Hi everyone! Three star crafting is not too hard this time around, but getting there can be a bit complicated with all of the melds, gear and finding a good rotation. To make things easier I have created some lazy NQ food macros for the new three star recipes for both specialist and non-specialist. While using these macros if you want near 100% HQ for end-goods you should start with around 7000-9000 starting quality or 2-3 HQ base ingredients.
These macros shine the best when making 35 durability intermediate materials and 70 durability food. This is due to both the specialist and non-specialist macros having the ability consistently HQ items with low-to-no starting quality. For food and intermediate materials this is great as we often don't have as many HQ ingredients as ideal and simply have to make due. Without further ado here are my lazy Macros using NQ Tempura, no potions and minimum stats. Also thanks to everyone doing theory craft on the boards. These rotations are a composition of techniques and theories from a number of people!
** Note these macros do not have any poor protection for Byregots, so feel free to create an if-branch macro and manually check for poor status. I personally don't because I'm incredibly lazy and don't pay much attention while crafting.
*** Note the specialist rotations list requiring 1520 craftsmanship, the extra 20 is expected to come from your specialist soul crystal (not extra melds). Also note if you are using yellow script mainhand or other equipment you will need to use either HQ Tempura or Cunnings Craftsman's Tea to make up for the missing CP.
Here is an efficient meld set you can use with my rotations, they minimize materia usage and do not require specialist soulstones. You can fill any extra slots with IV control materia for best results:
NQ Tempura Meld Recommendations (No VIs, No V overmelds, no penta melded accessories):
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/15L1A
3* Specialist 70 Durability Macro, Slight RNG, 7000 Quality Optimal for HQ:
Required stats 1562 Craftsman and 516 CP || Character stats 1520 Craftsman, 473 CP and NQ Tempura Platter
Note the extra quality allows one patient touch to fail while still achieving 100% HQ
http://drive.google.com/uc?export=vi...SJMVxou105220m
3* Non-Specialist 70 Durability Macro, Slight RNG, 9000 Quality Optimal for HQ:Quote:
Specialist 70 Durability Start:
/ac "Initial Preparations" <wait.3>
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Piece by Piece" <wait.3>
/ac "Piece by Piece" <wait.3>
/ac "Patient Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Patient Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch II" <wait.3>
/ac "Specialty: Reflect" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis III" <wait.3>
/ac "Manipulation II" <wait.2>
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Ingenuity II" <wait.2>
/echo Macro #1 complete <se.1>
Specialist 70 Durability End:
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Steady Hand" <wait.2>
/ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac "Ingenuity II" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Observe" <wait.3>
/ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Observe" <wait.3>
/ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
Required stats 1542 Craftsman and 516 CP || Character stats 1500 Craftsman, 473 CP and NQ Tempura Platter
Note the extra quality allows one patient touch to fail while still achieving 100% HQ
http://drive.google.com/uc?export=vi...N0ca1g6Mkxt3Cu
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Non-Specialist 70 Durability Start:
/ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
/ac "Manipulation II" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Piece by Piece" <wait.3>
/ac "Patient Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Patient Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Observe" <wait.3>
/ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/echo Macro #1 complete <se.1>
Non-Specialist 70 Durability End:
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Ingenuity II" <wait.2>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Observe" <wait.3>
/ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Ingenuity II" <wait.2>
/ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Observe" <wait.3>
/ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
Stormblood 3* Crafting Macros for the Lazy Crafter
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02-24-2018, 06:49 AMKatlynaStormblood 3* Crafting Macros for the Lazy Crafter
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02-24-2018, 06:50 AMKatlyna
Note for the 35 Durability Macros I will often craft with zero or low starting quality. These macros will HQ roughly 60% of the time with zero quality, which I've found acceptable for crafting a mix of NQ/HQ materials for use in end goods.
3* Specialist 35 Durability Macro, Slight RNG, 6000 Quality Optimal for HQ:
Required stats 1562 Craftsman and 516 CP || Character stats 1520 Craftsman, 473 CP and NQ Tempura Platter
http://drive.google.com/uc?export=vi...XKU4ubfATAsdQi
3* Non-Specialist 35 Durability Macro, Slight RNG, 7000 Quality Optimal for HQ:Quote:
Specialist 35 Durability Start:
/ac "Initial Preparations" <wait.3>
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Piece by Piece" <wait.3>
/ac "Patient Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Patient Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Specialty: Reinforce" <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Observe" <wait.3>
/ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Manipulation II" <wait.2>
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Ingenuity II" <wait.2>
/echo Macro #1 complete <se.1>
Specialist 35 Durability End:
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Steady Hand" <wait.2>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
/ac "Ingenuity II" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Observe" <wait.3>
/ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis III" <wait.3>
/echo Macro #2 complete <se.14>
Required stats 1542 Craftsman and 516 CP || Character stats 1500 Craftsman, 473 CP and NQ Tempura Platter
http://drive.google.com/uc?export=vi...XMtfYho_f_Jm2u
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Non-Specialist 35 Durability Start:
/ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
/ac "Manipulation II" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Patient Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Patient Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch II" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch II" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Observe" <wait.3>
/ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Manipulation II" <wait.2>
/echo Macro #1 complete <se.1>
Non-Specialist 35 Durability End:
/ac "Ingenuity II" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Steady Hand" <wait.2>
/ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac "Ingenuity II" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
/echo Macro #2 complete <se.14>
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02-24-2018, 12:26 PMKatlyna
So some folks ingame have asked me similar questions as the last time I posted macros with patient touch... being patient touch ewwww. So I wanted to share my experience.
I craft lots every week making our FC raid food, my groups raid potions, raid gear for the market, my group, and friends. With the macros above using the recommended starting quality, I haven't had any NQ failures yet. Statistically speaking if you use the recommended quality you're looking at a macro with around 1% NQ chance over around 100 items crafted. For me if I accept one NQ item out every 100 its not an issue because I'll save more than the items cost in skipping HQ food, potions and more expensive melds. The terrible budget melds I posted, are essentially what I'm using myself. I can easily afford more expensive melds, but I just don't need them outside of theory crafting new rotations. Last this approach saves me time and sanity and being a lazy crafter this I love more than anything else!
With all of this said, if you craft one 3 star item a week. You may find that a 100% macro using HQ food and potions to be more efficient, because a single failure will not be offset by your food/potion/time usage. Likewise if you don't craft much and can only afford cheep melds, then you'll likely get more millage out of these macros than the 100% ones which have higher requirements to work.
So pick out what fits your crafting style the best, and have fun with it. And don't fret when you break something, or NQ something. Because trust me... I break things every week not paying attention! -
02-24-2018, 01:34 PMCleanse
Well said and thanks.
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02-25-2018, 01:55 AMCaimie_TsukinoGood job, Katty! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Katlyna
These look great, and I'll try them out soon! Since they use Patient Touches, can they provide more quality than the existing macros? I am willing to increase the RNG but boost final quality... -
02-25-2018, 06:32 AMKatlynaThe Specialist rotation I posted puts out a small bit of extra quality if both patient touches hit (in comparison to the 100% Reddit macro post). The Non-specialist rotation I posted puts out a MASSIVE amount of extra quality if both patient touches hit and the same quality if only one hits (in comparison to the 100% Reddit macro post). The quality requirements they put on the non-specialist rotation in the Reddit macro are pretty unreasonable at 1536 control. They should have just used a lower control number and noted you need more starting quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino
As for the 35 durability macros mine put out huge amounts of extra quality (with rng). I strongly suspect looking at the requirements posted in the Reddit thread (1550 control) and still requiring 2000-5000 quality that my 35 durability macros are simply superior for the goal. The goal being HQing as many intermediate materials as possible with limited HQ ingredients (if any). I think intermediate materials are probably one of the places patient touch shines in being able to achieve HQ without huge amounts of control or starting quality.
So I think I see what you're getting at Caimie, its quite likely some people may want the 35 durability macros from me, but would then flip over and use 100% macros with HQ food and potions. That would totally make sense and probably be more efficient for most people! -
02-28-2018, 08:45 AMhistoireancienneI just wanted to say a big THANK YOU for the 35 dura. non-spec macro - has worked like an utter charm for me, with very few NQs even from all NQ ingredients. I do flip to a 100% with HQ food/tea macro for final product, but you've saved me a huge amount of frustration for the intermediate steps!Quote:
Originally Posted by Katlyna
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02-28-2018, 10:07 PMKatlyna
Welcome Mingma glad they were able to help!
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03-06-2018, 09:25 PMKalayel
Hello! Just wanted to say, your rotations are amazing. I despise RNG in this game (been consistently NQing i350 stuff with 96% chance of HQ) but your rotations do wonders on 35 durability items.
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03-07-2018, 09:52 AMLiam_Harper
Also found the 35 Dura Non-specialist macro very useful, cheers for that :)
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03-07-2018, 10:37 AMCaimie_Tsukino
I finally got to test these out. Your the 35 durab non-specialist macro is just soooo strong! And it is truly wonderful for crafting intermediates from pure NQ mats. Even if some touches failed, it still has a better chance of HQ-ing then S'yahn Tias's no-RNG macro when crafting from pure NQ mats. This is exactly what I was looking for - sacrificing a little bit of fidelity for more power - at a lower cost of CP.
In addition, I found the 70 durab non-specialist macro also very useful for my CUL to massively make 3 star food from almost pure NQ mats. I haven't tried pure NQ mats, but it's been working wonders for me with a tad bit of HQ mats.
The fact that both of these use only 516 CP is also extremely convenient, as we don't need to use any expensive food/medicine at all. I've been using either NQ tempura or just Baked Onion Soup.
If you don't mind, I'm going to include these into my crafting guide. -
03-07-2018, 11:46 AMKatlynaAbsolutely Caimie <3 your guides they are so lovely for pointing friends and FC members to for the wealth of crafting questions which come up for progression. I'm glad to hear the 35 durability macros are working so well!Quote:
Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino
Anyone feel free to post and share these with others in other articles/avenues. I'm most happy when I see others crafting and enjoying themselves. -
03-09-2018, 11:29 PMo0DVS0o
Hello all,
Just wanted to share my rotation for crafting 3 star items, just cos my stats are a little different to most of what I see on here. Note I use different food to most people and will need some HQ materials to start with.
70 Durability Non-Specialist:
https://imgur.com/2GnCYuj
35 Durability Non-Specialist
https://imgur.com/XcrhxV6
35 Durability Specialist
https://imgur.com/ePCZTxi
Edit: If I can figure out how to put images in this post would be better... -
03-09-2018, 11:58 PMKatlyna
Well Hralien you took minimum stats to a new bar LOL. You have my respect for making that work. Definitely not something I'll be using, but I love your post for theorycraft sake!
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03-10-2018, 12:39 AMo0DVS0o
Aw hah, I didn't think they were that minimum :P I am not sure the simulator is exactly accurate when it imported my character but I usually have around 1500 craft and control, just lack the CP :P I have CP (IV) in any gear that supports it, I just havent bothered with overmelding it with lower ranks for the 1-2 CP I miss on some items. You never know though, there may be someone else out there with such stats ;)
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03-10-2018, 10:37 AMKatlynaI was SUPER tired when I posted and the first time I looked I thought the food brought your stats up to the min to start the synth. I've written macros like that so I thought I was looking at that. MAHBAD!Quote:
Originally Posted by o0DVS0o
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03-12-2018, 02:06 PMEmmaVirgin
awesome work but did you ever thought about that the price terrorism on the board is getting more worse with threads like this? ^^
for myself i dont care cuz i have enough gil but sometimes if i decide to sell 1 or 2 350 weapons its hard enough to sell them even without the macrobots.
on moogle i have to check the price all 5-10 minutes or a few others allready killed it.
i hope they change some things: levelquest - only with own signature , macros not possible for crafting. -
03-12-2018, 05:25 PMCaimie_TsukinoWell... firstly, that is not exactly a concern for people who enjoy crafting more than anything else...Quote:
Originally Posted by EmmaVirgin
Secondly, the thought of "keeping it to yourself, so you have an advantage" only works for a very short period of time when a new difficult starred item is released anyway. These i350 gear/weapon recipes are out long enough for saturation of products on the market. Releasing macros like these is not going to have any further impact on market saturation imo.
This is currently the case for Collectables... But I am just bored by the low difficulty of Collectables. Back then, getting a master recipes required only a small amount of a very difficult untradable item to make. Now, it's just very boring but massive scrip grind... Sometimes, I see people talking about themselves "I have all master books! I'm a true master of crafting!"... and all I could visualize was someone who grabbed a macro from the web, and repeatedly grind scrips... -___-'Quote:
Originally Posted by EmmaVirgin
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03-12-2018, 10:40 PMKatlynaI giggled when I read your post <3 You're 100% accurate though. Posting easy macro recipes can damage hard work early crafters do for their own macros and market setup. This is the exact reason I don't post my solutions until later in a patch. While I don't need the extra money its not fair to others working hard early in patches. It also gives me time to get them working extremely well and burn out any problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by EmmaVirgin
None the less I do concur with your frustration on pricing and the current market. There are entirely too many people floundering for the same sales right now in most markets. And some people spastically change prices. I remind myself that I can't have all the sales, and just update periodically to match the bottom price. I've also recently gone out of the way to name my retainers so they are instantly recognizable to people who know me. I have many FC members, ex FC members, and friends who happily buy my goods both from the marketboard and do custom orders. It helps nudge sales so it might be something to try.
Especially when you have adorable names like Emmy Shortcake <3
As Camie promotes, I'm happiest when promoting others learning to craft and being able to enjoy the crafting system. Unfortunately this also means teaching people that crafting can be a money trap if you don't invest well beyond your initial investment. Being able to craft the newest goods is not the same as work required to profit making goods... and many people in crafting don't realize that until they hit the pitfalls you are noting Emmy! -
04-01-2018, 11:49 PMValcarde
Oh lordie thank you for these.
I was trying to craft a nightsteel axe for a friend of mine and most of the macros I was looking at were calling for insane stats, and this is what I need as a mid-skill crafter. I have less CP but that was easily shored up by just using HQ Tempura which I can make myself with NQ mats anyway. -
04-16-2018, 11:33 PMMarcellus_Cassius
Thanks so much for these, they are really great, much love.
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04-17-2018, 07:29 AMKatlyna
Glad they have helped some folks and thanks for all the fish... I mean feedback!
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08-11-2018, 08:27 AMPalindrome3Dbut if the second Patient touch fails it sets you back to like not having done it at all :'( I think thats what happened, i couldn't follow the bread crumbs back but it failed, broke the craft and lost all the things lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Katlyna
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08-11-2018, 10:02 AMCaimie_TsukinoWith the new i340 gear set and new food, these macros don't apply anymore. Take me for an example, I have modified Katlyna' macros to fit my newer stats... first replacing the patient touches with Hasty Touch IIs, and then later with Basic Touches... and eventually even added another Ingen1 in front of the first chain of touches. We are constantly evolving ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Palindrome3D
Katlyna's rotations here are still useful though.. on the sense that it sets the "basic blue print", so we can modify on top to make even better rotations! -
08-17-2018, 10:52 AMKatlynaReally sorry this is SE's fault for making crafting super obtuse and having items of the same star level have notably different difficulty. I was going to release a 3.5 star lazy crafting guide, but quiet frankly I've been way too busy IRL. I REALLY REALLY wish SE would quit releasing new more difficult content under the same star level though. I'll have to see if my reporter friend can feedback that issue... because anyone following any guide has run into your same problem (including myself when I'm sleepy).Quote:
Originally Posted by Palindrome3D
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08-17-2018, 03:24 PMCaimie_TsukinoHey, Katty, lazy crafters are supposedly to be too lazy to revise anything! There is nothing wrong here! LOL ;););)Quote:
Originally Posted by Katlyna
And you're right... the "same star level but different difficulty" thingy is starting to annoy me. -
08-19-2018, 09:34 PMKatlynaQuote:
Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino
Haha thanks Camie and you're totally right!