What's your first impression of Eureka?

So far it feels like they just added an exp bar to Diadem 1, back to dino island, also 1300 proteans for +2 weapon upgrade (not even the last, not even including armor) is quite a grind.

All the zerging was hurting my eyes so I just left my party and logged off after I had enough.

It was getting pretty fast boring. Its just hitting mops and hoping the RNG is on your side.. all in all its boring. No fun at all

From the sound of things, glad I'm no longer subbed. I'll probably be back for the story eventually.

Hmm....I believe I might have to avoid this discussion. If the thread fills with nothing but 'boring' posts and 'massive failure', I'm likely not going to try it before I get home...so yeah...

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

From the sound of things, glad I'm no longer subbed. I'll probably be back for the story eventually.

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I'm usually not allowed to post in the forum when I'm not subbed :P

After an hour I have no desire to do it again. Protean drops are way to low and XP gain is so slow its laughable. Mobs aren't difficult because everyone just zergs stuff down.

I'm not sure who the target audience is for this but its not me. Eureka is everything I was afraid it would be and no redeeming qualities to it.

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

I'm usually not allowed to post in the forum when I'm not subbed :P

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You get 14 days since your last login to use the forums.

Feels like they stepped backward having to form your own parties in the dino island zerg than being matched with people like diadem. Seeing how parties get you kills faster which means faster chains leading to more chances at loot don't know why they didn't just partner people up. Other than that not impressed with dumping us into a literal zergfest to start us off. At this point I am just hoping the nms are close to rani and absolute virtue difficulty from ffxi but that is a pipe dream.

Boring as all hell. The element wheel is cool and all, but 1 hour of grinding got me 1 level and 3 crystals. When you need 5050 of them to get the first level relic and weapon, then lol nope. Get ready to party with 8 other people and just mindlessly spam your attacks for hours on end.

The storyline seems interesting, but god do I have no will to try and grind my way through it. I think this tier of relics will be skipped for me.

Yoshi: It wont be like Diadem....

Right....

low exp, need huge amounts of crystals for bad gear (low ilvl even when maxed) I lasted about an hour before I logged off.

Stuck at work reading this and it sounds worrisome. So, it's like fates but not actual fates, just hitting monsters?

With friends, I found it enjoyable. :)

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Originally Posted by MuseTraveller

Stuck at work reading this and it sounds worrisome. So, it's like fates but not actual fates, just hitting monsters?

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Yeah, there are no fates at all. It's Diadem 1.0 but you can kinda solo it now.

Total trash, free to play RNG level mobile phone game inspired low drop rate grinder.

I've only played for an hour and up to midway level 2, but that was a very mindless one hour.

SE's way of fixing boring, dead on arrival content is to tie enticing rewards that players suffer to get rather than actually making fun content.

It's also confusing why this took so long to develop...

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Originally Posted by Xiomara

When you need 5050 of them to get the first level relic and weapon

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oh my god - just NO. I dipped my toe in the water for a bit earlier, found it quite mind-numbing to be honest. I will give it one thing though, even given the large amount of people zerging left and right, they were not stingy with available mobs to kill, so at least no reason to fight over targets.

first impression?: endless grind and suffering

Diadem 3.0

not impressed either, not gonna lie. I did both ARR and heavensward relics, I don't think I might do this one. This is so mindless I've nearly fell asleep. I'm sorry I just don't like it so far. Will try again later today, maybe I'm missing something, but I doubt my opinion will change on this. Good luck to those enjoying it

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Originally Posted by Bernkastelx

Feels like they stepped backward having to form your own parties in the dino island zerg than being matched with people like diadem. Seeing how parties get you kills faster which means faster chains leading to more chances at loot don't know why they didn't just partner people up. Other than that not impressed with dumping us into a literal zergfest to start us off. At this point I am just hoping the nms are close to rani and absolute virtue difficulty from ffxi but that is a pipe dream.

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Just killed a NM, yielded 2400 XP, a few lockboxes and anemos crystals. But it was a zergfest too.

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Originally Posted by Xiomara

Yeah, there are no fates at all. It's Diadem 1.0 but you can kinda solo it now.

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There are fates though, they just don't spawn often.

An absolute flop, I couldn't last longer than an hour. Won't be returning.

The rewards are also really bad for the thousands of hours needed to accquire said bad gear. (dyeable af, woopedy do).

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Originally Posted by Stanelis

Just killed a NM, yielded 2400 XP, a few lockboxes and anemos crystals. But it was a zergfest too.

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Probably not, but - did it tick towards your hunt achievements?

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

Probably not, but - did it tick towards your hunt achievements?

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I don't know I didn't check. I don't think so because it is counted as some sort of fate (was visible on the whole map).

Honestly its just killing mobs in a field. Theres not much variety in gameplay there which kind of gets tedious. Theres a sense of progression, but even what you get from it is lacking because theres better gear available even for casual players at this stage.

Unfortunately, there are always "those" kinda people who LOVE this kind of mindless grind. I asked around and there are frighteningly many who are okay with this horrible, lazy content. For me, after non-stop killing the same group of enemies for almost 2h with laughable rewards and the prospect of doing this for months and months and months to get some relic gear....nah, skip and pretend it doesnt exist....just like PvP and diadem :rolleyes:

My first impressions are that it's a horrible solo-unfriendly forced-grouping grinding hellhole.

To clarify, I don't mind grinding - I loved doing the zodiac and anima weapon quests... and have really missed having a similar questline in Stormblood.

If this is the answer then they've completely missed the point (at least for me).

Does anyone actually like it or has had fun there?

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Well, coming back to edit this now I've got to level 20 and got my relic.

I've really had fun in Eureka - meeting new people and telling bad jokes :P
Even the FATE train is kinda fun too.

At first it's a bit daunting and doesn't look like fun... but it's all about the people.
Can't wait for the next one!

Would have liked if it was more solo friendly. I'm all for it being party efficient but I basically can't earn any protean crystals when alone (excluding the fact it takes nearly 80-90 seconds for me to kill anything), all for like 55 exp from a level 3 mob AND you need 5060 for 3-4.

Relic stuff is known for being grindy but is this too much, even comparing atmas?

I like it, there seems to be a foreshadowing of more to come when I get to higher levels. For once we have a piece of content that doesn't hand hold, and makes you work for your reward.

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

Would have liked if it was more solo friendly. I'm all for it being party efficient but I basically can't earn any protean crystals when alone (excluding the fact it takes nearly 80-90 seconds for me to kill anything), all for like 55 exp from a level 3 mob AND you need 5060 for 3-4.

Relic stuff is known for being grindy but is this too much, even comparing atmas?

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You need to build a chain to gain crystals, they start dropping often between #20 and #30.

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Originally Posted by Stanelis

(was visible on the whole map).

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... so are S ranks...

When ppl will realize that open world content will ALWAYS become a zrgefest Unless you deliberately lock it with either group tap or something like the debuffs from old wow world bosses?

Let's talk about some overwelming bad design.

It gives you the opportunity to lvl job gear to higher ilvl (335 and 350 for what i've seen), yet, ilvl is SYNCH in eureka at 300, so basically useless for it.

The 350 upgrade WOULD be usable in actual raid content, but you will mostly have to farm mob brainless and pray RNJesus to have less than 100h+ off doing so. Which, by the time you finally get ONE piece while not going insane in the process, 4.3 will be out and the gear will be, once again useless.

Not to mention the insanly long lvling process, the fact that you can actively loose your lvl after a point when you die, I don't think people are going to stick around that "masterpiece of content" more than, say 2 weeks top.

For me, it was the update of the last chance, I'm unsubbing next monday after letting my static know they have to find another ninja. It's sad, but I think SE has to change something here, I'm probably not the only one to go away after today ^^

I like it as well now i have something to do with my FC. I don't mind the grind it's a relic i wasn't expecting to get it right away.

"As if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happned."

Its just soo disappointing and it was delayed?? did they need more time to think of names for mobs we've seen again and again, you kill mobs over and over thats the whole song and dance. Lets take the super unappealing aspect of atma farming and toss it in diadem and call it new....i like ffxiv i really do but come onnnnn THIS

We waited months for this boring content?

This was delayed for? Reasons?

We're grinding for gear that is irrelevant. . . again.

Nothing like feeling like you're level one. . . again.

Artificially inflating difficulty by an ilvl 300 sync. Terrible exp gain.

So many bad decisions.

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Originally Posted by RenOkamiya

Let's talk about some overwelming bad design.

It gives you the opportunity to lvl job gear to higher ilvl (335 and 350 for what i've seen), yet, ilvl is SYNCH in eureka at 300, so basically useless for it.

The 350 upgrade WOULD be usable in actual raid content, but you will mostly have to farm mob brainless and pray RNJesus to have less than 100h+ off doing so. Which, by the time you finally get ONE piece while not going insane in the process, 4.3 will be out and the gear will be, once again useless.

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A) the eureka gear is designed for outside eureka, not inside. It is a reward for doing the content, not an aid for within the content.

B) We dont know what drop rates are like at higher levels and from better mobs, and the strategy might change at higher levels.

C) People need to stop presuming they know the entirety of the content from spending 5mins inside. Its fine if you don't like it, but don't presume to know the impact that it has on the rewards or the rest of the game from such limited experience.

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Originally Posted by St0rmchild

Total trash, free to play RNG level mobile phone game inspired low drop rate grinder.

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expecting some cash shop loot boxes to ease the grind any day now

2hrs in and I already dislike it.