Penalties for missing an invite an overkill

I've never heard of a game that penalizes players for missing a party invite until today. Some queues I've been waiting in lasted hours before I got the chime that a party was formed, but it's a real smack in the teeth when you've waited hours and need to go use the bathroom or get a drink and come back to find not only did you miss the invite but you can't even queue for another 30 mins! It's a bit too much SE, the game is punishing enough without you enforcing some rule against not staring at your screen every single second you're queued for a duty.

It counts as a withdraw from the duty and you have to do it 3x to get a penality. It was implemented to prevent people from trying to cherry pick into duties and jamming up the queue. That was really fun when Crystal Tower came out.
It's annoying when it happens unintentionally, but it was the behavior of the player base that made SE implement the system. We only have ourselves to blame lol.

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Originally Posted by geekgirl101

I've never heard of a game that penalizes players for missing a party invite until today. Some queues I've been waiting in lasted hours before I got the chime that a party was formed, but it's a real smack in the teeth when you've waited hours and need to go use the bathroom or get a drink and come back to find not only did you miss the invite but you can't even queue for another 30 mins! It's a bit too much SE, the game is punishing enough without you enforcing some rule against not staring at your screen every single second you're queued for a duty.

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As its already been said...you have to do it 3 times to get penalized.
But if you miss the window...well you only have yourself to blame.
You queue up...you accept responsibility for being ready to respond when time comes due.
You want to talk about annoying? Waiting for the queue to pop..it pops..I hit "ready" - and it aborts because someone didn't hit the button.....5 times in a row...that's annoying.

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Originally Posted by geekgirl101

I've never heard of a game that penalizes players for missing a party invite until today. Some queues I've been waiting in lasted hours before I got the chime that a party was formed, but it's a real smack in the teeth when you've waited hours and need to go use the bathroom or get a drink and come back to find not only did you miss the invite but you can't even queue for another 30 mins! It's a bit too much SE, the game is punishing enough without you enforcing some rule against not staring at your screen every single second you're queued for a duty.

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Sounds about right if we have to wait and people do it multiple times we don't want to keep waiting. Suggestions;

Mini fridge near by.

Communicate, you have to pee really fast, or extreme keep empty bottles near by or buy a pan. Adult diapers are also recommended.

OR hear me out, get a tank friend to help you.

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Originally Posted by geekgirl101

I've never heard of a game that penalizes players for missing a party invite until today. Some queues I've been waiting in lasted hours before I got the chime that a party was formed, but it's a real smack in the teeth when you've waited hours and need to go use the bathroom or get a drink and come back to find not only did you miss the invite but you can't even queue for another 30 mins! It's a bit too much SE, the game is punishing enough without you enforcing some rule against not staring at your screen every single second you're queued for a duty.

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if you've been in the queue for hours it should have been fine. don't the strikes reset after an hour or so? so if you've been in one solid queue. it should have only been your first strike.

sure there's been days where I've missed tons of pops and never took a penalty because of how spread out they've been. 45 mins queuing for expert. strike 1 cos it dinged when the door bell went.
another 40 minutes back of the queue for expert strike 2 dinner was burning....
another 40ish minutes and strike 3 for some reason.
sod it queue as tank... straight in...

always thought it was only if you missed like 3 in an hour or something you got nailed. (never really been an issue for me)

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Originally Posted by ManuelBravo

Sounds about right if we have to wait and people do it multiple times we don't want to keep waiting. Suggestions;

Mini fridge near by.

Communicate, you have to pee really fast, or extreme keep empty bottles near by or buy a pan. Adult diapers are also recommended.

OR hear me out, get a tank friend to help you.

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Really poster??? Your reply is absurd. Real life happens and people should not be penalized for being stuck in ridiculously long queues.

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Originally Posted by Besame

Really poster??? Your reply is absurd. Real life happens and people should not be penalized for being stuck in ridiculously long queues.

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I think you need to take a break from the game...even I can tell he was joking.

But seriously.... if you queue up for a duty....it IS YOUR BLOODY DAMN FAULT if you miss the window.
Blaming it on others or the system is just childish and evidence that you do not belong here what so ever.
Take some personal responsibility for yourself for crying out loud...its pathetic.

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Originally Posted by Besame

Really poster??? Your reply is absurd. Real life happens and people should not be penalized for being stuck in ridiculously long queues.

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I was being sarcastic, Yeah RL happens but I doubt Fires, earthquakes, or acts of God happen to one person constantly. Hence time management. Set a time where you know you won't be bothered by RL rather than let others drop everything their doing for your sake. To blame the system shows how childish your mindset is. I work, go to school, study, and have a life as well. At the very least I can do on my part is be considerate to my fellow teammates and make sure I can play with out interruptions rather than make them wait just because I was inconsiderate and did not plan ahead. First off if your queue wait times are absurd play a different role like tank or healer...otherwise ask your FC for help, a friend who is a tank for help, or build a group. We all wait for queue your not special. Do something else in the meantime. If not deal with it I craft or play a different game in the meantime.

As stated above, it happens after you've done it 3 times. Missing 1 because of a bathroom break or a drink won't penalize you.
If you're missing 3 timer windows in a day, you're probably too busy/distracted to play.

Anyway, here's a real suggestion that I use for fishing sounds: get a wireless headset.
That way you can go get that drink and hear the chime (though honestly why does it take more than 40 seconds to get a drink?).
You can go to the bathroom, hear the chime, and hurry yourself out in 40 seconds.

I remember Crystal Tower queues. 5 times is actually really being kind. I remember one night I ended up abandoning queue after 15 times of the queue popping and then aborting because someone declined or let the timer run out. Letting the timer run out was 11 minutes of wasted time just to get into the dungeon outside of the wait time.

I got locked out before only after one time and not three times missing the queue. Could been three times and not know it. Happened to me when all the ddos attacks was going on. Queue popped then hit accept then was kicked from server. Remember last time ran the crystal tower was in queue for 146 minutes. Things happen like how's it your fault if you get penalty from server kicking you when queue pops from ddos attack. They need to fix it.

Have you considered emptying your bladder before queuing?

ok I made a mistake, I thought that this happened for the first time and I was astonished that I was punished so harshly. I don't recall missing more than 1 invites before then so not sure why I got the penalty.

And Amelia, there's only so many hours one can keep an empty bladder for and I've known queues last more than 5 hours before today.

To be clear you get a 30m penalty from queuing if: you decline a duty pop or afk the timer 3 times in one day, or if you abandon a duty you have entered while the maximum amount of participants are still there.

Yes the afk thing was implemented some years ago to prevent people who abort queues a large number of times from killing the duty pops of other players. In alliance raids it was not uncommon for 20-30 "cannot enter because another party member isn't ready" messages in a row.

I think part of the reason was people fishing for in-prog queues to save time instead of doing runs from beginning, and cancelling every time they got a fresh instance without penalty.

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Originally Posted by geekgirl101

ok I made a mistake, I thought that this happened for the first time and I was astonished that I was punished so harshly. I don't recall missing more than 1 invites before then so not sure why I got the penalty.

And Amelia, there's only so many hours one can keep an empty bladder for and I've known queues last more than 5 hours before today.

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If it really did happen after only 1 time, that would be a bug and would need to be reported.

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You queue up...you accept responsibility for being ready to respond when time comes due.

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This. Even those who aren't enduring the long queues (healers/tanks) will likely have to sit through any number of failed ready-checks while the system weeds out the AFK'ers. Unfortunately, this doesn't stop people from waltzing into the dungeon afterwards and THEN deciding they'd like to: Cook dinner for the family, empty their bowels, go for a smoke, answer the door to accept a delivery, take a bath, run for president etc.

Anyone who signs up is putting their name on an (invisible) dotted line saying they'll be here when it pops. Your time comes and you renege on that? That's unfortunate, try again. Try to abuse it repeatedly in the hopes of bypassing certain dungeons/content? Then you can have a free -30minute pentalty while someone else who actually NEEDS things takes that spot.

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

Have you considered emptying your bladder before queuing?

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What a stupid question to ask. Do you even go to the bathroom like other mere mortals? When we need to pee or #2, it can be at random times, just like the queue times in this game. Not everyone has a perfect bladder, or a golden rectum of the gods.

Think before you speak please.

Solution 1) Never leave the computer for longer than 45 seconds.
Solution 2) Wait 30 minutes and try for a fourth time. Surely you won't need to leave again.
Solution 3) Don't play a dps class.

Stay ready during the que and take a quick 3-4 min break once u are zoned in. Let the others in the group know with something like "quick afk, 3-4 mins brb" and they are usually understanding. During that time u can use the restroom, eat, whatever, and this way you won't miss the invite.