Can't invite some sprouts to novice network.

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03-22-2018, 08:21 PM
ViciousArach9

Can't invite some sprouts to novice network.

Several mentors have been trying to send one sprout an invitation to novice network. It says "Unable to invite to Novice Network. That player is not accepting invitations at this time." None of us know what we can do to resolve this and actually get him in. What is barring them from accepting invitations?
03-22-2018, 08:28 PM
Astrelle-Gibrillont

They'll have toggled their ability to receive Novice Network invitations with /novicenetworkinvitation off. If they want to be able to receive invites, they'll need to use /novicenetworkinvitation on.
03-22-2018, 08:42 PM
StouterTaru

I'm guessing they were just running along, minding their own business, and BAM, full screen invite from out of the blue by someone in another zone that they've never met.

Decline -> Block all future invites
03-22-2018, 08:45 PM
WilhelmWhite

Has this player actually asked to join the novice network?
03-23-2018, 05:05 PM
NephthysVasudan

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

I'm guessing they were just running along, minding their own business, and BAM, full screen invite from out of the blue by someone in another zone that they've never met.

Decline -> Block all future invites

Yep

I'd do it too if people started throwing invites at me "uninvited"
03-23-2018, 06:38 PM
KaivaC

We're on the same server - that's been a problem a few times before because a lot of sprouts tend to get hit with all kinds of invites. Of the four servers I've done a test run through on a sprout alt, Siren has been particularly bad about these blind invites.
03-23-2018, 08:24 PM
StouterTaru

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Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan

Yep

I'd do it too if people started throwing invites at me "uninvited"

It's not just a blind invite, it's a giant popup in the middle of your screen with a picture of the starting town NPCs.
03-23-2018, 08:30 PM
SannaR

In some places it's not just the NN, but also to FC's.
03-23-2018, 08:45 PM
WilhelmWhite

When I first started this game, a mentor sent me a /tell and ASKED ME if I wanted to join the novice network. It's not that hard to simply ask before shooting out random invites. You'll get a lot more results that way.
03-23-2018, 11:33 PM
KrytosFallaran

The thing is a lot of people don't want to waste the time to ask or don't like the reply they get when they do.
03-24-2018, 12:38 AM
StouterTaru

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Originally Posted by KrytosFallaran

The thing is a lot of people don't want to waste the time to ask or don't like the reply they get when they do.

I'm not comfortable asking people if they've accepted Jesus as their lord and savior, so I just stand on the 3rd floor balcony throwing Gideon's Bibles at people.
03-24-2018, 01:52 AM
worldofneil

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

It's not that hard to simply ask before shooting out random invites.

I personally don't see the point in sending them a tell first... the popup they get is doing just that and asking if they want to join the novice network, so what's the difference if I do it or the system itself does it?

Not that I've actually added anyone in ages that hasn't specifically requested an invite, but that's mainly because if I'm adding people I feel I should be prepared to answer immediate questions from them and lately I haven't felt like had enough time for doing more than answering questions from people already in the chat :(
03-24-2018, 02:03 AM
Seig345

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

[...] what's the difference if I do it or the system itself does it? [...]

From what I'm reading here (I've never been on the receiving end of a NN invite), the difference is that the NN invite is far more obtrusive coming out of the blue vs a /tell. People are diverse, and you're just as likely to jar someone into looking for a way to block those invites as you are to find someone who's interested and accepts.
03-24-2018, 02:20 AM
InkstainedGwyn

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Originally Posted by KrytosFallaran

The thing is a lot of people don't want to waste the time to ask or don't like the reply they get when they do.

Hey, you know, maybe "people might not like me inviting them so I won't send them a tell first and will just do it" isn't really the best way to do anything.

I got slammed into the NN without even being asked, I don't even think I got an invite? I just remember it suddenly being on (maybe there was an invite and I didn't realise what it was or thought it was a help popup, idk) and that was the most jarring thing, it was like I was reading a nice quiet book in the library and suddenly the whole place turned into a nightclub with screaming everywhere.

I turned that thing off immediately and have never wanted to look back. I won't even be a mentor because that run-in with the NN just made me hate the whole process (not to mention, it was pretty much a cesspool). If people need help, I'll give it to them without worrying about a crown next to my name.
03-24-2018, 02:45 AM
WilhelmWhite

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

I personally don't see the point in sending them a tell first... the popup they get is doing just that and asking if they want to join the novice network, so what's the difference if I do it or the system itself does it?

Ummmmmmmm, because the pop-up is much more annoying, and it's polite/common courtesy to just ask the person yourself?????

That's like a person handing out food samples saying "Hello, would you like to try a sample?" vs invading personal space with the samples saying "HEY YOU, EAT THIS."
03-24-2018, 02:49 AM
StouterTaru

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Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn

I got slammed into the NN without even being asked, I don't even think I got an invite? I just remember it suddenly being on (maybe there was an invite and I didn't realise what it was or thought it was a help popup, idk) and that was the most jarring thing, it was like I was reading a nice quiet book in the library and suddenly the whole place turned into a nightclub with screaming everywhere.

I think they added the invite screen a few major patches after they released NN. Now you get a giant popup in the middle of the screen, with a picture of starting town NPCs and a sentence saying so-and-so invited you to the novice network. If you decline, you get another window which has the option to block all future invites.
03-24-2018, 02:53 AM
InkstainedGwyn

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

I think they added the invite screen a few major patches after they released NN. Now you get a giant popup in the middle of the screen, with a picture of starting town NPCs and a sentence saying so-and-so invited you to the novice network. If you decline, you get another window which has the option to block all future invites.

That would make sense, as this was a good year and a half ago, and the worst part was that I was... hmmm... 30-something at the time? Not exactly a sprout at the time. New, yes, but far from someone who really would need guidance I couldn't get from friends and FC.

I'm glad they let people opt out of being invited now, but I really, really wish you couldn't invite someone without asking first. It's rude. I even had a bone to pick with my ex-FC leader because they thought that randomly inviting anybody without an FC to our FC was a cool thing to do. Display some basic courtesy, thanks?
03-24-2018, 03:00 AM
WilhelmWhite

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Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn

I'm glad they let people opt out of being invited now, but I really, really wish you couldn't invite someone without asking first. It's rude. I even had a bone to pick with my ex-FC leader because they thought that randomly inviting anybody without an FC to our FC was a cool thing to do. Display some basic courtesy, thanks?

Thank you, I couldn't agree more. In quite a bit of MMOs, guilds/clans/groups etc are able to just spam invites to everyone, and I don't understand why people don't know that it's super rude. It. Is. Not. That. Hard. To. Ask.
03-24-2018, 03:16 AM
KrytosFallaran

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

Thank you, I couldn't agree more. In quite a bit of MMOs, guilds/clans/groups etc are able to just spam invites to everyone, and I don't understand why people don't know that it's super rude. It. Is. Not. That. Hard. To. Ask.

Thank you. I wish that they would add something like a FC invite blocker I hate getting spammed by invites.
03-24-2018, 07:39 AM
Rongway

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

When I first started this game, a mentor sent me a /tell and ASKED ME if I wanted to join the novice network. It's not that hard to simply ask before shooting out random invites. You'll get a lot more results that way.

Some people (trial accounts) can't reply to tells, though.