Lodestone: Additional Plots and Purchasing Guide

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/


TL;DR:

• If you own multiple properties, nothing will happen to you
• If you already own any number of properties, personal or FC, you can relocate them to wherever you want starting Feb 6th
• If you do not own property, you can buy a plot for your FC starting Feb 6th
• If you have an alt character on the same world, that is in an FC that has a house, you personally cannot buy property for any other FC (you can relocate for them)
• You can not buy a plot for personal housing until some undisclosed date in the future

This point worries me:

・None of your other characters on the same World on that service account are in a free company that owns land.

My FC plans to have me relocate our FC house since I had the best luck in the Shirogane Savage 4.1, but I have an alt in the same FC. Do I need to remove my alt from the FC in order to relocate?? I don't want to mess this up. :/

"* Players possessing housing above this limit prior to patch 4.2 will not be affected by this change.
* It is possible to relocate estate halls to empty plots."

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Originally Posted by Nerfworthy

My FC plans to have me relocate our FC house since I had the best luck in the Shirogane Savage 4.1, but I have an alt in the same FC. Do I need to remove my alt from the FC in order to relocate?? I don't want to mess this up. :/

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No, you're fine. Relocating doesn't follow the same rules as purchasing.

You would also be able to buy the house with that second character in the same FC (since the FC wouldn't own a house until after your purchase).

The presentation of the housing guide is a confusing mess... I don't think the system is as complicated as it makes it out to be.

It's very simple and not something that needs infographics, yeah. Added a TL;DR version to the original post for good measure.

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Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/


TL;DR:

• If you own multiple properties, nothing will happen to you
• If you already own any number of properties, personal or FC, you can relocate them to wherever you want starting Feb 6th
• If you do not own property, you can buy a plot for your FC starting Feb 6th
• If you have an alt character on the same world, that is in an FC that has a house, you personally cannot buy property for any other FC (you can relocate for them)
• You can not buy a plot for personal housing until some undisclosed date in the future

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so i should be fine relocating my FC house if i have my alts in the same FC?

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Originally Posted by Tussin

so i should be fine relocating my FC house if i have my alts in the same FC?

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That is correct.

If you own two personal plots on the same server, but are in an FC with no housing (and no alts are either), will you still be able to purchase land for an FC?

It's really unclear as to what exact rules apply to people who already have multiple plots.

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Originally Posted by fantasticm

If you own two personal plots on the same server, but are in an FC with no housing (and no alts are either), will you still be able to purchase land for an FC?

It's really unclear as to what exact rules apply to people who already have multiple plots.

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Unless one of the GMs can sneak a question into the devs to reply in time, we likely won't know for sure until the houses open up. With the info we have it's likely you'll be able to purchase the land for an fc still as long as you meet the fc portion of the requirements (no characters on that world already in an fc with a house and at least 4 characters in the fc).

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

With the info we have it's likely you'll be able to purchase the land for an fc still as long as you meet the fc portion of the requirements (no characters on that world already in an fc with a house and at least 4 characters in the fc).

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I would assume so as well, since the way it's worded it seems less like a 'two house limit' and more of a distinction between personal and FC housing. But I don't really want to gamble on that being the case either, since it IS Square Enix... Really hope this gets clarified before Tuesday.

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Originally Posted by fantasticm

I would assume so as well, since the way it's worded it seems less like a 'two house limit' and more of a distinction between personal and FC housing. But I don't really want to gamble on that being the case either, since it IS Square Enix... Really hope this gets clarified before Tuesday.

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If not, perhaps there's someone you can trust in the fc that meets the requirements whom could purchase the plot?

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

If not, perhaps there's someone you can trust in the fc that meets the requirements whom could purchase the plot?

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That's the plan, but I'd also really like to make the run myself to increase my already incredibly poor chances. I'll figure it out one way or another...

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Originally Posted by killstein

"* Players possessing housing above this limit prior to patch 4.2 will not be affected by this change.
* It is possible to relocate estate halls to empty plots."

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I missed this part, granted havn't had my coffee yet but i'm glad they sticked to that. Now i can hopefully relocate my medium to a large :D

Question:

I'm aware that the houses in the new wards will be available for purchase starting on February 6th, but my question pertains to the particular time this will happen. Will it be 12 AM on February 6th? And if so, what timezone would that be, as I'm currently located in an EST timezone.

If we don't have a particular time, then at least I'll know to spend all day waiting lol.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Asthuran

Question:

I'm aware that the houses in the new wards will be available for purchase starting on February 6th, but my question pertains to the particular time this will happen. Will it be 12 AM on February 6th? And if so, what timezone would that be, as I'm currently located in an EST timezone.

If we don't have a particular time, then at least I'll know to spend all day waiting lol.

Thanks!

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Unknown at this time but i'm guessing it will be 6-10AM GMT (sorry i'm EU)

I thought the idea was to not have another 4.1 Savage. But with them staggering FC housing and personal housing it sounds like they are going to put in another limited amount of houses. So the personal housing gets to have another 4.2 Savage and hell FC probably will to.

If they had enough housing for everything they wouldn't bother staggering.

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Originally Posted by Asthuran

Question:

I'm aware that the houses in the new wards will be available for purchase starting on February 6th, but my question pertains to the particular time this will happen. Will it be 12 AM on February 6th? And if so, what timezone would that be, as I'm currently located in an EST timezone.

If we don't have a particular time, then at least I'll know to spend all day waiting lol.

Thanks!

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Any times posted on the NA site will be Pacific. I can't find posted times for the maint next week yet, otherwise I'd convert time zones for you.

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Originally Posted by Maku

I thought the idea was to not have another 4.1 Savage. But with them staggering FC housing and personal housing it sounds like they are going to put in another limited amount of houses. So the personal housing gets to have another 4.2 Savage and hell FC probably will to.

If they had enough housing for everything they wouldn't bother staggering.

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Of course they're only adding a limited amount of houses. They added 6 new wards. I understand the part about server stability, and how they can only add a limited amount at a time, but they really need to figure out something better (like maybe instanced personal housing and apartments that you can upgrade in size so they're more than just an FC room). There will never be enough houses for everyone with the current system in place.

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Originally Posted by Asthuran

I'm aware that the houses in the new wards will be available for purchase starting on February 6th, but my question pertains to the particular time this will happen. Will it be 12 AM on February 6th? And if so, what timezone would that be, as I'm currently located in an EST timezone.

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For FC houses and relocating, it will be one hour after servers come online and servers will not come online early. This means servers will go live at 2am PST/5am EST and houses will open at 3am PST/6am EST.

Personal housing is a complete unknown. They may opt to post an advance notice, as they're doing with this Feb 6th maintenance, or they could pull a Christmas 2015 and just randomly flip the switch at any time from 6am EST on Feb 6th onwards. For the sake of your sanity, I would hold out on camping plots while praying it's the former.

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Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/

• If you have an alt character on the same world, that is in an FC that has a house, you personally cannot buy property for any other FC (you can relocate for them)

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This is a problem. Just being in an FC doesn't mean you run the FC, have authority in the FC, or can access all the amenities. Someone may be in an FC with one character to play with friends, but they want to start their own FC on another character. They don't own the house for the other FC and may not even be able to access more than the basic items. It's not right they wouldn't be able to purchase their own FC house when they don't already own one.

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Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid

For FC houses and relocating, it will be one hour after servers come online and servers will not come online early. This means servers will go live at 2am PST/5am EST and houses will open at 3am PST/6am EST.

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Oh my. I was there for the 4.1 log in rush and I made it in while many others didn't. So this is a good thing, I think. Although I can see everyone piling around the aetheryte spam clicking and potentially make things worse lol

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

This is a problem. Just being in an FC doesn't mean you run the FC, have authority in the FC, or can access all the amenities. Someone may be in an FC with one character to play with friends, but they want to start their own FC on another character. They don't own the house for the other FC and may not even be able to access more than the basic items. It's not right they wouldn't be able to purchase their own FC house when they don't already own one.

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Leave the FC for a day and then come back?

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

This is a problem. Just being in an FC doesn't mean you run the FC, have authority in the FC, or can access all the amenities. Someone may be in an FC with one character to play with friends, but they want to start their own FC on another character. They don't own the house for the other FC and may not even be able to access more than the basic items. It's not right they wouldn't be able to purchase their own FC house when they don't already own one.

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Thing is it doesn't say if you are a member of an FC your character can't buy. It states you may "Own one FC and one private house. The person who is head of the FC is considered as owner and may relocate that FC. It will count towards them as their one FC, regardless of who has permissions to relinquish/demolish. This is my understanding.

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Originally Posted by Arazehl

Thing is it doesn't say if you are a member of an FC your character can't buy. It states you may "Own one FC and one private house. The person who is head of the FC is considered as owner and may relocate that FC. It will count towards them as their one FC, regardless of who has permissions to relinquish/demolish. This is my understanding.

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If you are a member of an FC with a house, then you own the FC house in SE's eyes, since some day you might inherit the FC if everyone else goes inactive.

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Originally Posted by Arazehl

Thing is it doesn't say if you are a member of an FC your character can't buy. It states you may "Own one FC and one private house. The person who is head of the FC is considered as owner and may relocate that FC. It will count towards them as their one FC, regardless of who has permissions to relinquish/demolish. This is my understanding.

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It does. From that page.

"Has another character on the same World that is a member of a free company that owns land" and the column for Eligible to Purchase Free Company Land is "No"

It's as the MizArai described. And you would have to do what Flash says and leave the FC to purchase the land. That's a broken system when it actively encourages you to leave your FC.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

It does. From that page.

"Has another character on the same World that is a member of a free company that owns land" and the column for Eligible to Purchase Free Company Land is "No"

It's as the MizArai described. And you would have to do what Flash says and leave the FC to purchase the land. That's a broken system when it actively encourages you to leave your FC.

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i think they are doing it that way as another preventative measure against people hoarding

This is ultimately just the end result of what the community has been begging Square to do: Make it harder for people to hoard houses/buy them up for the express purpose of reselling.

Unfortunately they did that without realizing that anything Square does to inconvenience that small subset of players will also inconvenience everyone else in the process. Arguably moreso.

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Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid

Personal housing is a complete unknown. They may opt to post an advance notice, as they're doing with this Feb 6th maintenance, or they could pull a Christmas 2015 and just randomly flip the switch at any time from 6am EST on Feb 6th onwards. For the sake of your sanity, I would hold out on camping plots while praying it's the former.

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I doubt we will see anything on Personal housing for at least a week or two after its been available to FCs. The housing site itself says they will monitor the situation with housing and investigate the potential of allowing private purchases again. To me this means they will likely do a once a month data review the way it seems they handle server pop status checks.

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Originally Posted by Vrankyl

I doubt we will see anything on Personal housing for at least a week or two after its been available to FCs. The housing site itself says they will monitor the situation with housing and investigate the potential of allowing private purchases again. To me this means they will likely do a once a month data review the way it seems they handle server pop status checks.

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2 weeks or more. Maybe a month. But we all know by that time it will be too late (people would made small FC) and a shitstorm will hit both
forums and Reddit.


I even see how people would flip houses with FCs. Buckle up people

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

2 weeks or more. Maybe a month. But we all know by that time it will be too late (people would made small FC) and a shitstorm will hit both
forums and Reddit.


I even see how people would flip houses with FCs. Buckle up people

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the only way that can work in the new system is if someone wanted to have their own FC that doesn't currently own one... so -_-

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Originally Posted by Tussin

the only way that can work in the new system is if someone wanted to have their own FC that doesn't currently own one... so -_-

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If people are as desprate for a house like i think they are they'd leave their FC, make a LS for the social aspects and make a 4 man FC to get a house they be single man FC.

There is plenty "loopholes" and people will use them to any cost

Are the new wards going live as maintenance ends on the 6th. I heard comments about an hour later but don't know if that's true?

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Are the new wards going live as maintenance ends on the 6th. I heard comments about an hour later but don't know if that's true?

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It looks like that info is from an unofficial translation: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...live_part_xli/

I can't find it in any official translation however, nor is it documented on the guide they posted.