Need help/advice please!

Hi!

I'm very close to ending the SB msq and i've got 1900 creations stocked up (did it the wrong way).

Problem: I've levelled a SAM, PLD, AST to 70. I know i don't want to main AST cause healing higher tier content is too much stress, but i'm still hesitating between SAM and PLD and I need to make up my mind to not waste my creations on the wrong items/class.

There it is: do you reckon it's better to main a DPS or a TANK? I know for lower tier content there's an overall higher demand for tanks, so faster DF/roulette queues, faster PF groups, but how about when I will have unlocked all the high tier content? Is there any difference between the demand for tanks or dps? (an example where dps have already an advantage are Alliance Raids and when I did A12S tank spots often filled pretty quickly.)

Follow-up:

So: tank or dps, which job is better? Not talking about taste (pls don't answer me that), i am talking about utility/demand/comfort with queues and parties. Oh and don't forget my DPS is a SAM with zero utility ;3

Thank you! *-*

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Originally Posted by Ochaco

I know for lower tier content there's an overall higher demand for tanks, so faster DF/roulette queues, faster PF groups,

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Originally Posted by Ochaco

Oh and don't forget my DPS is a SAM with zero utility ;3

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Honestly it sounds like you just want us to say tank. So it should be a no brainer. just go tank.

Honestly, you should main the job you enjoy most, regardless of role, queue times, utility, etc.. You aren't going to perform nearly as well if you're on a job you love less (I'm guessing you're interested in Savage by your mention of higher-tier content?), so you should play the job you love most. Because you will perform much better, queue times be damned.

In terms of utility for raid groups, since you're asking, serious ones will want a job with utility. SAM doesn't offer that, so they would want you on PLD. Casual/midcore groups won't care, so long as you have a decent performance on your role, show up to raid, are a team player, etc..

That being said, nothing is stopping you from having a main and secondary. I main BRD, and secondary Noct AST, SCH, and RDM.

Well like I said it's not really a matter of what i love most, i don't have a real preference as of right now, so i'm hesitating: i believe it'd be easier to be a dps, but being a tank gives you some nice benefits

Now, yes i'm interested in raids (savage) so if you're telling me some groups won't want my SAM because of its lack of utility, then i'll probably go with my PLD now because i don't have any other dps class and the plan was to spend my creations now.

About secondary jobs: yeah sure i'll get more than one class, preferably different roles as well like i did now (sam, ast, pld) but right now i need to decide for a main so i know what i330 i'm going to buy.

anyway thanks for your reply :)

The best answer in order:

1. Use fantasia
2. Switch to ROE
3. Level WARRIOR to 70

:)

If you go Samurai, you will be competing a lot for spots in the party finder. More often than not, you'll see a party and feel like joining it, only to see they already have a melee DPS. And if you notice, tanks are often what is left unfilled.

So if you really like to play as a Paladin, then go with that. You'll spend less time looking for parties. Not to mention instant Duty Roulette queues. It's just so much better.

Play a tank. With the NA mentality nobody will want a SAM even though it really doesn't matter unless you're going for those top 1% groups.

Uh this is kind of a silly request, don’t you think? Choose the one you like to play most. Otherwise - play MCH.

Based on your criteria, I'd say go tank. Tanks are always in demand at all levels and generally tank mechanics are easier than dps mechanics. The downside is that when you screw up tanking, everyone knows.

I would say PLD would have it the easiest between that and SAM

First, you would just have everything instant, i mean, beside the 24man raid 2 weeks before the next patch, there's no content that wait for dps.
And trust me, this is HIGH QoL, no matter which group you'll look for in pf, 90% of the time you'll see 2 blue empty slot(tank spots)


Second, altough SAM rotation isn't super duper hard from what I've heard, you're still a dps meaning that if you fail at your rotation you're basically not doing your job and failing your rotation when you learn a fight isn't super hard.

On the other hand, PLD and DRK have it super easy rotation wise. You do 1 or 2 threat combo on pull and you simply do your basic combo the whole freaking fight while keeping your DoT up in the paladin case. (of course there's much more to that when it comes down to min maxing, but doing just that would ensure a good enough baseline dps.)

As a PLD you have the luxury to be able to heal yourself and bring amazing utility to the raid such as AoE shield and Immunity allowing you to skip some mechanics.
As a SAM you... bring selfish dps meaning that if you don't excel at it, you're rather useless (imagine an astrologian not shooting cards), unlike MCH, BRD or NIN who can bring great raid buffs and utility, you only bring dps. Meaning that if it's not there, you're not fullfilling your role, and so far most SAM I've encountered in pf fail at being first dps (second in case there's SMN or BLM for OS1 2)

As a PLD you have what we can call "tank privilege" during boss battle. Meaning that if a healer has to choose between you or a SAM for the emergency heal in extremis for the next AoE damage, you'll have it. No healer will let you die over a dps unless you're offtanking and the raid is about to hit enrage in a few secs.
The fact that you are a tank allow you to survive mechanics much much more easily. you went at the wrong place and are about to be smooshed by an aoe, as a PLD you have plenty of option to survive, as a SAM you just die become anether dps the healer has to rez while sighing behind his desktop being happy you're not a healer

So in other words, from my own experience at least, it is easier to be a good tank.
Your dps rotation is simplier,you're less vulnerable to raid wide mechanics, you don't have to adapt to tank not placing the boss properly (positional and stuff)

I main healer and go dps or tank for fun in OS1 2 and Shin, and trust me, pulling good dps as BLM was much harder than pulling fine tanking as a DRK. (mostly on shin)
At least for me, every second i'm not dpsing (while I could), i know i'm failing as a dps since it is the only reason why i'm here
On the other hand, having the boss on me makes it easier to keep a good uptime, 20% dps loss on a DRK isn't the same as 20% dps loss on a BLM., so basically as long I pop CD when needed , place the boss properly (which isn't hard in most fight) and spamming 123, i'm fine overall.

So, go PLD, for real (if you're equally unsure about SAM v sPAL and you enjoy them both equally)
As a side note, if you're really into min maxing dps, don't worry, there's at least over 9000 page on "how to max your dps as a PAL" on the internet and most people will be rather happy to have a tank trying to dish the last bit of dps he can.