Role change anxiety is maybe a thing?

You've likely heard of tanxiety (tanking anxiety) but DPS anxiety? I’m (probably) not crazy, hear me out.

I’ve leveled a fair few dps to 70 now (SAM, SMN, BRD, RDM and nearly NIN) and recently I’ve started doing my weekly Sigma normal clears on RDM. I main WHM and more broadly I heal, despite having WAR at 70 I’ve never tanked anything but dungeons and normal mode trials, all I do is heal.

DPSing in content where low dps can actually kill you (Rab add phases and the like, not even talking Savage) is actually surprisingly intimidating to me. As a healer I certainly do my fair share of dps but I do understand on a fundamental level that it's all gravy and if I do have to drop it even during a burn phase to heal that's what I will do and my party should still be able to hit whatever damage threshold they need without me.

As a DPS I don't have that luxury and it's a bit scary. I find myself obsessing about gear and optimization more than I ever have as a healer and even though I know these things should be important across the board I feel the pressure more on RDM than I have ever before, to the point that I’m debating buying the RDM mendacity weapon first just so that I can remain competitive if I have my rotation down.

I understand RDM is “easy” compared to the more complicated DPS. The only other DPS I’ve played at 70 more than a smidge is BRD and RDM is certainly easier to follow but I still feel like I need to always be pushing that much harder. I don't need a lecture about how SMN is so much more difficult to optimize - I get that, I do, but right now this is my hurdle.

At this point it isn't cutting into my enjoyment of the game but I fear it could in the future if I don't reign it in. I was playing with some much more skilled friends last night just doing some Sigma normal and even though I know they're all super cool people and would never get judgy on me I felt kind of embarrassed and definitely made like 12 too many self-deprecating jokes trying (and failing) to cover up ky insecurity.

I play on PS4 so I can't parse myself but I do have some friends who parse and I’ve started comparing myself to some more successful RDMs out there. It's been helpful - I discovered I wasn't making use of Swiftcast the way that other RDMs do, I need to use it to fish for procs earlier and more frequently. I also learned Embolden buffs my melee combo because it counts as magical damage when it's enchanted. I’m hoping making use of tips and tricks like these that I can glean from fflogs will help me improve which will help me feel more confident.

I was kind of wondering if this was a more general feeling or if I’m the crazy one here. I wonder if it's something that anyone feels getting more involved in another role? I have friends who swap roles like it's no big deal. Maybe I'm just being a drama llama.

Lemme know what you think!

Sounds normal if you're just really used to playing a certain way. Back during 1.0 I only played dps and coming into 2.0 because the dungeon queues were so long I ended up playing on whm then eventually sch for raiding.

I basically ended up getting stuck playing healer for a very long time. I really enjoyed it but after awhile it started getting boring so I switched to my drg but in group content I never felt I performed as well as I could on a whm or sch.

I also think on healer you get so much control and power that going as a dps you feel far more vulnerable. I guess a lot of it comes down to personality types.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

As a DPS I don't have that luxury and it's a bit scary.

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The trade off is that you don't need to worry as much about the tank getting a buster to the face (healers and tanks managing their cooldowns) or raid-wide damage to heal through, all things other people would find stressful but you're probably used to it. Like Kule said, you're just exposed to a different kind of responsibility you didn't have to bother with before. Getting out of your comfort zone would make anyone feel uneasy.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

DPSing in content where low dps can actually kill you (Rab add phases and the like, not even talking Savage) is actually surprisingly intimidating to me.

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I'm sort of the opposite of your situation. I've always only played DPS (mostly Bard and Red Mage, with a smattering of Ninja, although I haven't brought Ninja to 70 yet). My FC mates have been trying to get me to level a tank, so I tried that to about 40 (Paladin) and it just wasn't clicking with me and it was rather stressful. I switched to leveling a healer (White Mage), and have recently gotten it to 70 and started doing end-game content with it. It still does stress me out a bit, but also it's a relief not having to be on top of things as a DPS (I do still DPS when appropriate, let's not get into that).

There is definitely a bit of anxiety (or a lot, when it comes to me and tanking) in switching roles, but I'm sure it lessens as you get more used to the job.

I think you're putting a lot of pressure on yourself to become better.

And it's perfecty normal, especially among people who eventually become good players.

You WILL get better and then you'll enjoy it :) At that point at least you'll get to be one of those players who tried and succeeded rather than the bad players who just don't care at all if they're bringing down the rest of the group.

The reason you didn't feel it on heals is because you already reached that point without noticing it.

I had a similar fear. I was fine with healing and doing some dps on my Scholar, but once I realized that the top scholars could do way more DPS while still pumping out respectable heals, I felt self-conscious, like I wasn't pulling my weight. I then ended up worrying about my role change (from a healer who did dps, to a dps who did heals :P. what, it's very different from a mind standpoint!)

Then I did SSS and I failed..miserably and realized I needed to study up.

I studied logs, I watched recordings done by scholars (not guides like what Mr.Happy has, they're nice but that's not the the kind of video I mean. Rather I mean actual full runs recorded by a scholar). Using youtube's time replay, I would watch on slow speeds so I could catch ALL the ogcd's. After that I hit SSS for the duty I was trying to beat and I succeeded \o/

I'm sure if you keep studying RDM logs and videos, you'll be fine.

Maybe it's because I DPS so much as WHM that I don't feel this, but I do feel tanxiety at times. But that mostly stems from me not having up to date equipment (like not wanting to be dropped into The Vault with all Ironworks for example). But I can understand why some people could feel rhis way, but really in most situations 1 bad DPS won't kill a party.

I don't feel that pressure when playing as RDM. This is because I already feel pressured to pull as much DPS as I can while not letting the party fall. As RDM I must pull as much DPS as well and the numbers are bigger (twice as much as I can pull as WHM), but I feel somewhat powerful, while as WHM I feel weak, because my damage is too low, even equiped with full-aug-shire on both jobs and doing level 60 contents.

The only downside being RDM are the queue. It is hard to go from a somewhat-insta-q to a 30-minutes-q. But I do FATEs or beast tribes while I wait. I would love to have open-world dungeons to do while waiting.

I've only played DPS classes thus far myself, and I can definitely say it makes me nervous to try a different role out. Someday I'm sure I'll try it, but I do worry I won't be able to cut it as a tank or healer.

Healer main but I love melee DPS - playing a caster to me is like playing a healer with no healing buttons basically, the "style" feels pretty much the same tbh. Melee though have positionals and boss cleaves and other stuff to worry about, on top of some (DRG notably) feeling really flashy and high octane. I like playing BRD too mostly because with 4.0 the song gameplay actually feels intuitive and fluid now - I'd still rather play DRG for stuff though, if mine were actually geared. Hella fun and jumps makes you feel like a badass.

For sure, it's normal. I'm a tank main but still get a bit nervous when I do Ex or Savage on MCH or SAM for the first time, even when I've already cleared as a tank. Eventually you get in the swing of things (for that particular fight at least) and it becomes much more comfortable. Just got keep playing, and scrutinizing yourself, if you want to get better at dps roles. Sounds like you are on the right track ;)

I think this is s normal feeling to have with any job/class role that you aren't experienced with, Moro.

As someone that's mained dps classes for over 14 years, I actually find healing to be incredibly intimidating, at least until I started healing more on FFXIV, so I'm slowly adjusting to it.


I think RDM is the perfect class yoy could start with so that you gain more experience and hopefully it won't be as intimidating to you later. All the best of luck to you.

Before FFXIV I used to play healer or supportive roles but I actually wanted to try my hand at tanking here and I definitely love it. But imo you shouldn't be afraid to try other experiences, in the end it will make it funnier. Sometimes I can get really tired of tanking, and I switch to my AST. In fact I feel way more comfortable farming Byakko Ex (for example) as healer than as tank. Of course in the beginning it may seem scary, but practice makes you better.

I've felt similar.

I almost always tank or heal in dungeons, but every now and then I'll Q up as a DPS and I'm thinking on-and-off, "I hope I'm doing this right. I hope I'm not the worst DPS in the group." "I hope I'm not screwing up too many maintenance buffs/debuffs".

I know there are some sort of parsing programs or something that people use, and I don't like the idea of them because I'm always thinking that one of these days I'll get yelled at for not being good enough.

I won't use 3rd party programs though because they are against the ToS. I play by the rules and I play fair so I have no idea who is doing what.

I understand where you're coming from, Moro. I started FFXIV as a pugilist, and back then, I thought I was doing pretty good (turns out, I wasn't because I ignored positionals). Then I switched to a DRK. Got into an argument here on the forums, learned the hard way through dungeons after the Vault that I was a trash tank, then got completely spanked by O3S, switched to AST. The anxiety I felt as a healer was maddening - not helped by choosing a more advanced healing class that had RNG buffs thrown in. Learning what all six cards did, which ones did what in Royal Road, how to efficiently use Earthly Star, what Sects to use...

It was all very overwhelming to me. I actually almost quit AST entirely. As you may know, I don't have premade groups to call upon (or, I didn't until recently). Most of my experience has been with randoms. But I've gotten comfortable in all roles - part of that is that I'm a competitive spirit. I also actively ask groups in endgame content what my parse was, so I can figure out what I'm doing wrong.

Case in point - I grinded DRG from 60-70 (sadly, I did jump potion that as I don't have that much patience) within a week, and jumped straight into Byakko Ex. My parse was 1.9K,

1.9K.

With only one death for me.

We ran it a few more times, and each time, I asked was my numbers were because, while I got extremely anxious about not having good numbers, every time we started a new fight, I asked for my numbers again at the end - and my DPS numbers went up. A week ago, I was barely clearing Byakko with a 2.8k.

This week, I cleared O6S with a 4.1k. (which is, sadly, not even hitting the 10th percentile right now, but that's another story)

Personally, I put more of a focus on learning when to do my burst, and when to hold back, where to hit my positionals, and of course, always keeping up heavy thrust (this is my biggest hurdle at the moment). My best advice to you is to not be afraid of the challenge. Tackle adversity head on. Personally, I don't move onto another class til I feel I have some kind of mastery of it. I'm most certainly not the most perfect player, and I'm definitely not a 75th percentile player by a long shot, or, to be honest, a 50th percentile player. But I just push myself to get better.

Side note: that run we did on Sigmascape normal was actually the first time I've been able to keep up heavy thrust, hit half of my positionals, and actually be a good DPS.

I had the same anxiety when I first started healing. You will start feeling more confident the more you play DPS. As soon as you can pull off your rotation by muscle memory, even when under stress, you'll no longer feel anxious at all. DPS is more about memorization compared to healing, where your playstyle is leaning more towards adaptability and reaction, as soon as something goes wrong.

I feel anxious no matter what class I am. I'm always afraid I'm not using the right skills or rotations. But then again, anxiety is just my perpetual state of being, so...

I understand the fear perfectly well. When Alexander hit the game for the first time I was playing as Machinist, I admit I was not doing very well but I came from Summoner, so I had to adapt and learn fast, sadly even with a clear I was scolded for my dps score and I only use the class for fun due to the lack of confidence. Now I changed the book of summoning again for another class, Paladin. I am gearing him to do Ex trials and maybe when I get better Savage (and no, I do not have a static).

I have the Ilevel, I can clear the stone sky sea dummy of Byako with 10-12 secs ahead of the end, I practice with roulette but I am feeling unable to take the step and start practicing the fight.

This is absolutely normal Heck even for people who play dps are always worried about that kind of stuff because every fight has some sort of dps check and even though people make the joke about pressing buttons for some classes there is alot more involved...

Dps for sure has a bit of an easier role in savage content due to more mechanics being pushed to healers and tanks but I've always felt dps have alot more to worry about when it comes to actually killing things...

The way I get over it as a SMN main is that I always practice my rotation and times to optimize in every fight...and most importantly ask better SMNs for tips even if I think I alreasy know something it still doesn't hurt to get advice

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

I still feel like I need to always be pushing that much harder.

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Welcome to the world of DPS. You will most likely always feel this way, at every patch and raid tier that comes out, and so on. But DPS is based on muscle memory more than anything else. Every DPS job is hard at first if you don't main it. No matter how good you think you are or not, you will struggle at first; But then as you learn your rotation(s), the fights, mecanics etc, you'll get better, and your anxiety will go away. Until the new content anyway :p

Unless you are a really hardcore raider/player, assume you will always suck the first time you kill something. Good news, it'll get better the more you kill it.

For what I understand, the only thing you lack is practice and experience. Since you seems to have "good" friends that don't judge you, take the opportunity to practice with them, don't be afraid to ask other RDM main you come across for advices, watch guides, go hit the dummy... as long as you go out there and practice, you'll be fine. If you do some pugs, keep in mind that they also more often than not suck more than you do. (I'm sure you know this coming from healer when you get a MT pug that doesn't know what a CD is ^^ it's basically the same thing, focus on you and what your doing and not on what those others people think of you).

Oh, I totally get this, and you are most definitely not alone.

I used to main BRD. I was confident and always top on the DPS threat list. However, when I reached endgame and SB came along, all my finely-tuned rotations changed and parsers started tracking my every move, so I can't enjoy it any more. Definitely DPS anxiety as I'm convinced I'll probably be the lowest on the list, all the time. It's annoying because these days I still enjoy BRD as a job in itself, but I'm nowhere near confident enough to use it in anything but casual content. I've tried looking up rotations etc. but I'm just not confident. So I know I'm basically sabotaging myself, but I can't convince myself to do it. That's why I took up healing, as it's far less of a rotational thing and it's way less stressful for me, which might sound weird, I know. But I don't think I'll be seriously taking up a DPS role for the foreseeable future unless there's a seismic shift in endgame content, which is highly unlikely.

I'd like to thank everyone for their understanding and support, it was definitely nice to get up this morning and read the replies here. I don't know how anyone can try to say this community isn't a good one, I left myself way open to criticism and instead you all responded with advice and well wishes.

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

The trade off is that you don't need to worry as much about the tank getting a buster to the face (healers and tanks managing their cooldowns) or raid-wide damage to heal through, all things other people would find stressful but you're probably used to it.

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This is fair. I don't mean to say that dps outright have more responsibility than healers do but I suppose at least I feel on RDM that I've got more on my shoulders than I do as a WHM.

I've thought about this a fair bit and I think part of it is actually related to handling mechanics. As a good healer (please no one start the debate, please) you interrupt your dpsing to heal or handle mechanics. As a dps you only halt your dpsing to handle mechanics. Sure, I Verraise as RDM but that isn't a 'break' from DPSing at all regularly and it really shouldn't be happening very frequently because people shouldn't be dying.

I think as a healer I was taking some extra time handling mechanics/moving that I really didn't need to take and chocking it up to "I'm still DPSing effectively enough," when I should have been minimizing my movement irrespective of the class I'm on for the sake of uptime.

So in a way I guess playing RDM has perhaps helped make me a better healer? Only fflogs will tell.

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

But I can understand why some people could feel this way, but really in most situations 1 bad DPS won't kill a party.

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I certainly agree, at least in the content my RDM is currently engaging in. My issue is that I might not be the only bad dps, at that point I'm contributing to a wipe if I don't put up at least enough damage to cover my portion if not help close the gap left by my co-deeps.

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Originally Posted by Selova

I think RDM is the perfect class yoy could start with so that you gain more experience and hopefully it won't be as intimidating to you later. All the best of luck to you.

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Aw, thanks! I do think RDM, as an 'easier' class and still a caster, is the right way to go... >.> I hope.

Totally unrelated but oh. em. gee. Your character creation is spot on! Such a pretty avatar, I just had to say something. Love the purple theme, it's working.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

I understand where you're coming from, Moro.

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I am legitimately surprised this is a thing you can relate to!

To be honest you're one of the people I was thinking of when I said I know people who seem to swap mains effortlessly, I remember you talking about heavy thrust being an issue for you on DRG but I didn't realize you had had so much trouble. You make it look easy!

It is comforting to know that someone I look up to has had these same sorts of struggles though, thank you for the inspiration! :D

Gonna start this out by saying, I was with Moro for their weekly Sigma normal runs this week, and they were amazing! Sure, there's always room for improvement, but I thought they did really well. They even tried to get the Raises (though I was really fast to press my Swiftcast + Raise, but the fact alone Moro is already willing to show support for a job a lot of people ignore the support aspect on is a big deal). And they Mana Shifted (!!!!) both me and our other healer (the lovely Miste).

That being said, the anxiety you feel is completely normal, Moro. I think it stems from a fear of the unknown and the unfamiliar, and it's something people experience with regards to everything. As a DPS main, I get nervous playing any job that isn't BRD. I get nervous playing BRD in content I'm new to, because I have a nasty habit of being a perfectionist, and mistakes hit me harder than they probably do the average person.

To give a similar example to yours, Moro, I recently leveled BLM to 70, and I'm actually finding myself wanting to learn the job...which I hadn't played in content since level 50. It was nerve-racking queuing into roulettes with it, because every time I got something from Heavensward or Stormblood, I would feel really nervous because I wasn't familiar with the job at those levels. But I want to learn, just like you want to learn RDM. So keep at it and don't give up! I firmly believe you have more than enough skill to be a successful RDM. :3

Like I said to you that evening you did great on RDM for it being your first time in level 70 stuff! You were really aware of most things a RDM should be aware of and doing good DPS! Always room for improvement for all of us, but definitely a perfect way to start out on a new 70 job!

I also agree about the anxiety. When I first decided to try some delta savage on RDM I got nervous as well since I never did any difficult content on RDM before. I think it is normal for some of us to deal with that when we try to play jobs or roles we don't know as much.

For me it is definitely a fear of the unfamiliar like Hyo said. I play healer so much that I am so familiar with it and used to it that it doesn't bother me much, but other roles I am so unfamiliar with that I always feel like I need more practice or I am not playing it right/making mistakes too much D:

It also makes me nervous when certain fights have different mechanics that the roles have to handle. Like healer mechanics I know them, but going into a fight on a new role like DPS and they have a different mechanic that healers don't have to do.... that throws me off and I need to really pay more attention.

PS. Hyo I hope I wasn't too much of a pain to heal with in Noct lol I really suck at shielding D:

Aw, thank you both! I'm certainly going to keep on trying with RDM, I've beated all the SSS dummies I've had the guts to try (so up to Shin EX) and that was before understanding what I should be doing with Swiftcast and Embolden.

Next time I will make a valiant effort at being slightly less insecure >.>

I know exactly what you mean about the different mechanics Miste - like in o6 when I had the sand marker chasing AoE and just heard "Moro run!"

Thank you both for healing me through my many failed mechs also, tunnel vision is a problem and at least I know that now.

I understand the role fear a whole lot. I'm scared to Tank or Heal fearing I may mess up and then everyone dies. Heck I only pick up one or two DPS classes to play at a time since I'm scared that I'll mess up on what rotation I'm supost to be doing. I'm glad I have friends that understand my fear.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

Aw, thank you both! I'm certainly going to keep on trying with RDM, I've beated all the SSS dummies I've had the guts to try (so up to Shin EX) and that was before understanding what I should be doing with Swiftcast and Embolden.

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Yeah SC is used to fix mana balance to avoid wasting mana and also to get the opener going quicker with Embolden and Manafication.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

Next time I will make a valiant effort at being slightly less insecure >.>

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You should! I think you are being too hard on yourself.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

I know exactly what you mean about the different mechanics Miste - like in o6 when I had the sand marker chasing AoE and just heard "Moro run!"

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Yeah I saw you out of the corner of my eye since you were just to my left. That mechanic never targets healers and I saw you dodge and stop so I figured I should toss out a voice warning for you if I noticed you stood still too long xD "Moro keep running!"

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

Thank you both for healing me through my many failed mechs also, tunnel vision is a problem and at least I know that now.

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You're welcome! but also its fine, everyone fails mechs sometimes. I mean I kinda randomly died one time? I still don't know what happened there lol my poor little lalafell just must have not seen a missile flying at her face? Then I got explodededed D:

Moro, as what most have said this feeling is normal, especially if you are still new to the class. The only two things I can add, are :

1) have fun playing, no matter what!
2) surround yourself with people who care for you and want to see you succeed (which from the sounds of it, you have done)

With the above points, your anxiety will slowly fade away as you gain confidence in yourself, just as your friends already have confidence in you.

Have a good day!

- Natti

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Originally Posted by Miste

Yeah I saw you out of the corner of my eye since you were just to my left. That mechanic never targets healers and I saw you dodge and stop so I figured I should toss out a voice warning for you if I noticed you stood still too long xD "Moro keep running!"

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That hit both of us and we were both doing the same thing since that was the first time either of us had DPSd it. :D The warning was super helpful.

Moro, I understand the feeling. I wind up changing roles a lot so we can do stuff but I always drop back to healing when I can because it's just more comfortable. I know what to do, when something goes wrong I know how to react, and if I mess up I know why and have an idea of how to fix it. On the other roles? Not so much, and that's scary. It does get better as you get more practice in another role and get familiar with the fights from a new perspective.

I think it's also why I favor jobs with healing. Like that o8 run this morning where I ended up spamming Clemency when both healers died until someone could get them back up. That was entirely familiar and kinda comforting. It makes it within my power to do something when things go wrong, rather than standing there DPSing (or tanking, as in that case) and hoping someone else covers it.

RDM is great for that for the same reason. I was spamming manashift last night to be helpful. Everyone was beating me to verraise, but that's less of an issue in the DF. Just having that stuff gives me back some of the "keep everyone alive" power that I have as a healer, and having access to it helps a lot.

You're a really good player, as your WHM logs consistently show. You'll do fine on RDM when you put the time into it. :)

If it helps, I went through the exact thing, I mained AST/SCH all the way up til SB and was super intimidated I couldn't optimise dps to pull my weight and was worried about not being able to do x amount of dps. but as far as role anxiety goes im sure you're doing fine, even if you're not quite pulling your weight, healers have much more carry potential than dps do and your party will more than likely be able to compensate if you have a run where you're a little off.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

I certainly agree, at least in the content my RDM is currently engaging in. My issue is that I might not be the only bad dps, at that point I'm contributing to a wipe if I don't put up at least enough damage to cover my portion if not help close the gap left by my co-deeps.

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That's fair. But putting so much pressure on yourself isn't! You shouldn't worry that there might be another DPS that's not doing great. It's their responsibility to get better, not your's!

It doesn't seem like you have anything to worry about, from what others have been saying about your DPS exploits in sigma.

Wait... was the run you, Miste, Tridus, AND HyoMin? So, like, forum all-star or what?

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

Wait... was the run you, Miste, Tridus, AND HyoMin? So, like, forum all-star or what?

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Yep! Bourne was also there. I don't know if I was all-star D: but yeah there were at least five of us ^^

I made an alt on Aether so I could play with them all sometimes xD although my main server does keep me occupied a lot ><

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Originally Posted by Miste

Yep! Bourne was also there. I don't know if I was all-star D: but yeah there were at least five of us ^^

I made an alt on Aether so I could play with them all sometimes xD although my main server does keep me occupied a lot ><

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Oh geez, Bourne too? It's like a forum party... party. Makes me realize the fun I'm missing out on. I just recently added Moro to Discord but haven't found any chance to play with them.

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

Oh geez, Bourne too? It's like a forum party... party. Makes me realize the fun I'm missing out on. I just recently added Moro to Discord but haven't found any chance to play with them.

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I'm usually the one getting the parties organized. Add me and we'll get you in to one. :) Tridus#2642

Moro and I play together quite a lot, and we like to get other folks in when we can. The other night it just worked out that a lot of people were available. :D

I mean I do feel a bit of uneasiness on other roles than tank in high end fight but being straight up anxious about it? Nah.

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Originally Posted by Miste

PS. Hyo I hope I wasn't too much of a pain to heal with in Noct lol I really suck at shielding D:

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Oh, you were fine!! ^^ I was the one hoping I wasn’t a burden because I’m not used to actually playing WHM / HoT healers. XD

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

Aw, thank you both! I'm certainly going to keep on trying with RDM, I've beated all the SSS dummies I've had the guts to try (so up to Shin EX) and that was before understanding what I should be doing with Swiftcast and Embolden.

Next time I will make a valiant effort at being slightly less insecure >.>

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Oh, you were perfectly fine, and you are very welcome. ^^ We all have insecurities; they fade with time and practice. ^^

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

Wait... was the run you, Miste, Tridus, AND HyoMin? So, like, forum all-star or what?

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I wouldn’t call us all-stars, but it was super fun to play with everyone. ^^ I’m generally so much of a loner in-game if I’m not playing with Bourne, so it was really fun to party up with so many people from here. ^^

Honestly having some of those insecurities can be helpful at the start, it can help push you to get better and better. While its partly because I don't do Savage raiding I don't have too much anxiety as DPS or Tanking these days (outside of the "how low can you go game" with some healers) but I also know that I for sure am not within those upper tiers of players because I don't strive to push myself up and beyond. Do my positionals and stuff right sure, but thats essentially just the foundation and all that.

HEALING though, I do feel anxiety there. Only reason I even have SCH leveled to 70 is cause of SMN and I'm not even gonna try to gear it unless I get WHM up since I feel most comfortable with that job.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Oh, you were fine!! ^^ I was the one hoping I wasn’t a burden because I’m not used to actually playing WHM / HoT healers. XD

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And I was hoping the same thing because I don't usually DPS either. :D Seems like everyone had a bit of it, but aside from feeling embarassed at eating the laser it was a great group makeup to try new things since people had useful tips and fun Discord chat instead of overly judgy randoms.

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I wouldn’t call us all-stars, but it was super fun to play with everyone. ^^ I’m generally so much of a loner in-game if I’m not playing with Bourne, so it was really fun to party up with so many people from here. ^^

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For sure. We'll try and do it again soon and hopefully can add VanilleFang. :D Got some PLD gear this week after finally getting the last shaft so I feel up to tanking as well if it's needed to fill the group.