8 man dungeons and MSQ

Hi all,

So I got to within 3 quests of the msq for the realm reborn when I ran into an 8 man dungeon quest. That is you cannot proceed until the dungeon is complete. So I signed up for the duty and then spent the next 8 hours waiting for it to pop. In the end it didn't.

I then figured that if I was to continue I would need to buy the Heavensward upgrade, which completes all quests. I felt like this was a serious kick in my guts and did not feel good about it for days.

So now I'm maybe 20 or 30 quests into Heavensward and have run into another 8 man dungeon (Thok ast Thok (Hard)). Another 8 hours later and there are no takers. Nobody is doing them. Not to mention the high possibility of failure even if 8 people manage to come together to do the dungeon (according to youtube).

This seems to me like a serious flaw in the game design. How can I resolve this and progress?

Otherwise I gotta bail on this game.

Wait, did you just buy the HW upgrade recently? If you bought Stormblood, you would get the Heavensward content too.

That being said, I thought you were referring to Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium for a moment.

Judging by your world, you're in a Japanese data center. I believe you should activate all languages in the duty finder settings. Trials without level item requirements on average shouldn't take more than 30 minutes, even for a dps.

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Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu

Wait, did you just buy the HW upgrade recently? If you bought Stormblood, you would get the Heavensward content too.

That being said, I thought you were referring to Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium for a moment.

Judging by your world, you're in a Japanese data center. I believe you should activate all languages in the duty finder settings. Trials without level item requirements on average shouldn't take more than 30 minutes, even for a dps.

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1. They were referring to the HW boost potion, to skip past the rest of ARR.
2. They were referring to the final ARR dungeons, and mistakenly assumed Thok was also a dungeon.

But yeah. Still had options other than buying the jump potion. Party Finder would've worked just as well. And Thok is not a dungeon, it's only a trial, single boss fight, like all the other primals. Still, sounds likely that the issue is either not playing during same hours as most others on the data center, or language settings too restrictive preventing the game from finding enough players to match.

The original complaint confuses me. If you're willing to go unsynced to get it done Thok ast Thok (Hard) and all of those trials are constantly in PF - often for WT or others just trying to get it done - at least on my data center.

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Originally Posted by NosamKin

The original complaint confuses me. If you're willing to go unsynced to get it done Thok ast Thok (Hard) and all of those trials are constantly in PF - often for WT or others just trying to get it done - at least on my data center.

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The bolded part isn't correct. It's the extreme versions that are in PF for WT. HM is only in there when someone is working on their Anima relics.

Never be afraid to put up a PF if your queue is too long. People will usually help you out.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

The bolded part isn't correct. It's the extreme versions that are in PF for WT. HM is only in there when someone is working on their Anima relics.

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In all fairness - PF is faster for a great many things when someone needs something specific....where duty finder just isn't fast enough. Course that depends on what role - and in the above example? usually DPS'ers - if you where a tank or a healer...would be a 5 min average wait generally.

Thok hard mode is on the trials roulette though. Playing close to prime time(usually a bit later) as a DPS i still often get close to insta-ques for the trials roulette. So yeah, this issue has to be with language settings(possibly complimented by off hours status). Arcarius, did you intentionally create a character on a Japanese data center rather a North American or European one? If yes, make sure you have japanese selected as a language for matching purposes(many/most people wont care if you cant actually communicate). Going forward(from where you are) all dungeons are 4 man content, and all trials are for 8.

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Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan

In all fairness - PF is faster for a great many things when someone needs something specific....where duty finder just isn't fast enough. Course that depends on what role - and in the above example? usually DPS'ers - if you where a tank or a healer...would be a 5 min average wait generally.

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Oh, I'm not arguing that, the part I was saying is wrong pertains mostly to the "often for WT" part. No HM trial(unless you count Ultima and Odin as HM and not EX/Savage) is ever in the WT.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

Oh, I'm not arguing that, the part I was saying is wrong pertains mostly to the "often for WT" part. No HM trial(unless you count Ultima and Odin as HM and not EX/Savage) is ever in the WT.

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Goes without saying. :)

I'm pretty sure the language requirement is what's holding you back. I know that when I learned about it and turned on all languages my quest became MUCH faster;

Thanks for your response all. The key takeaway form this is the use of the party finder. I will try this. Seriously, I waited hours using the duty finder and it didn't pop so there I'm thinking this totally sucks balls. How can you have a 8 man dungeon tied to the MSQ? Made me so angry that i'd spent all my time doing the MSQ only to be F$%^ed by the dumbass game mechanic. Aomeone asked the question about what upgrade I bought. It was to heavensward, just so I could get through the last 3 quests of ARR. I feel I should have gone all the way to Stormblood, but I didn't wanna miss out on too much.

I guess I'll try party finder, so thanks for that tip. Plus, I will look into the language settings also. They shouldn't have made it this mystifying to understand.

Thanks again all.

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Originally Posted by Arcarius

Thanks for your response all. The key takeaway form this is the use of the party finder. I will try this. Seriously, I waited hours using the duty finder and it didn't pop so there I'm thinking this totally sucks balls. How can you have a 8 man dungeon tied to the MSQ? Made me so angry that i'd spent all my time doing the MSQ only to be F$%^ed by the dumbass game mechanic. Aomeone asked the question about what upgrade I bought. It was to heavensward, just so I could get through the last 3 quests of ARR. I feel I should have gone all the way to Stormblood, but I didn't wanna miss out on too much.

I guess I'll try party finder, so thanks for that tip. Plus, I will look into the language settings also. They shouldn't have made it this mystifying to understand.

Thanks again all.

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The language setting used to be done in a much easier way in which they already appear in the upper right hand corner upon opening the duty finder tab. You could click on one of the four language letters to toggle on/off language preferences.

However, said settings became somewhat user-unfriendly when they were grouped under the small gray cogwheel circle on the upper left hand corner in the Duty Finder tab. As a result, most first timers and/or people who weren't around during the earlier patches would miss this feature quite often.