Adjust Shadow Wall recast before 4.2!

The DRK changes we got were certainly nice, but sadly not nearly enough.

This thread serves as hopefully a spur to the developers to at least adjust the recast time for Shadow Wall before 4.2 hits, as it's currently worse than both Sentinel and Vengeance (which paradoxically did get some attention it didn't need, though I suppose you could say that about the whole WAR change. Up for debate, I guess?)

Let your voice be heard! And hopefully this small numeric change will be considered for the patch.

I agree this would be helpful!

It should offer more or last longer.

I absolutely agree, and I doubt it would be all that difficult a change to make compared to the... other suggestions people have.

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Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere

It should offer more or last longer.

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No. It's literally edgy Sentinel, it is just on too long of a recast time. It literally just needs to have its recast lowered to be the same as Sentinel and Vengeance.

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Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn

No. It's literally edgy Sentinel, it is just on too long of a recast time. It literally just needs to have its recast lowered to be the same as Sentinel and Vengeance.

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>DRK should get something to make up for what it's lacking.
>What about boosting up what we have to do more?
>No, keep it as it is but make us able to use it more.

Valid, sure, but after seeing how WAR's getting a ****ton of changes after X amount of their playerbase decried "WE WANT MOAR," I'm quite fed up with simply saying "Can we get some change?" when we deserve a cheque payable to all DRK's for how slighted the class has been.

can I get sentinel cooldown reducation too

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Originally Posted by Jukebox12

can I get sentinel cooldown reducation too

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What's that? Paladins say they need more defensive utility on the "defensive" tank? Sentinel now lasts 90 seconds, we're so sorry for nerfing your DPS like 1%.

...Did someone say something about some Wall? No? Must have been the wind.

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Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere

when we deserve a cheque payable to all DRK's for how slighted the class has been.

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I don't disagree, but Shadow Wall is fine as is. I'd much rather they restore Shadowskinor provide another skill and merge Blood Weapon / Blood Price into the same button that toggles when in or out of Grit.

There are changes we could benefit from, but a longer, stronger Shadow Wall is just redundant and still doesn't fill the gap we have with our lack of mitigation. Furthermore, were it stronger, it would stack with TBN's 20% if used at the same time which would just be...excessive. Imagine a 40/50% Shadow Wall combined with a 20% TBN and a Galvanize / Nocturnal Shield.. its a bit much when they could just give Shadowskin back to fill the defense gap.

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Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn

... and merge Blood Weapon / Blood Price into the same button that toggles when in or out of Grit.

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I think this works out to be a nerf (very small since blood price is LOL). If they share a button there is every possibility they will share a timer as well. Meaning that if you find yourself pulling you will need to hold blood price to be able to hit blood weapon as soon as you leave grit. I would much rather they take the stance lock off blood price and blood weapon so both skills can be used regardless of stance.

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Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising

I think this works out to be a nerf (very small since blood price is LOL). If they share a button there is every possibility they will share a timer as well. Meaning that if you find yourself pulling you will need to hold blood price to be able to hit blood weapon as soon as you leave grit. I would much rather they take the stance lock off blood price and blood weapon so both skills can be used regardless of stance.

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Ah... you're right, my bad, that's definitely not what we need then. Removing the stance lock like it used to be should be the solution then, that explains why they didn't tie them to one another. Thanks for the insight, I totally ddidn't think about that.

Live letter said they increased DRK's dps to match WAR and PLD, and increased overall usability

http://timothykurek.com/wp-content/u...ector-meme.jpg

How about a skill that grant blood price while grit is on and blood weapon while its off

In patch 4.25 DRK will get 5 potency more on dark passenger, thats confirmed.

Instead of doing that, give us a brand new ability...call it shadow skin or something and have it reduce damage by 20%.

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Originally Posted by Tegernako

Instead of doing that, give us a brand new ability...call it shadow skin or something and have it reduce damage by 20%.

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It's much easier to adjust one variable than to reimplement an ability, I have to imagine- again, this thread serves to hopefully get a last-minute change added in, not to discuss what the best way to adress DRK's mitigation could be. It's true we still lack fluff mitigation cooldowns, but I'm not expecting them to add a whole new cooldown in a matter of 2 days; besides, a buff to Shadow Wall is long, long overdue.

While your at it. Walking dead is 300 seconds. Holmgang is 180 seconds and it doesn't kill you if you don't get to 100%.
Why does war literally get better cooldowns with shorter cooldowns?
Vengeance is a shorter cooldown than shadow wall and has an amazing counterattack effect that is just awesome in AoW.
It really seems like the devs want war to be OP and don't care who knows it.
YP must really hate DRK's because anyone who looks at their skills vs pld or war can see they are garbage by comparison.

I think by the time they show us notes it's too late to take feedback. Dev process too slow to make eleventh hour swerves. Maybe it will be easier to balance in some way next expansion if there's a fourth tank that compliments drk pairing better than it does the others, idk.

They don't hesitate to hotfix when they screw up and leave in a exploit so there is no reason we should have to wait months for a simple dps increase. If they don't want to really fix DRK they can at least boost their dps to make them viable.
Right now even if their dps is brought in line with the others they will still be the worst and not worth a slot.

Dark Arts effect: duration extended by 5 seconds.

Look forward to it.