Things That Should Have Been Fixed 1.20b

-Pug MP decreasing in passive mode while on chocobo back, or while a debuff is active on you

Another thing I noticed while crafting
- Hasty Hand is not in the last abilty slot anymore regardless of where you put it on the ability bar
(New since 1.20b)

Other than that, I love the Goobue and music. Love the game, love most fixes

Keep it up, and do more testing!

Feel free to add. I whipped this up quickly obviously

For the first one, did you happen to have fists of flame/fists of earth active? They still take MP even if you're in passive. Also Damage over time debuffs prevent your HP/MP from recovering even while passive so your fists moves still drain MP in that case.

If not then report it in the bug report section!

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Originally Posted by ZirgonSoul

Another thing I noticed while crafting
- Hasty Hand is not in the last abilty slot anymore regardless of where you put it on the ability bar
(New since 1.20b)

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Originally Posted by Patch Notes

An issue wherein Hasty Hand could not be used under certain conditions in synthesis.

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It's unclear if you're aware of this, so... before 1.20b, if you had 5 crafting ablilities show up at the beginning of a synth and Hasty Hand was one of the last abilities you had set, Hasty Hand would get kicked out because there's a limit to the number of abilities that can show up in that window. In order to remedy this, they've now made it so Hasty Hand is the first in the list so it always shows up. I'm sure if we were to ask them why they chose to go that route instead of just adding more ability slots, the answer would probably somewhere along the lines of "It was easier" and/or "Server limitations".

I do agree that it sucks more now, though. I preferred just pushing up once instead of pushing down four times to get to Hasty Hand. You can remedy this by removing all your crafting abilities except Hasty Hand if you are so inclined.

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Even if that were true Estellios, Mp would decrease standing still fists on. It doesn't.

But on chocobo back instantaniously mp start decreasing, also with debuff on you. There is a clear fix needed here I think. Or maybe it's possible I am viewing something wrong o.o

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Originally Posted by Raldo

I do agree that it sucks more now, though. I preferred just pushing up once instead of pushing down four times to get to Hasty Hand. You can remedy this by removing all your crafting abilities except Hasty Hand if you are so inclined.

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Yeah I've been doing that now >.>

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Originally Posted by ZirgonSoul

Even if that were true Estellios, Mp would decrease standing still with fists on. It doesn't.

But on chocobo back instantaniously mp start decreasing, also with debuff on you. There is a clear fix needed here

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It's not decreasing because your passing MP regen surpasses the MP decrease from the fists ability. Debuffs (and apparently mounts) prevent you from passively regening hp/mp, so you lose mp.

Actually your MP DOES tick down with fists on while standing in passive, it's just that after the first 3 or so ticks your natural recovery overpowers the MP drain and you recover MP although not as fast as when you take off fists. When you're on chocobo you probably don't count as being in passive mode so your MP drains at normal speed.

I see what you guys are saying!

Though it seems a bit odd how fast it goes down in certain instances, could be dropping by 100's without doing a thing

Yea I just make it a point to only have it on whenever i'm actually fighting =P Just something to adjust to!

It's really annoying to find that their "fix" was to put Hasty Hand first in the list. That's terribly inconvenient.

It looks to be an easy fix, so I can call this one of three things, the first being laziness, the second being an insult to Yoshida's team's problem solving capabilities, and the third being I don't know what the heck I'm talking about. I won't rule the last one out, but I sincerely feel one of the first two strikes true, because I can think of two possible ways the slots get filled and a method to get Hasty Hand where it should be.