Void Ark Minions?

Out of curiosity, are they ever going to raise the drop rate on these? I've had to have done Dun Scaith 20 or more times by now just to run through and only ever see these drop once in a blue moon after 20 - 30 minutes.

The only one I managed to get was Echidna. I've only seen Scathach drop twice which I lost to other people, and I've never so much as seen anyone with Calofisteri let alone saw it in the loot roll.

I've gotten everyone BUT Scathach. Of course I don't see it much cause Dun Scaith is still a pain to do at times. Though I'd take Dun Scaith over Royal City. Dunno why Royal City is so hard for some people.

I felt the same way until I had a Dun Scaith run the other day where we wiped on just about every boss except Ferdiad and Proto Ultima, and only managed to kill Proto Ultima one second before Supernova went off.

Still not updated. It's just a little strange, I find, considering the new Ridorana Raid has a guaranteed minion drop at the end, but these two (three?) still don't.

I want the last two raid minions sooooo bad D: Scathach and Callifositeri (sp?) they are soooo pretty their drop rates are terrible

I concur. Not only do you have to roll against potentially 23 other people, but you have to deal with whatever low drop rate it has compared to every other 24-man raid—making both absurdly difficult to get.

If they make Calo a guaranteed drop, I'll do a few Mhach runs every week until I get it. With the current drop rates it's not worth all the time investment.

Supported.
Here are a couple of other topics requesting this as well:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nd-up-Scathach
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...on-drop-to-100
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...drop-every-run

Yeah these are 3.0 raids, they should raise the drop rate.

I run the HW 24-mans a lot. Echinda has dropped many times, and I continue to lose each time. I even lost with a roll of 95, and starting to think I am not meant to have it. Scathach has dropped all but twice, and I have yet to see anyone on my server have her in tow. She's the minion of all minions to have for me. Grrrr!

Echidna is the only one that seems to have a guaranteed drop rate, or at least one that's fairly high, yeah.

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Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain

Echidna is the only one that seems to have a guaranteed drop rate, or at least one that's fairly high, yeah.

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Can confirm that it is a guaranteed drop. Meanwhile, the other two continue to not exist—I have Calofisteri but I don’t have Scathach, and even when Dun Scaith was the most recent raid, I rarely ever saw her drop.

Scathach dropped last night in my DS run. I rolled a 6, wootz! :|

C'mon dammit. Puff of Darkness needs a partner in crime! I finally got Echidna though, but something tells me that the other 23 players already have it. I seriously have the worst luck with dungeon minions.

I have yet too get Scathach

I'm wondering when they will put the minions in each alliance chest instead of all 24 rolling on it. The ARR ones are alliance chest and the SB 24-man raid storyline is in its second installment while HW raids are still a battle royale over one minion.

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Originally Posted by Sekkei

I'm wondering when they will put the minions in each alliance chest instead of all 24 rolling on it. The ARR ones are alliance chest and the SB 24-man raid storyline is in its second installment while HW raids are still a battle royale over one minion.

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Just to clarify, Construct 8 is a raid-wide roll; all 24 people roll on it. It’s not per alliance. And last I checked, both Onion Knight and Puff of Darkness are as well unless they changed those.

I know very well what 24-man roll is. Trust me, I know. Unless SE changed it back, the Crystal Tower minions should be party chest

Because mobile sucks with no edit post, this is in 3.1 patch notes: [2.0] The following items will now appear in the treasure chest of each party in an alliance when undertaking Syrcus Tower or the World of Darkness:
Wind-up Onion Knight / Puff of Darkness

So yes, they're overdue on The Shadow of Mhach minions being individual party chest only.

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I know very well what 24-man roll is. Trust me, I know. Unless SE changed it back, the Crystal Tower minions should be party chest

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Didn't mean to upset you. O.o Your post made it sound like they dropped per alliance, but I know Construct 8 does not having recently won a roll against 23 others. My apologies.

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Originally Posted by Sekkei

Because mobile sucks with no edit post, this is in 3.1 patch notes: [2.0] The following items will now appear in the treasure chest of each party in an alliance when undertaking Syrcus Tower or the World of Darkness:
Wind-up Onion Knight / Puff of Darkness

So yes, they're overdue on The Shadow of Mhach minions being individual party chest only.

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Weeping City and Dun Scaith are well-overdue to have them drop 100% of the time, period. VA's Echinda has been that way since late Heavensward so it makes zero sense that the others do not. And I don't know the developer's reasonings for leaving them unchanged.

Yeah they're definitely not 100%, but I've seen them drop a lot to be considered often enough. Didn't they already boost the drop rate once or am I thinking of something else?

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Yeah they're definitely not 100%, but I've seen them drop a lot to be considered often enough. Didn't they already boost the drop rate once or am I thinking of something else?

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I don't recall them mentioning upping the drop rate. I'd have to dig through patch notes. You could be thinking of Primal mount drop rates or TT card drop rates. Really they should be 100%. ;-; I rarely do get Weeping or Dun in Alliance Roulette (always LotA cries), but I've only seen Scathach a handful of times between HW and SB. And then I roll sub 20 and really cry.

Yeah I see that one more than the others, probably because people cheese the roulette with lower ilevel and it dumps everyone else in there lol

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Yeah I see that one more than the others, probably because people cheese the roulette with lower ilevel and it dumps everyone else in there lol

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I’m guessing it’s either that, or they just unlock LotA and ST, since you only need two 24-mans unlocked to unlock the roulette. That way they get super easy roulette for really good experience. Makes me sad, because I much prefer Weeping City or Dun Scaith. :c

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Weeping City and Dun Scaith are well-overdue to have them drop 100% of the time, period. VA's Echinda has been that way since late Heavensward so it makes zero sense that the others do not. And I don't know the developer's reasonings for leaving them unchanged.

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Just being stingy? A reason doesn't have to be a good one. When I think about it, because the drop rate is so low, no one really queues into Dun Scaith for the sole purpose of a Scathbach acquirement, so changing it to a 100% drop rate isn't going to kill the content. It would actually probably raise the rate people specifically queue into it for at least a couple weeks.

It's a fun raid, but not everyone's favorite considering many wipes still happen there, and quite a few mechanics are still introductory for several players each time you run it.

Seems like a weird oversight that all the newer and older raid minions drop every run (O.Knight, Puff, Echidna, Construct) but not Calo and Scath. My assumption is they just forgot. They changed the older ones to 100% drop and just forgot about these two.

Scathach and Calofisteri need to be made 100%, I got lucky while glamour farming Dun Scaith but I have 150+ runs of Weeping City, every set completed and still no Calofisteri.

reeeeee

I'd say they should make the Wind-Up Calofisteri a 100% drop rate first before eventually making Wind-Up Scathach a 100% drop rate as well. I'd say give the difference a half-patch or so.

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I'd say they should make the Wind-Up Calofisteri a 100% drop rate first before eventually making Wind-Up Scathach a 100% drop rate as well. I'd say give the difference a half-patch or so.

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I'd be fine with this so long as they address it at all.

I've tried to point this out several times before the launch of Stormblood, only to see the posts get buried. I also noticed someone found one of them. While I have gotten all three at this point, it still bothers me. All I want is for them to keep to a pattern so we can decide how we go about it. We're this far into Stormblood and yet they fail to at least state a reasoning as to why they have 1 of these minions at 100% drop rate and the other 2 completely ignored. I know of a dozen or more players who would have run those raids until their eyes bled to get them easier then by today's standard. We all thought they would be brought in line with the other drop rates. Instead ignored and forgotten.