“Simply speak...” – Request for more in-depth contents

Greetings, adventurers.

Let me start this Topic by saying that any type of new content is a good thing, so I'm looking forward to the new Goobbue mount... and something tells me I'll hang around on top of my new pet near cliffs in La Noscea, just to listen to the beautiful Chrono Cross-style music. :D

That said, I read this in the patch notes, like Bayohne anticipated days ago:

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The goobbue horn, used to summon the goobbue mount, can be obtained by players level 30 or above. To do so, simply speak with the "wandering minstrel" NPC, who can be found in eastern La Noscea (36,25).

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Therefore, my request is: If in the future you plan to give us adventurers other type of mounts or presents like this, can you make it a little more... in-depth and challenging?
Nothing too exaggerated, but at least something that gives an Adventure! :)

Example of how the Goobbue could have been obtained:


We speak with the Wandering Minstrel, he tells us his story and, in order to give us his Goobbue Horn, a special Goobbue Notorious Monster has to be slain: a party of 4-6 level 30 adventurers would be needed to defeat him, while a level 50 might do it all my himself/herself, although with still a bit of challenge.
After proving our valor in slaying the fiend, the minstrel grants us the horn.
So one day, after the 7th Umbral Era, we'll be able to tell new adventurers of how we got our Goobbue pet and how exciting it was: A story worth to tell!


This is just a plain example to give an idea of my point, something that with a spoon-fed “Simply speak...” cannot be achieved.
Please take this kind of “more depths” to content/quests into consideration for the future, particularly for us living the temporary 7th Umbral Era period.

In the meantime, thank you Yoshida-san and the dev team for this new mount (and Great music :D). :)

Cloudio Onizuka

It is a gift. How do you receive a gift? By doing a long and potentially life threatening mission?

No.

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Yeah it would have much more fun to have a non-instanced quest to wrangle the beasts ourselves. I was hoping for a more... Avatar-ish mount-getting experience.

Stare down my mount and put it in a freakin' headlock.

Ah well.

EDIT: Brucey, /endtread is rude not only to the OP but also to the other persons on the forums who probably would like to continue discussing. You and no other poster on this forum has any right or responsibility to /endthread. Thank you.

I think it would've been awesome if he gave us the horn and we had to go out and charm our own goobbue from one of the high level areas.

This "gift" is no substitute for content - which is what the players want.

The Goobbue itself is no more than a model-swap for the Chocobo. It's mere cosmetic change and a poorly contrived one at that.

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

It is a gift. How do you receive a gift? By doing a long and potentially life threatening mission?

No.

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How is an adventure not a gift in a game all about adventure?

Geez, can you people stop complaining about every. Single. Thing?!
They're already working hard enough for 1.21 and 2.0.
As Bruce said, this is just a gift... more like a promo item (y'know, the thing that usually come with a Collector's Edition, and those don't have quests AFAIK).

Stop complaining.

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A gift is all about the experience in which is was given. If SE started of by saying that they wanted to include a new mount as a gift (which they did in the live letter), and made you do a lot of hoop jumping or placed a GC fee in order to receive it, then it isn't a gift.

You're lucky it just didn't pop up in your inventory for signing in. The fact that you don't have to go through a lot of hoop jumping, and they add in a bit of lore when they could have very well not done anything, validates you and the gift. They are just simply showing that you matter as a customer and giving you something fun with easy access. What more do you want from that? Honestly.

Any other content... I'd complain with you, but not when it was already stated to be a gift. You obviously don't know how to receive one.

Edit: Also, one more thing to add. How do you want challenging content to go along with a mount that is gained at Lv30? The only way to make this challenging is to make it into a big old fetch quest which would probably get you raging as much as you are about the subject currently you think is so gosh darn important. There is no winning. lol

I'm torn. I like a good quest where you have to do exciting and interesting things to obtain fantastic rewards. However, like a poster said above it is a gift for hanging around after billing has begun and should be easily obtainable by everyone. I do think some story to explain why your character is obtaining this rare mount is a good thing.

they probably have the quest design teams cranking out 2.0 quest and 1.21 job quest and the cost/benefit of adding a quest for an item that will not be available after a few more months probably didn't make sense to them. Also designing quest on a pre 2.0 engine is probably a pain.

Yay! So now I can go talk to NPC, get my horn, call Gobbue and stand around and do nothing. Thanks SE.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

This "gift" is no substitute for content - which is what the players want.

The Goobbue itself is no more than a model-swap for the Chocobo. It's mere cosmetic change and a poorly contrived one at that.

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http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3...lstorybrow.jpg

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Originally Posted by Lurex

Yay! So now I can go talk to NPC, get my horn, call Gobbue and stand around and do nothing. Thanks SE.

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It's a lettered patch. It's not supposed to have tons of content in it and no one is expecting some sort of epic adventure. But it smacks of just plain laziness (perhaps forced on them by the chronic spoonfeeding required by the Lodestone community?) to just have an NPC puke a Goobbue in your lap.

They should play vanguard saga of heros. The mount quests on those were EPIC. Just speaking to an npc and getting this new mount instantly is pathetic.

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

It is a gift. How do you receive a gift? By doing a long and potentially life threatening mission?

No.

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/whiteknighted

Here I was under the impression that the community wanted content...

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Originally Posted by Atlas

Geez, can you people stop complaining about every. Single. Thing?!
They're already working hard enough for 1.21 and 2.0.
As Bruce said, this is just a gift... more like a promo item (y'know, the thing that usually come with a Collector's Edition, and those don't have quests AFAIK).

Stop complaining.

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It's not like it's a group of people all complaining about everything as it comes out. Each thing released will have individual people who don't like it and will post about it. Even if they've never complained before. That's just how opinions are.

I'm not against this as a simple gift. But I don't want people going around thinking a desire for deeper content, even in simple gifts, isn't unwarranted either.

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Originally Posted by Majidah

/whiteknighted

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I see myself more as someone with greater common sense than the average FFXIV player. Far from a white knight. You'll never know when my blade forged from the bones of Judith Sheindlin will strike you down with some truth.

Bye.

I'd much rather they focus their resources on patch 1.21 and beyond, than taking aside people to work on a quest for a gift that won't even be obtainable post 2.0

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

It's a lettered patch. It's not supposed to have tons of content in it and no one is expecting some sort of epic adventure. But it smacks of just plain laziness (perhaps forced on them by the chronic spoonfeeding required by the Lodestone community?) to just have an NPC puke a Goobbue in your lap.

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Not according to what Yoshi said in his last letter. Go read it, and I quote:

"We’re already working on content for the year’s first patch, 1.20b, and developing the job system, job quests, and new dungeons (there’s two of them!) slated for 1.21 "

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Originally Posted by Masamune1004

Here I was under the impression that the community wanted content...

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I'm dying for some man. Like the moogle stuff is great, but it only lasted for a few days/week maybe before it was all done. Now I'm grinding for Luminary tools, craft jobs, and trying to max out my seals because I'm just that... done with everything. =/

I'm crossing my fingers for some epic Meteor action later on. But yeah, I want it.

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Originally Posted by Lurex

"We’re already working on content for the year’s first patch, 1.20b, and developing the job system, job quests, and new dungeons (there’s two of them!) slated for 1.21 "

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Lurex, when he said "content for the next patch 1.20b" he was talking about what was actually in the patch. When I think content in this context, I think like... stuff to do. I never expect significant gameplay additions in a lettered patch.

But like I said in another thread, they seem to enjoy confusing people. I just wish this was like a seasonal event or something. They don't have much issue with even adding cutscenes for seasonal events.

man everything SE releases people bitch about. First getting a choco is to easy. then getting to fight moogle is to long.. blah blah blah. Getting a mount is NOT content. so stop looking for an awesome story for a glorified horse.

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Originally Posted by Lurex

Not according to what Yoshi said in his last letter. Go read it, and I quote:

"We’re already working on content for the year’s first patch, 1.20b, and developing the job system, job quests, and new dungeons (there’s two of them!) slated for 1.21 "

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content2 /ˈkɒntɛnt/

▶noun 1 (also contents) the things that are contained in something.
■ (contents) a list of chapters or sections at the front of a book or periodical.

Content's meaning isn't something MMOs have a monopoly on.

I agree with 'It's a gift' so normally when i get a gift i say 'Thank You' so:

[SIZE="6"]Thank You Yoshi-Peeeeeeeee![/SIZE]

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Originally Posted by DNO

First getting a choco is to easy.

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Getting it is not easy. Not for a starting player getting his/her first class to 25. It's also perfectly tied to the story, so that was a good mount introduction ihmo.

Those who saw it as easy were people with all classes to 50 and maxed out seals - which is their own fault. That's the main problem about the "lack of content" - it's there, but people are burning through it faster than SE can add some since they have to work on getting 2.0 done in parallel.

As for the Gobbue mount, it was just a gift for sticking with them until 2.0 and while I agree there should be more than "speak with the NPC" to get something (like getting a chocobo), in this case it's acceptable.

You can't even name your goobbue... /sadface.

Plus he's SO big I can't see and I"m running into things and having to feel my way around the landscape. What a disaster. Back to chocobos.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

How is an adventure not a gift in a game all about adventure?

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Because on this forum a big portion of the “Contructive Feedbacks/Requests Topics” is seen as “Merciless Complaint Topics”, and there's nothing that can be done about that or those actually complaining about it. There's always that risk when opening a request thread here. ;)

However, it's beyond my comprehension how Adventurers can refuse an Adventure. :D Or any new/more in-depth content, for that matter. And considering my positive opinion on the Goobue mount, my request is for future contents, and like I said nothing too elaborated.
Yoshida-san already said that they would have released sidequests on a regular basis: I don't see anything wrong in giving us these presents in a more adventurous manner and 1 sidequest less in the next patch.

Well, I've said everything in the first post, I can't be clearer than that.
As usual, I hope the reps will forward my request to the dev team. :)

And now, Goobbue Time!

Even though there was no quest, at least the lore in the dialog was a nice touch.

+1 Definitely tired of this attitude that has been going around as of late. Why can't we earn anything?

PL to 50, Quests that are guided, free gifts, short holiday events, long wall text quests that have utterly lacking.

When does it end? I appreciate the mount, but there were so many different options that could have been taken to make this all the more satisfying. This is Final Fantasy. Where in the sevens hells of Vylbrand is the damn STORY CONTENT!?!?!?

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

+1 Definitely tired of this attitude that has been going around as of late. Why can't we earn anything?

PL to 50, Quests that are guided, free gifts, short holiday events, long wall text quests that have utterly lacking.

When does it end? I appreciate the mount, but there were so many different options that could have been taken to make this all the more satisfying. This is Final Fantasy. Where in the sevens hells of Vylbrand is the damn STORY CONTENT!?!?!?

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You mean... the GC quests? And the Dalamud fanatics? And.... you know.... the main story arc? Hamlet defense coming.... jobs.... 2 dungeons... I'm sure it'll all just be handed to us... More periods, you say... ? Ok...

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Originally Posted by Answa

You mean... the GC quests? And the Dalamud fanatics? And.... you know.... the main story arc? Hamlet defense coming.... jobs.... 2 dungeons... I'm sure it'll all just be handed to us... More periods, you say... ? Ok...

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Oh you mean the 4 quests we get every 3 months? The disjointed main storyline? The poor side quests? Or the Dalamud Fanatics that was nothing more than a wall of text with 5 waves of pathetic mobs?

That's not what I would call a Final Fantasy storyline.

I want a TRUE main story arc. Not disjointed wall of text quests that are nothing more than mind numbing instance teleporting crap. We don't have to work for anything, and everything is implemented so poorly.

I am giving them the benefit of the doubt now because they have a game to fix, but when 2.0 comes. The patience I have now will no longer be there.

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

Oh you mean the 4 quests we get every 3 months? The disjointed main storyline? The poor side quests? Or the Dalamud Fanatics that was nothing more than a wall of text with 5 waves of pathetic mobs?

That's not what I would call a Final Fantasy storyline.

I want a TRUE main story arc. Not disjointed wall of text quests that are nothing more than mind numbing instance teleporting crap.

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Final Fantasy storylines build upon each other. You can't just see the parts as separate things. We get part of the storyline in Lodestone reports, even.

We don't know where the story is headed, anyway. We don't even know how much it'll be changed for 2.0. So... a disjointed storyline is to be expected.

There a popular song out....it says...

"all I hear is whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine"

Or something to that effect.

Anyway, continue.

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Originally Posted by SirOleas

There a popular song out....it says...

"all I hear is whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine"

Or something to that effect.

Anyway, continue.

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It's not whining. It's a suggestion, and a slight wake up call. The story in this game sucks, simply put. Final Fantasy XI even in it's most basic form of quest lines is leagues better than this. There are those of us that care about storyline. Why should I care about saving the world, or riding a gobbue if everything is so shallow, quick, and disjointed?

I want this game to succeed, and i'm not going to quit. However as I have paid for this game. I have the right to voice my opinion, whether you or anyone else likes it or not.

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

It is a gift. How do you receive a gift? By doing a long and potentially life threatening mission?

No.

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Someone TEACHING me how to charm, capture, and train a mount like this would still be seen as a great gift while also adding a bit of content to the game. Insead we get people like you that want every single thing handed to them so they can THEN get back to flaming the game and the people that support it.

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

It's not whining. It's a suggestion, and a slight wake up call. The story in this game sucks, simply put. Final Fantasy XI even in it's most basic form of quest lines is leagues better than this. There are those of us that care about storyline. Why should I care about saving the world, or riding a gobbue if everything is so shallow, quick, and disjointed?

I want this game to succeed, and i'm not going to quit. However as I have paid for this game. I have the right to voice my opinion, whether you or anyone else likes it or not.

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And if you had half a brain you would understand the story is disjointed because loltanka made a shit story to begin with. In any case what the hell does shitty story have to do with being gifted a goobbue mount or more engaging content period? You could have a freaking awesome story without engaging content, ever read a book? My guess is no.

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Originally Posted by SirOleas

And if you had half a brain you would understand the story is disjointed because loltanka made a shit story to begin with. In any case what the hell does shitty story have to do with being gifted a goobbue mount or more engaging content period? You could have a freaking awesome story without engaging content, ever read a book? My guess is no.

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If I had half a brain eh? Pretty funny that you resort to insults so quickly. Stop placing blame on Tanaka for everything. The entire team is at fault for what happened. He was the leader of the game that had awesome storylines in a previous game. So don't give me that crap. It would have been a lot better to have helped this NPC with a situation, or at least have had to go out and find our own horns. Having it given to us is boring.

+1 to Biggs.

Just because someone did good work in previous games does not excuse him for his BS efforts in this one. You can say whatever you want in the case of Goobbues and how you believe that it should have been more engaging, but in the end a gift is a gift, It's not like you chill by the tree at Christmas and wait for your granny to hand you a present only to have her say "First you gotta go kill 10 ants because they are ruining my garden." Give me a break.

> _> why do you ppl have to be so nasty with your words to each other?

You know there's a way to converse without resorting to slander and subtle mockery...

The milk is already spilt stop crying about it and at least respect each other.

Differed opinions doesn't mean we have to have an all troll fest every patch.

you know, i really don't "care" that we didn't have to "quest" for the goobbue... given the fact that I burnt half my anima getting a chocobo...

needless to say, this was just SE throwing players "a bone" for actually paying for this game... and I don't think that is a bad thing at all...