Just seemed a little short to me for a content patch. I know there is a lot of other things in the patch but I was just expecting it to go further with the story ;;
I expected way more MSQ
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01-31-2018, 11:25 PMstardrifterI expected way more MSQ
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01-31-2018, 11:30 PMBongaboi
I am iLvl-locked from doing Skalla (read: 4.1) and getting those 120-ish 4.0 quests done was a [casual] grind. I think this is just about right.
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01-31-2018, 11:41 PMAndevom
Really? I felt this was longer than most.
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01-31-2018, 11:57 PMbass9020
Unless they can add more story quests that arent filler I dont see them adding more to 4.x patches. ARR patches left a lot of people salty because of the the filler and fetch quests it had.
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02-01-2018, 12:09 AMInuk9
I felt it took too long to develop some points and left way too many cliffhangers.
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02-01-2018, 12:11 AMManuelBravo
Seems about right for a content patch....we are just impatient and love the story so it seems short. Trust em I feel you -.-/
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02-01-2018, 12:23 AMserafAs comparison ARR had about double the amount of total Quests that Heavensward had by the time both were completed.Quote:
Originally Posted by bass9020
ARR: 285 MSQ's
HW: 138 MSQ's
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02-01-2018, 12:26 AMAyer2015
I felt like we had lots of content this patch.
That said, I'm pissed how this patch ended. Can no one stay dead in this game. -
02-01-2018, 12:29 AMRinuko
Standard for a content patch. Only time we get a lot of it is during a expansion
Nice spoiler :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayer2015
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02-01-2018, 12:37 AMMuseTraveller
I felt there was more MSQ than previous patch. Maybe the flow just felt better? I don't know. I was very happy with the story compared to last patch.
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02-01-2018, 03:15 AMFrizze
Looking back over the last half dozen content patches, the MSQ additions range from 5 quests to 11 quests - this patch was 8. So its about average for a HW/SB patch.
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02-01-2018, 03:17 AMSilverObi
Well they did make a conscious effort to trim down the amount of quests after the sea of complaints in ARR post-storyline. This is just them continuing the trend with hopefully much more entertaining quests to compensate for the lower amount
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02-01-2018, 03:18 AMAirget
There is actually a lot to the story in terms of forward progression if you take the sidequest into account.
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02-01-2018, 03:32 AMRasikkoMeh, they do it around here all the time, but still, considering the trend up to this point, he's right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rinuko
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02-01-2018, 03:36 AMErryKThere's only four characters who died and didn't stay dead... stop blowing it up more than it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayer2015
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02-01-2018, 03:37 AMbasketofsealsMan, even the post 2.0 story had more quests than the entirety of 3.0-3.55.Quote:
Originally Posted by seraf
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02-01-2018, 03:42 AMAyer2015Everyone who dies should stay dead. 2.5 felt awful once 3.0 hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by ErryK
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02-01-2018, 04:19 AMErryKDid it? Didn't feel that way to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayer2015
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02-01-2018, 04:41 AMTridusIn a thread that's literally about the new MSQ, you should probably expect people to be talking about the MSQ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rinuko
I mean, he's also right. If you pull this comic book "oh look, not dead!" thing enough times, death itself ceases to carry any emotional weight in the story. They go to this well an awful lot. -
02-01-2018, 04:49 AMDualbladeLiterally everyone knew that none of the Scions were going to die that patch. The only character there that does die I do agree somewhat with you...and one of the people everyone assumed would live no matter what actually DID die (essentially).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayer2015
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02-01-2018, 04:56 AMMelichoirEveryone is dead. Eorzea is an illusion created by the Omega Weapon. Youre just a holographic puppet for the omega weapon to amuse itself with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayer2015
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02-01-2018, 05:19 AMserafActually we all died in 1.x during the Calamity and are stuck in purgatory dreaming after Bahamut destroyed the Planet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melichoir
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02-01-2018, 05:49 AMAyer2015That would be an interesting final endingQuote:
Originally Posted by seraf
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02-01-2018, 05:54 AMAyer2015But just think how much more impact it would have had if they had died. Tragedy makes games more interesting, than the standard everything will always turn out good. I could say so much more, but I don't want to get into too many plot details.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dualblade
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02-01-2018, 05:54 AMGranyalaYeah I'm very curious how they will explain that one. I mean, considering how and where the dude died.Quote:
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02-01-2018, 06:14 AMTheCountYeah that's not who you think it isQuote:
Originally Posted by Ayer2015
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02-01-2018, 06:33 AMRiyahArp
Was it me though, or wasn't there supposed to be a new lala in the msq too? I thought the 4.2 preview showed a lala with silver hair and glasses talking to Krile?
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02-01-2018, 06:49 AMKalocin
I think it was just the separating of content that made it feel shorter than normal. Usually having to do a dungeon mid MSQ makes it feel longer because well, you had to go and do that dungeon. In terms of story progression, not a lot really happened as it was more character focused than the narrative. It would have been nice to have some more idea of "what's next" though as it feels like we got an extended cliffhanger from the end of 4.0.
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02-01-2018, 07:16 AMDualblade99% sure that has to do with Eureka, and thus not till 4.25. Stay tuned basically.Quote:
Originally Posted by RiyahArp
Not really? The way they would have died in 2.55 was just...REALLY stupid. Even more since literally everyone knew the Scions were being set-up for something they didn't do. If the set-up to it was better sure, but I could say that about anything really.Quote:
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Also the character that started this thread being still alive is certainly NOT showing everything turning out for the better. Quite the opposite honestly. -
02-01-2018, 07:16 AMAmetrineI believe that's the yet further delayed Eureka stuff we have to hold for another month on.Quote:
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02-01-2018, 10:40 AMRhindasI agree with this. Go back and rewatch the cliffhanger scene from the end of 4.1. At least I think it was 4.1, now I forget. With a certain black cloaked individual. I have a feeling we have some shenanigans going on here.Quote:
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02-02-2018, 01:03 AMWilanI thought this was obviously what happened actually. I've been talking with some FC mates after that post credits scene (it was 4.0 btw, and it was a white cloaked individual) and we all came to the same conclusion. Spoilers, obviously. Elidibus took off his mask and the emperor recognized his (transformed) face and understood what his plan was. There's not many people he could have taken the appearance of that both us and the emperor would have recognized that had recently disappeared, and only one whose reappearance could have a meaningful impact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhindas
After all, you don't just recover from cutting your own throat open. Giving people living proof that the fantastic victory boasted by the resistance was actually a lie, on the other hand, is going to have catastrophic effects on morale. People of Garlemald will feel reinvigorated and probably even members of the resistance who didn't witness the fight go down will start to wonder if what they conquered with many sacrifices wasn't a false victory after all.