Scholar job actions

Replace Sustain, Dissipation and Deployment tactics to something more useful please.

There is very minimal usage on these actions in my opinion.

Also can we change Selene to a dps pet with minimal heal like her current status now cause her support actions not that great in most cases only situational.
And keep Eos for healing pet as it is now.

Scholars have literally a bit of everything and every skill is something situational and all of them together cover a complete toolkit ready to take care of any situations. Thanks to that Scholar is too strong right now, you just happened to list the most situational.

having a shield deployed to everyone off the start of a tough fight is absolutely essential. allows for extra wiggle room. sometimes you need to eat the fairy to get stacks for emergency healing. you don't know what you're talking about.

Deplyoment tactics? like seriously? i wanna watch you do Shinryu ex in minimal IL and see you survive without it, especially with not very top tier group. oh, and them Almagests in o4s
also you clearly don't understand how it saves another healer trouble throwing additional heal when you use it, even when such heavy mitigation not required to survive.
about dissipation i tire of explaining what it is good and just needs maybe a bit of adjustment, not total overhaul

Have you not used Deployment in a high damage mechanic before, friend? I'm not sure how you could and not see value in the skill. I never tire of deploying a crit-lo and watching a previously terrifying mechanic hit like a wet noodle.

Sustain isn't needed for SCH but because Arcanist is a pet class, it transfers over just like Physick does to SMN.
Dissapation is a very niche action and the general player may not get much if any use out of it. Raiders on the other hand can use this to a great advantage so it's really down to the situation.
Deployment Tactics is an amazing action when paired with crit-aldo. It can often protect completely against many attacks for whoever receives the benefit,. Normal DT Aldo barriers can still be handy but the long cd means you should plan when you use it for the best effect. This was also a great action when Eye for an Eye came with the trait on SCH, but since the changes to the cross role system, Deployment Tactics is mostly there for the shield.

Deployment Tactics could use an overhaul because it's intended use for Adlo and Eye4Eye isn't that great. Most Scholars never have a reason to spread Eye4Eye or to even use the skill period in most instances. Deployment really should be a buff like Swiftcast in my opinion where you use it first and then cast any single target healing spell afterward with the effect spread to everyone nearby. Adloquium would share the initial heal and Shield while Physick would become a low cost AoE. Of course you couldn't guarantee spreading a Critlo but a simple fix would be to have DT increase your crit chance slightly on your next single target spell. Either way spreading Physick or Adlo is better than spreading Adlo with Eye4Eye.

Sustain is just fine. It doesn't bother me and I use it occasionally but it would be great if Arcanist had a trait that allowed Sustain to Proc randomly. I would trade that for the weird free Succor we rarely get from Sacred Soil. Dissipation has so many threads I don't even wanna begin to discuss how it's "useful sometimes but not most of the time and it could be better but..."

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Originally Posted by LachleinStratos

Replace Sustain, Dissipation and Deployment tactics to something more useful please.

There is very minimal usage on these actions in my opinion.

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I'm guessing you don't do endgame content with the job perhaps?

Deployment is almost required for early progression in EX, Savage and beyond whereas Sustain is pretty solid in any encounter that likes to gradually chip away at your pet.

Dissipation could use some tweaking to help it make more sense and define it's purpose better, but that's about it really.

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Originally Posted by Sebazy

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This.

All could use a bit of tweaking, Dissipation more than the other two, but all of these skills are acceptable as of now. Deployment Tactics just feels a bit iffy now since it only works with Adlo. Giving it another use or shortening its CD would make it feel more on par with other skills. Dissipation is the only one where people are still like huh??? And that seems easy to fix. Why SE hasn't done it yet is anyones guess, as we've seen they can adjust mid expansion.

i agree with everyones feedback and thank you for your time.

Deployment tactics effectively got worse when succor was buffed in 4.1. The shield difference between a normal adlo and succor is only 75 potency. The closest comparison is White Mage’s Plantary Indulgence which effectively gives a minimum of 150 bonus healing and has a shorter cooldown. DT also has a smaller range than other AOE heals (10 yalms) while succor has 15 yalms and WHM PI has a giant 30 yalm range. To add further insult, the cooldown is also quite long (120 sec).

Outside of critical aldos, it is a bit meh. Might as well use it on cooldown if you cast Adlo since it is instant and there is a bit if gCD time right after to not clip.

I can't take seriously someone who says Deployment Tactics is useless.

I'm sorry.

For dissapation, I wish it reset aetherflow cooldowns. After accelerated aetherflow, you don’t really have anything good besides lustrate left. Unless you need burst single tsrget healing immedately, it is not that useful sincw you lose just as much from the lost embraces, so you are not really gaining healing effeciency. I guess if you continue to spam adlo/succor after, the 20% bonus might make up for the lost embraces. I agree with others it needs a couple tweaks like increasing fairy gauge, adding the bonus 20% to all healing and not just spells, and (I think) resetting your aetherflow ability cooldowns.

Assuming real potency of 170 for embrace, losing the fairy for 30 sec is 3400 lost healing potency. 3 lustrate is 1800. So you lose quite a lot if healing over time. I think the best use I guess is near the end of a fight when the lost HOT would be wasted anyway.

Oh wait, my math is wrong. It is only 1700 lost embrace value + 1 action to resummon fairy (could of been an adlo, so adding 600).

2300 to 1800 is still a loss, but not too bad if you need quick healing. Best near end of battle still.

We can't only see Dissipation trought a comparison between 3 lustrate vs 10 embrace.
That could be used for emergency need to use Indom instead, or even some Energy drain because you have a cruel need of mana and your co-healer died or whatever.
That could even be used when that extra healing from the fairy isn't really need at a certain moment and dissipating her to use some energy drain and then make your AF cooldown be reduced.

Could also be used for the extra 20% extra healing that will be apply directly on your shields or because you might need some high raw heal (emergency tactics then). (and largess is on CD)

Anyways, there's a lot of situation when Dissipation isn't just Embrace VS Lustrate.
And encounters are never the same.

This is just harder to see how correctly use it, but it's definitly not as useless as people think it is.
And if people think so... then sorry to be rude but they should probably try to play the game a little more and experience more content to use the whole toolkit of Scholar.

It's actually a good backup skill if you're not planning to use it otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Deployment Tactics just feels a bit iffy now since it only works with Adlo. .

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If you hit some people with succor and want to spread it, you can deploy galvanize off succor as well. It just won't be as great of a shield, but would be clutch if someone had, say, allagan field and was about to get hit with terminal anti-light..

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Originally Posted by LachleinStratos

Replace Sustain, Dissipation and Deployment tactics to something more useful please.

There is very minimal usage on these actions in my opinion.

Also can we change Selene to a dps pet ....
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Replace ? What do you mean? Thier awesome

Dissipation is +20% Heal for 30sec + Aether Flow. Great for Burst phases

Deployment Tactics is amazing for raid shielding, especially if ADLO Crits. 20k Raid Shield? Yes Please. Great Synergy with healing+ abilities (Dissipation, Convalescence, Largesse, Fey illumination, Warriors Defiance)

Sustain is sustain. Its nothing miraculous but does it job.

I dont think they need to be more useful, while they could use some QoL tweaks. If I worked for SE, i would Give Dissipation the Bahamut Treatment, its pretty clunky as is. I would also change DT CD to 90sec verses 120.

I do agree that Selene needs some love tho.

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Originally Posted by KDSilver

I can't take seriously someone who says Deployment Tactics is useless.

I'm sorry.

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My thoughts exactly. He lost credibility when he said that. IMO DT is so useful, i wish it CD was shorter

I feel like the extra long cool down on Deployment is because it can spread Eye for an Eye. I would gladly give up the ability to Spread Eye4Eye if the cool-down would be reduced by 30 seconds.

Deployment only feels lackluster cuz they over buffed succor. (dun nerf plz)