Future crafting beast tribes

So, I've been thinking about crafting beast tribes moving forward and think I'd rather see moogles return moving forward. Give them a zone in SB content and let us help them rebuild it. I have my own preference, but it would involve spoilers.

What are your thoughts.... do we really need a new beast tribe, or more cute moogles?

Pretty sure we'll get the Namazu.

I hoped next beast tribe for crafting same Moogle's style.

Since I hated Ixali's dailies. They are horrible. Moogle more fun.

No sure if we get Namazu or werewolf

I just hope that SE may give "Scrips" as part of the reward similar to obtaining tomestones from DOW/DOM ones if you are using a 70 craft.

I'll be surprised if we don't get the Namazu for the DoH beast tribe.

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Originally Posted by Airget

I just hope that SE may give "Scrips" as part of the reward similar to obtaining tomestones from DOW/DOM ones if you are using a 70 craft.

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+1 this, I love this idea!

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Originally Posted by Heybunny

I'll be surprised if we don't get the Namazu for the DoH beast tribe.



+1 this, I love this idea!

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The Namazu arent a beast tribe though theyre just swindlers and squatters theyre also catfish.

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Originally Posted by KokoChibata

The Namazu arent a beast tribe though theyre just swindlers and squatters theyre also catfish.

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They very much are beastmen though? They also have all the lore justification between being merchants, and their ties to Yanxia and the reconstruction efforts. They also have a settlement for their quests. They're basically the only option at this point with the Ananta being DoW/DoM quest givers

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

They very much are beastmen though? They also have all the lore justification between being merchants, and their ties to Yanxia and the reconstruction efforts. They also have a settlement for their quests. They're basically the only option at this point with the Ananta being DoW/DoM quest givers

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They dont have a primal unless their primal is a giant coin theyre also squatting at an abandoned teahouse they even say as much if youve ever talked to them. Thats not much of something they built and rather they were like “Hello? No one here? This is ours now.”

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Originally Posted by KokoChibata

They dont have a primal unless their primal is a giant coin theyre also squatting at an abandoned teahouse they even say as much if youve ever talked to them. Thats not much of something they built and rather they were like “Hello? No one here? This is ours now.”

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Qiqirns and Mamool Jas don't seem to have Primals either, still beast-tribes proper. And Ishgardians had both Shiva and Thordan as Primals, are they a beast-tribe now?

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

Qiqirns and Mamool Jas don't seem to have Primals either, still beast-tribes proper. And Ishgardians had both Shiva and Thordan as Primals, are they a beast-tribe now?

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Thordan turned himself into a primal same for shiva they also didnt really temper anyone Mamools kind of have a Primal in the form of the Astral Candessence and the Qiqrin do have a primal what it is we just dont know yet however that could be because they dont talk about it according to koji fox from the vegas lore panel. Dont forget there is that one “savage” qiqirn with the rainbow coat in the SB areas different colored clothes/armor normally signify which beastbtribes become quest tribes and seeing as how we know that hien has already pretty much finished rebuilding and is ready for ppl to return home that kind of rules out the namazu for crafting [img/]https://i.redd.it/n8wq6scx4p5z.jpg[img]

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Originally Posted by KokoChibata

Thordan turned himself into a primal same for shiva they also didnt really temper anyone Mamools kind of have a Primal in the form of the Astral Candessence and the Qiqrin do have a primal what it is we just dont know yet however that could be because they dont talk about it according to koji fox from the vegas lore panel. Dont forget there is that one “savage” qiqirn with the rainbow coat in the SB areas different colored clothes/armor normally signify which beastbtribes become quest tribes and seeing as how we know that hien has already pretty much finished rebuilding and is ready for ppl to return home that kind of rules out the namazu for crafting

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ya i messed up the image thing https://i.redd.it/n8wq6scx4p5z.jpg

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Originally Posted by KokoChibata

The Namazu arent a beast tribe though theyre just swindlers and squatters theyre also catfish.

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Pretty sure any beastmen are capable of being swindlers and squatters while still giving us odd-jobs to do. Also, why does the fact that they are anthropomorphic catfish preclude them from being a beast tribe?

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Originally Posted by KokoChibata

They dont have a primal

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Originally Posted by KokoChibata

Qiqrin do have a primal what it is we just dont know yet

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Perhaps we don't know what theirs is yet?

Because these come from quests some people may have not done yet, I'll put these two in spoiler tags, but it's nothing serious. But it shows two things. One is that they are capable of crafting in some capacity. The other shows they are capable of trade.

https://i.imgur.com/cStNcAz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/am9Mqj5.jpg

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Originally Posted by KokoChibata

different colored clothes/armor normally signify which beastbtribes become quest tribes

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That's true. It's almost like they'd need to look physically different to the ones we fight in the wild... :rolleyes:

https://i.imgur.com/hoa5lpW.png

https://i.imgur.com/Z28Wazl.png

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Originally Posted by KokoChibata

Mamools kind of have a Primal in the form of the Astral Candessence

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Is that even a thing for the Mamool Ja in Eorzea? Last I saw the Astral Candescence I was fighting against multiple beastmen (sometimes Mamool Ja, but not always) who were trying to steal it from Al Zahbi during a Besieged in FFXI.

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Originally Posted by KokoChibata

hien has already pretty much finished rebuilding

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They really didn't though? There's a questline that starts in the Enclave that rules that out completely.

Yeah they're ready for the refugees in Mor Dhona to come back home, but that's so that they can help rebuilding using the skills they picked up in Mor Dhona. And that's only talking about the Enclave - which is still not finished. There's the rest of the frigging country to rebuild, too

More than enough room for the Namazu to help with that

That said, I'm curious. We're obviously getting a crafting beast tribe this xpac. Who do you think it'll be if not the Namazu?

Of course the Namazu have a primal; it's called the Lalafell race. (I kid)

For reals, though, I've been wondering since SB's reveal if we'd ever get more insight into the Qiqirn, and them being a beast tribe would be an interesting (and potentially welcome) opportunity to tell us all we need to know and then some.

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Originally Posted by KokoChibata

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Phoenix, Sophia and Shinryu (seriously, this was the main plot of 3.5 and 3.55), then.
Anyone can summon a Primal. Not just beastmen.

Pretty sure the Astral Candescence is a FFXI only thing and we know for a fact that Vana'diel is not on Hydaelyn.

I've got 20 on Moogles 2.0 the Namazu.

For something completely different.. I actually wouldn't mind seeing the "crafting beast tribe" quests being in the .....

*SPOILER WARNING*

Doman Enclave

I know it's not beastmen specifically.. However it would be nice from a lore perspective to have some part in that whole thing.
Doubt it will happen but would be interesting.

Deff going to be the little fish dudes

I'm going to throw in with the "it's the Namazu" crowd.
Possibilities right now are them or the wolf people.
The likely thread will be they've heard not only does the WoL fight.. they are an experienced crafter too.
"please make us stuff to sell!"
We've already got a half built area for them to "improve" as the questline goes on.

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Originally Posted by Altena

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If they set the unlock quest to be post the Yanxia MSQ, they can freely tie it to that.

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I know it's not beastmen specifically.

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The Ananta quests aren't exactly Ananta, per-se, but more show their interaction and integration with the rest of Gyr Abania. It'll work just as well for the Namazu.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

Possibilities right now are them or the wolf people. .

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I think it'd be such a cute idea if they put them both together, like the dragons & moogles, in a way they could benefit both their causes.

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Originally Posted by TristanBlane

I think it'd be such a cute idea if they put them both together, like the dragons & moogles, in a way they could benefit both their causes.

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I'd take that too, as long as I get a Namazu Bell neckpiece. (hey, I can hope)
I'm not really all that invested in the Wolf people though. We freed them from Garlean rule (conscription?) and never really got a sense of where they were from exactly. They don't particularly have a home map in the game and our interaction with them has been kind of spotty as far as backstory. I'd be super surprised if they suddenly got developed as our next beast tribe "domestication" attempt.

I hate the Namazu NPCs a ton, and I had hoped the crafter tribe would be the Ananta because they had a good case for being the crafters just so I wouldn't have to deal with any more Namazu, but since the Ananta are just another DoW/DoM hub, I can't really imagine it being any other race but those stupid catfish. It almost has to be them. I don't want it to be them, but I don't really see another potential tribe.

One would think with the Ananta's being jewelcrafters, they were going to be the crafting beast tribe. I guess its going to be the Namazu and the Lupin, will work with them. This is only if we are getting 3 beastribes like last time. I remember Yoshida saying that Stormblood might have 4.6 or 4.7 as final patch, this would mean that we could get 4 beasttribes this expansion.

I definitely think it will be the catfish, but there's that whole area in the Peaks with the Quqirn that makes me hope there will be 4 this patch.

Oh, I hope it'll be Qiqirn instead of those horrible ugly catfish things.

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Originally Posted by Infindox

I definitely think it will be the catfish, but there's that whole area in the Peaks with the Quqirn that makes me hope there will be 4 this patch.

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And there are friendly, white versions of them already known to us as well who would be used for it. I've always thought it would be the Qiqirn since seeing them at the start of SB.

there are those weird demonic qiqirn in the fringes and qiqirn seems like a good crafter-ish tribe

but probably catfish

It's Namazu time. Let's help some cool cat...fishes out.

If they do moogles again, I sure hope it's crafting, so I can completely ignore it. I hate moogles more than lalafel.
I would much rather consort with something more demonic and less Disney. I won't even touch omega, because I refuse to do quests for a damn duck muppet. Perhaps some day Sqenix will grow up.

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Originally Posted by Slevin_Impudicus

If they do moogles again, I sure hope it's crafting, so I can completely ignore it. I hate moogles more than lalafel.
I would much rather consort with something more demonic and less Disney. I won't even touch omega, because I refuse to do quests for a damn duck muppet. Perhaps some day Sqenix will grow up.

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Pretty edgy there. Your opinions of course, but not expecting cute out of FF? It's been a lot of cute for a lot of the iterations.

Why is it so hard ti believe the Namazu are a beast tribe. The moogles were never called as such, but they still are a beast tribe. The only race we've seen that may or may not be one are the wolves.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Why is it so hard ti believe the Namazu are a beast tribe. The moogles were never called as such, but they still are a beast tribe. The only race we've seen that may or may not be one are the wolves.

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I think we have a couple of terms mixed up here. The wolves seem to not be a 'tribe', but I think few can argue they're not beastmen - they're frigging werewolves. Unlike most of the other tribes we've seen, they just integrated a lot better into Doman culture so they don't need to maintain their own community. That is not to say they're the only ones, mind, the Qiqirn are well integrated into Eorzea, and you see rather a lot of goblins running around Limsa.

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

I think we have a couple of terms mixed up here. The wolves seem to not be a 'tribe', but I think few can argue they're not beastmen - they're frigging werewolves. Unlike most of the other tribes we've seen, they just integrated a lot better into Doman culture so they don't need to maintain their own community. That is not to say they're the only ones, mind, the Qiqirn are well integrated into Eorzea, and you see rather a lot of goblins running around Limsa.

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You realize you just repeated what I said just in greater detail.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Why is it so hard ti believe the Namazu are a beast tribe. The moogles were never called as such, but they still are a beast tribe. The only race we've seen that may or may not be one are the wolves.

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If the Triad card for the wolves is anything to go by, then they're definitely a beast tribe.