FFXIV named "worst FF ever" by IGN.

IGN.com have posted an article about the best and worst FF games released.
FFXIV is declared the weakest installment in the series.....oops...:eek:

http://games.ign.com/articles/121/1217042p1.html

Thoughts?

until 2.0 there is nothing we can do with the onslaught of negative reviews that FFXIV has gotten

This is why it was important for Square to keep gamers' good will all the way to 2.0. With the introduction of the subscription model and mounts that are essentially designed to grab more players that good will has been ruined. Square needs players to talk about improvements in the game building up to 2.0 - it's marketing and the few subscriptions to the game shouldn't substantially affect the development of 2.0 if they want it to be a success.

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Oh no, I can hear them coming.. run away!

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Originally Posted by Platinumstorm

This is why it was important for Square to keep gamers' good will all the way to 2.0. With the introduction of the subscription model and mounts that are essentially designed to grab more players that good will has been ruined. Square needs players to talk about improvements in the game building up to 2.0 - it's marketing and the few subscriptions to the game shouldn't substantially affect the development of 2.0 if they want it to be a success.

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tl;dr version : "I don't like the goobbue mount"

*sigh*
Well, respect to placing VI at #1
And i suppose the article does write its reasoning well.
It does not brand this to XIV forever, but looks at the game as 1.0
That's fine with me, and probably accurate even today as a look at now, and not later.

Just shows how retarded IGN is. Comparing XI or XIV to any other FF release is like comparing apples to oranges.

I can understand that, but still.
IGN.

Besides, 13 was the worst.

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It has improved greatly since those days and the plan laid out by the development team for version 2.0 shows promise. [...] MMOs are long-term investments and perhaps once Square-Enix makes enough changes Final Fantasy XIV may live up to the brand's pedigree.

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At least they're hopeful.

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Originally Posted by Brigandier

Just shows how retarded IGN is. Comparing XI or XIV to any other FF release is like comparing apples to oranges.

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IGN is all about which publisher pays them the most for the best reviews. Look at TOR for example. IGN gave that game a glowing review, yet the launch looks like its MORE dismal than what XIV's was.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Besides, 13 was the worst.

At least they're hopeful.

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/Agree.

FFXIII was eye candy and nothing else. I am a loyal fan of the franchise, and have played every final fantasy.

Having said that, I found the storyline non-engaging and the game to be very forgettable as a whole. (I can't even name 4 characters or 1 town). And the voice acting for some of the characters... *shudder*

As for IGN, a hopeful tone at the end is the most we can ask for at this point.

At least this installs some silver lining for prospect players.

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Originally Posted by Joakim

IGN.com have posted an article about the best and worst FF games released.
FFXIV is declared the weakest installment in the series.....oops...:eek:

http://games.ign.com/articles/121/1217042p1.html

Thoughts?

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This should be shocking to noone.

They start off by saying that its changing. But really, let's be honest, this was the worst FF ever at launch.


But I've never been a fan of IGN's articles anyway. Can't spell ignorant without IGN.

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Originally Posted by Joakim

IGN.com have posted an article about the best and worst FF games released.
FFXIV is declared the weakest installment in the series.....oops...:eek:

http://games.ign.com/articles/121/1217042p1.html

Thoughts?

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How is that surprising to anyone?

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Originally Posted by Avraym

/Agree.

FFXIII was eye candy and nothing else. I am a loyal fan of the franchise, and have played every final fantasy.

Having said that, I found the storyline non-engaging and the game to be very forgettable as a whole. (I can't even name 4 characters or 1 town). And the voice acting for some of the characters... *shudder*

As for IGN, a hopeful tone at the end is the most we can ask for at this point.

At least this installs some silver lining for prospect players.

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I agree with you and him as well. I can't remember XIII's NPCs either at all but in the same breath it should be noted that at very least I remembered the storyline of it.

XIV's storyline to me is almost as good as no storyline at all and I can't remember any of it because it's such a mess. Same goes for NPC's it's sort of an insult to NPC quest characters in other FF titles to call XIV's quest givers characters at all. They're leve cards and that's all they are currently.


Still looking at the big picture XIII as a game is a complete failure to me as it's almost like a parody of so-called "modern western game design" whereas XIV still is under development and it can be made into a good game if SE let's go of the bad design choices that are never going to be fun. (see all the reviews for further info, do we really need to keep giving them the same critique they've received from pre-launch?)

Final Fantasy XIII > Final Fantasy XII

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Originally Posted by Scherwiz

Final Fantasy XIII > Final Fantasy XII

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I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR LIES!

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Originally Posted by Seif

I agree with you and him as well. I can't remember XIII's NPCs either at all but in the same breath it should be noted that at very least I remembered the storyline of it.

XIV's storyline to me is almost as good as no storyline at all and I can't remember any of it because it's such a mess. Same goes for NPC's it's sort of an insult to NPC quest characters in other FF titles to call XIV's quest givers characters at all. They're leve cards and that's all they are currently.


Still looking at the big picture XIII as a game is a complete failure to me as it's almost like a parody of so-called "modern western game design" whereas XIV still is under development and it can be made into a good game if SE let's go of the bad design choices that are never going to be fun. (see all the reviews for further info, do we really need to keep giving them the same critique they've received from pre-launch?)

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I agree whole heartedly. The FFXIV storyline has run circles around itself, to the point where the players look into things that aren't even there, in hopes of clarity of what we are fighting towards/against.

We can probabally attribute this to the fact that the vision the original producer had compared to Yoshii's, are at opposite ends.

Still, the focus on the Umbral events shed light on the direction the game is going, at least.

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Originally Posted by AarosLunos

IGN is all about which publisher pays them the most for the best reviews. Look at TOR for example. IGN gave that game a glowing review, yet the launch looks like its MORE dismal than what XIV's was.

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Not even close. I have active subs in both games and have done tor end game. Yes there's bugs, as was to be expected, but to compare XIV's launch to TOR's launch and saying the latter's was worse is far and away untrue. XIV didn't even have end game at launch, or PvP or anything at all other than leves. At least TOR has a dozen instances, with hardmode and had 8/16 man operation content and they just added another one.

But if thinking tor was as bad at xiv at launch helps you sleep at night, have at it.

Anyhow, IGN has some spotty reviews but XIV definitely was and is the worst in the series so far, if you can even compare console games to mmos in the same vein (which you can't). Regardless of best/worst opinions, it certainly gave the final fantasy title a bad name. Even Wada felt that way and stated it publicly. All we can hope for is they buck up and get the game to the level of quality expected of both a ff game and a modern mmo. The latter is key.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR LIES!

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Don't believe Ondore's lies!

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Originally Posted by neorei

until 2.0 there is nothing we can do with the onslaught of negative reviews that FFXIV has gotten

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Sadly, this might not be true, cant expect 2.0 to be a miracle, SE have a tendency with every game to do things differently and more often than not it bites them in the ass. So we will have to see when there is more information, it still will lack PVP on release, which many of your typical MMO players will be pissed, it will also be p2p which many will say "is it better than gw2 which is free?" and lose out there.

I garauntee 2.0 will still receive some bad reviews, but all with a general "going in a better direction" motto.

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Originally Posted by Scherwiz

Final Fantasy XIII > Final Fantasy XII

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i really liked XII as well but i can sign that, i enjoyed the characters and storyline of XIII a lot more personally.

on the article, at least he didn't just blindly bash the game like the others but i kinda feel like his standpoint comes from pre 1.18 still, on the other hand i cant really say FFXIV is a better FF than any of the other main titles right now (excluding spinoffs) that doesn't mean its a bad game now thou.

I know I might get flamed for this one, but I do agree with IGN that Final Fantasy 14 is the worst. And yes, this is also counting the game that shall never be be said..... Final Fantasy 10 -2

IGN? Seriously?

Personally, I couldn't care less. I stopped reading reviews,articles and other stuff in big gaming sites like IGN, Gamespot, Kotaku, etc a while ago.

But, sadly this impacts the image of the game. I sometimes feel that the whole gaming press still thinks that the game is the same as it was a year ago. And the comments show that (people where complaining about surplus/fatigue on another website a few weeks ago).

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Originally Posted by AarosLunos

IGN is all about which publisher pays them the most for the best reviews. Look at TOR for example. IGN gave that game a glowing review, yet the launch looks like its MORE dismal than what XIV's was.

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There's actually a screenshot going around showing that the initial review of SWTOR was 5 or 6 @ IGN. They took it down and then they published the 9.0 something review.

As for anyone taking IGN seriously, please take a look at this. >>click for magic<<

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Originally Posted by Brigandier

Just shows how retarded IGN is. Comparing XI or XIV to any other FF release is like comparing apples to oranges.

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this is probly a huge point people wont understand

its like comparing warcraft 1-3 to world of warcraft too


there are so many other things you can use these comparisons on but unfortunately a ton of people out there will just lose the meaning of it all in the end


on a side note, its interesting how little people mention 14 in the comments themselves(if at all, 4 pages and i saw 1 mention of it)
i think the general reader/commenter even understands this point which is amazing

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Final Fantasy XIV doesn't win "worst Final Fantasy" because it had a bad launch. Though, for clarity's sake, the launch bombed. It was incomplete when Square-Enix declared it ready for market in September 2010 and that showed in its horrible user interface, performance issues, and the bewildering number of inconveniences associated with travel, questing, and trading items. It has improved greatly since those days and the plan laid out by the development team for version 2.0 shows promise.

Despite how quickly Square-Enix apologized for Final Fantasy XIV, restructured the development team, and maintained the free trial period, XIV still represents the worst Final Fantasy because it betrays how Square-Enix has faltered over the years. Eorzea is a colossal, beautiful world, but all sense of wonder lies crushed under the weight of maddening designs that seem better suited to drive players out than draw them in.

MMOs are long-term investments and perhaps once Square-Enix makes enough changes Final Fantasy XIV may live up to the brand's pedigree. Either way, Final Fantasy XIV remains a powerful lesson of how even the biggest names in gaming can crash and burn without the proper care.

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This... is a very fair assessment. It highlights the value of FFXIV's experience as a strong lesson to SE.

It also leave room for the company to demonstrate their ability to turn things around and do things right come 2.0. A colossal challenge in front of a very critical media, to be sure, but doable. SE will probably emerge all the wiser for the experience (we hope).

Well, it was expected IMO. If i was SE i'd even rename the 2.0 to FFXV and just leave XIV alone. It will be very hard to get rid of XIV release disaster so the best would be making 2.0 having a really fresh release...or regardless of how good/bad it become the release will be always haunting it.

About worst FF, i vote on FFVIII...i just hated that game with passion! Draw system was by far one of the worst battle mechanics i ever saw in a game.

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Originally Posted by viion

Sadly, this might not be true, cant expect 2.0 to be a miracle, SE have a tendency with every game to do things differently and more often than not it bites them in the ass. So we will have to see when there is more information, it still will lack PVP on release, which many of your typical MMO players will be pissed, it will also be p2p which many will say "is it better than gw2 which is free?" and lose out there.

I garauntee 2.0 will still receive some bad reviews, but all with a general "going in a better direction" motto.

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Yup it's not like 2.0 is going to be a different game just new environment tweaks.
Also there will be all the same systems we have now in the game that I think even the whitest of the knights can admit; aren't enough but before the year ends we'll probably get a few patches that alleviate these issues a bit.

In few years SE will have worked on the features that are possible with the new server structure and also they've had time to tweak them to be more fun.

The question is how many players will still be in the game and will it make big enough or any waves in the gaming media for people to notice the changes.

There are also still systems that hold the game back and despite promising an overhaul. At least from my point of view the battle system to me feels pretty much exactly the same as it did in beta days. Yes I'm not smashing action button anymore but as annoying as that was in the end of the day it was the least of the battle system's faults that still are in the game.

Classes are still mostly the same but most importantly the actions are too and when they're not they're way too obscure to apply to most normal fights.

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Originally Posted by Katt

I know I might get flamed for this one, but I do agree with IGN that Final Fantasy 14 is the worst. And yes, this is also counting the game that shall never be be said..... Final Fantasy 10 -2

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At the risk of also being flamed, I too prefered Charlies AngelsFFX-2 over FFXIV.

Having said that, I loved FFX and developed a love for the characters / scenarios / towns / storylines / music / battle ECT ECT (which carried into FFX-2), so my opinion is a biased one.

IGN caters towards mainstream gamers and game gurrrls (shudder)..heh so I really don't mind if those types do not come to play XIV >.>; Most of the stuff I've read on there seems to come from biased raging fanboys. I consider them on the same level as fail as g4 (shudder again) >.>

If people want to read a review and let some editor think for them..that's fine. Yeah sure this game does need a lot of improvement (and that is what 2.0 seems to be) but I can say this, I am having more fun playing XIV then I did XIII lol.

i still have the nintendo, with final fantasy 1 [and dragon warrior from enix] and the strategy guide. bought playstation for final fantasy 7? the first playstation has cloud strife? and chocba breeding.. i have been with final fantasy 14 collector day one, have given up several times, but with the introduction of the goobue riding, i see that the original spitit of plain old ignorant fun is alive and is making me look forward to the game again. here's to the future

But that's wrong!

FFII is worse than release XIV.

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Originally Posted by Brigandier

Just shows how retarded IGN is. Comparing XI or XIV to any other FF release is like comparing apples to oranges.

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Well, FFXI and FFXIV have the franchise name, I don´t see a problem.

There anyone here who does not agree that FFXIV is the worst of all?

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Originally Posted by Joakim

IGN.com have posted an article about the best and worst FF games released.
FFXIV is declared the weakest installment in the series.....oops...:eek:

http://games.ign.com/articles/121/1217042p1.html

Thoughts?

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Another Review of People which dont have a Clue what they are talking about? lol

Its just another Article from a guy, who puts in personal thoughts into a Review without any Backups. That pretty common nowadays and im not surprised.

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Originally Posted by Whax

There anyone here who does not agree that FFXIV is the worst of all?

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I like XIV more than I liked VIII, IX and XIII.

13 was the worst by a long way. 14 has been climbing the ranks slowly in my books and still has the potential to reach top 3 which is currently 7, 6 and 11

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

I like XIV more than I liked VIII, IX and XIII.

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liked this game more then 8 or 9 GTFO.


9 was great. one of my favorites. 8 was not the best but it still holds a place with me. XIV only holds hope that it could get better. nothing more.

im not sure theres a part of XIV that does not just drag on and bore me.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

I like XIV more than I liked VIII, IX and XIII.

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same for me even X and XII I enjoyed less than this.

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Originally Posted by WOmega

liked this game more then 8 or 9 GTFO.


9 was great. one of my favorites. 8 was not the best but it still holds a place with me. XIV only holds hope that it could get better. nothing more.

im not sure theres a part of XIV that does not just drag on and bore me.

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Originally Posted by Metin

same for me even X and XII I enjoyed less than this.

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X I can understand, because Tidus was beyond boring, but I personally feel that XII is the greatest single-player FF title. The amount of money I would throw at Square-Enix if they translated the International Zodiac Job System version.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

ITT: Opinions are now facts.

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they damn well are.