Sigmascape- Kudos for this one

I know everyone is having a fit about msq roulette and the glamour dresser, but really, this is the best few bosses I have seen in a long while. They are visually interesting, and the tactics are far better than the typical non-stop AOE dancing (which is a welcome change for those suffering higher pings). Not going to go into details due to spoilers, but if you've not done so yet, do yourself a favour and hop in :)

I fully agree. This was a delight from start to finish. The third boss took a step back as far as aesthetics go imo, but I guess they were limited by the source material and all. Certainly raised my motivation to revisit FFVI at any rate

Sigma 3.0 is the only one I don't really like. It's kind of boring imo.

Sigma 4.0 did not disappoint though.

Byakko and Sigma 3 are Literally Bullet Hells now. Glad they cleared that up for us.



Please don't quote me this time. I'm literally joking with you. Sigma was fun.

I am not a fan of the second boss seems way too gimmicky, but the rest were all really fun.

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I'm sorry, but Sigmascape is a damn joke. Fights are boring as hell, so dull and bland. Savage was cleared within 17 hours also, this is just ridiculous.

Edit: Ok, O5 and O8 aren't too bad, can be somewhat enjoyable, but O6 and O7 may just as well by Dummies.

I don't know why people care how fast raiders who raid 24/7 with no life clear things.

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Originally Posted by Settiesama

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You're salty because world firsters downed O8S and you haven't or what?

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Originally Posted by Settiesama

I'm sorry, but Sigmascape is a damn joke. Fights are boring as hell, so dull and bland. Savage was cleared within 17 hours also, this is just ridiculous.

Edit: Ok, O5 and O8 aren't too bad, can be somewhat enjoyable, but O6 and O7 may just as well by Dummies.

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This thread is for appreciating the experience, not about if savage is difficult enough or not.

I usually don't do the savages very seriously, but having enjoyed the normal bosses I'll be tossing my hat into the ring for savage this time as well. As far as battle design goes, these are a welcome breath of fresh air (if you want boring, AOEs taking up the entire area making everyone squish into the same tiny spot, or run around like morons for ages dodging one after the other - now THAT's a yawn)

I just want all the music now, especially after enjoying all the fights. Let me blare Doomtrain's theme and initiate Orchestrion wars to keep it play in my FC. :>

I have the same complaint for Sigma as I did for Delta which is it feels like they just took four random bosses, slapped them together, and called it a raid. Really not seeing the theme, if there is one.

if you don't see a theme I think you might need to think a bit harder (not going to say what it is for spoilers sake). Even if there was no theme - they are still enjoyable battles.

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

I have the same complaint for Sigma as I did for Delta which is it feels like they just took four random bosses, slapped them together, and called it a raid. Really not seeing the theme, if there is one.

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Delta theme was FFV and to be specific the interdimensional rift part of that game since they took bosses that you fought there

Sigma theme is FFVI and they used memorable bosses from the game some of which are actually a meme (cough phanrom train)

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Was pleasantly surprised. They are actually pretty fun.

My only gripe is that O5/O7 seem kind of randomised at times? It throw me off a little.

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Originally Posted by Enla

I just want all the music now, especially after enjoying all the fights. Let me blare Doomtrain's theme and initiate Orchestrion wars to keep it play in my FC. :>

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Doomtrain's theme is the FFVI boss music. Would definitely love to see that (and Dancing Mad, Kefka's Theme) available for the Orchestrion.

My only gripe is that we couldn't suplex the Phantom Train.

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Originally Posted by Ryaz

Doomtrain's theme is the FFVI boss music. Would definitely love to see that (and Dancing Mad, Kefka's Theme) available for the Orchestrion.

My only gripe is that we couldn't suplex the Phantom Train.

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There was a small track before the battle that had it's theme which is what I want. :P I do want Dancing Mad though, painfully so. >.>

Its NOT Doomtrain(Doomtrain is FF8 and a summon) in O5, it is the original Phantom Train from FF6 , same background as in FF6, same music (music is the original battle music from FF6), its the same when u fight ultros and Typhoon

Has anyone checked to see if MNK LB does anything different in that fight? If it changed to suplex, that would be awesome.

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Originally Posted by Devilbringer

Its NOT Doomtrain(Doomtrain is FF8 and a summon) in O5, it is the original Phantom Train from FF6 , same background as in FF6, same music (music is the original battle music from FF6), its the same when u fight ultros and Typhoon

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Since they're pretty much the same thing and one was inspired by the other I'm still going to call it that. Just like I've been doing for near on a decade since playing both those games. :) But thank you regardless.

I loved them only thing i would have changed is the music... why use the same tune especially on the last fight
Good job SE on this raid, very well done

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Originally Posted by Maero

I loved them only thing i would have changed is the music... why use the same tune especially on the last fight
Good job SE on this raid, very well done

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The music in 4.0 actually changes to Dancing Mad once you get kefka down to 80-70% health.

Over all it was really well made. Can't wait to start off on savage.

Doom Train; The good; Doom train was a classic, very well made, love the music, and after the fight the cs was really a great touch down memory lane. The bad;Can't suplex it :P The ugly; No music rolls ; ; / wish they had Doom Train as a minion


Painting Demon; (forgot name >.<) The good ; I love the how this worked as a puzzle and had a good laugh on how people kept messing up after telling them what to do. The bad; More on players side, not sure if doing it on purpose however even after hints did not understand simple mechanics. The Ugly; Would have been nice to be able to get the main paining for our FC. Now I really want it.

The guardian;The good; Very creative wish it would of been one of the espers like Tritoch or Ultima Weapon from the floating island. The Bad; could of used more attack variations. The ugly The adds dies pretty fast would of been a nice challenge if they lasted longer.

Kefka; The good; THANK YOU OUR PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, love the the statue phase went lots of fun and really brought back memories. The bad; Would of been nice to have had a voice CS, maybe with Kefka's voice from Dissidia NT. The Ugly No music roll, No God form ; ;, really wanted to fallen one again :P maybe for savage? Could we get a Kefka laugh emote pls?

Overall; Was not disappointed, for once I'm looking forward to savage. Very well done ^^...Music rolls pls :P

As for the music. Decisive battle from FFVI is way better than FFV's from deltascape. Specially the piano part.

With that said, I still prefer the original FFXIV theme from alexander (Locus, Entropy and Brute justice)

I actually really enjoyed myself in Sigmascape. I think that experienced was more or less enhanced with the fact that in all my parties, most of us were trying to figure out mechanics. Made for a very fun experience, and I can't wait to get geared enough to dip my toes in savage.

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Originally Posted by Remedi

Delta theme was FFV and to be specific the interdimensional rift part of that game since they took bosses that you fought there

Sigma theme is FFVI and they used memorable bosses from the game some of which are actually a meme (cough phanrom train)

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Oh I knew it was themed after some old FF game like the last one. Problem is for those of us who've never played those old games, it just ends up feeling like a convoluted mess.

I have to say - thank you, SE, for Sigmascape. From the moment I rolled into Phantom Train and heard the train's music (which needs to be an Orchestrion roll, it sets the perfect atmosphere) and then rolled into The Decisive Battle, I was already in nostalgic delight. Phantom Train used several of its signature moves including Acid Rain and Phantom Whistle (but a shame no Wheels were thrown at us!) and managed to make use of the myriad of ghosts it transports. Even the interiors of the cars were wonderfully designed, letting me take a step back into my favorite FF game throughout the series. And then jumping on back and running for the chimney? I couldn't help but shout that the switch to stop him was behind the chimney, haha.

Chadarnook was no less, seeing the goddess step out from her painting before the real fight, though personally I would have loved if they had stuck to the canon swap between Goddess and Chadarnook with the Goddess throwing out charm/confusion abilities, lowering his maximum HP to account for the times of down DPS (or using those phases as DPS checks for adds or similar). Guardian was certainly Guardian, making use of all of the programs that he did in the original game, and throwing in the Gubal boss was a pleasant surprise.

And of course... Kefka. I love Cid and Nero's description of him right from the very start, as they hit the nail on the head perfectly. Unpredictable, insane, a masterful mage and one who claimed rulership of a ruined world as its god. Stepping in to get his old FF6 laugh was just the icing on the cake, and when we fade to Dancing Mad and the statue you fight in the first game? Bliss. Now I absolutely need to dip my toes into the Savage scene this time around to get to O8S and get to what I hope is God of Magic Kefka at the end of the first phase, which hopefully occurs when the last bit of the statue is finished.

So yeah... prolly my favorite raid now, by a long shot.

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Originally Posted by ManuelBravo

Would have been nice to be able to get the main paining for our FC. Now I really want it.

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SAME I really wan the painting

Haven't done O8N yet but did the other fights quickly last night. They were interesting fights mechanic wise but they seemed easier than Delta. I did all three with DF groups and only had one wipe on O7 , because too many were dead when adds spawned. Maybe it was because we were all over geared but we didn't follow most of the mechanics (didn't understand them) and we were still able to recover easily with multiple deaths.

In O5 we had most the party dead ( only me and tank alive) and we were still able to rezz the whole party and beat it without using healer lb. I like the fights but I feel like normal will get boring pretty quickly. I think if you're 340 you're way too strong for these fights. Rabanastre is still more challenging if you don't know the mechanics.

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Originally Posted by Settiesama

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I'm sorry, but Sigmascape is a damn joke. Fights are boring as hell, so dull and bland. Savage was cleared within 17 hours also, this is just ridiculous.

Edit: Ok, O5 and O8 aren't too bad, can be somewhat enjoyable, but O6 and O7 may just as well by Dummies.

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well, you will have a new Ulitmate encounter in 4.3....

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Originally Posted by Settiesama

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I'm sorry, but Sigmascape is a damn joke. Fights are boring as hell, so dull and bland. Savage was cleared within 17 hours also, this is just ridiculous.

Edit: Ok, O5 and O8 aren't too bad, can be somewhat enjoyable, but O6 and O7 may just as well by Dummies.

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That is the result of people complaining content it's too hard. The fights had a lot of potential and was really really disappointment in how easy they were. Looking forward to savage ^^ at least it will be more enjoyable. I agree with you content was easy specially when you have competent players. However you would be surprised how many people bitch and complain just about anything now a days that require actual common sense.

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Originally Posted by Sylvina

The music in 4.0 actually changes to Dancing Mad once you get kefka down to 80-70% health.

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With so much going on i guess i never noticed, haha