroud of Saints and Blissful Mind and I find myself having a lot of stuff to do in parties.

That said I wouldn't mind the electrobubble spell, as seeing it made me so pumped to play FF14 =P It could possibly be planned as the many instant debuff/cc spells that are in the works for mages for soloing and pvp purposes. A temp barrier that pushes melee away from getting in AA range for a short period of time would be pretty neat.

Presently mages are more in the role of simply 'setting a status' on someone.
Rather than affecting the environment in any other way.

The end result is perhaps the same (the person has a shield on them) but very much boring. I suppose its better than simply seeing:
Lala rolls a 34. PLD's defense increases by 17.


Now, if combat graphics looked as good as in that movie.. I might be in battle all the time!