4.2 Live Letter Part 1 Feast changes.

Discuss them here.

Personally, I like them. But I always like when they change things around. Both positive and negative things with the changes of course, but I can't really pin-point negative stuff right now. I'm not sure how I feel about light medal buff and healer maybe being able to predict who to heal easier.

- With the new re-spawn rule, I wonder what the re-spawn time will be?
- No more new players having medal problems is good. On one hand, it makes feast even easier and more hand-holding but whether thats a good or bad thing is up to the individual of course. Seems there will be less matches lost because of mistakes in early ranks at least, not sure how it will affect top games.
- Shorter matches, more queues is always good. Shorter matches are also less mp problems for healer so we'll see how that works.
- New map = great!
- Teams registrations = great, but I want more info.

All in all, surprising update tbh. Shows that they are willing to change things around more, which gives me hope.

They made a mael style feast map, then they made an adders map. So what can possible come next ? ye you guessed right, a crystal tower map.

There is no penalty for leading a match anymore(or is there still heavy medal status?). Comebacks will depend on the modified culling/sudden death timer, if it is low enough it could work out, if it is almost the same as now, 1 kill might ensure your party the win already.

I think respawn time will be same, but after that change, not help running into spawn point like ppl do now. I think it will be easier kill another partymember if you manage get healer down after this change. There is more details.
https://i.imgur.com/OLN9EAp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ues1DM5.jpg

I'm not sure what to make of it just yet. I don't think any of this is bad, but I suppose I'll have to try it myself before I have an opinion of it.

I DO however hope this means we get a preseason and not just shotgunned into season 7.

I will definitely try PvP out now with these changes!

I trully hope there's more to it in the Part 2 of the LL.

For now, Tanks seems to be limited to 4 stacks, Melee DPS to 3, Ranged DPS to 2 and Healers to 1. Anyone that dies, gets a DEF buff, meaning it'll be harder for them to die multiple times.
The 6 minutes matches are a good change ofc, but leaves me worried because that's a "buff" on Healer's MP management.
The new map seems a good addition, no walls. A true face-off kind of match, no more hiding behind bad netcode.

All I need to know is what they'll do on job adjustments.

So a tank with 150 medals pick up 75 medals, does that mean 25 medals will still be left to be pickup?

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Originally Posted by Etrius

For now, Tanks seems to be limited to 4 stacks, Melee DPS to 3, Ranged DPS to 2 and Healers to 1.

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Mhm... it's actually 4-2-1-0 if the Feast guide is any indication. Disregard if that has been changed without updating.

Death in general will probably become a bit harder until Culling. You rarely attacked the one with def supplies anyway, so the supply removal mostly means less overall offense. Light Medal adds to that, as does "Healer MP management".

Overall, I'd expect more Culling time. It'll probably come faster with the faster match time and since the rest is mostly a buff to the defensive side of things, you'll get in there more frequently. I'd also expect less:"Fall Back!" spam and more "Collect Medals!" spam.

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Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

So a tank with 150 medals pick up 75 medals, does that mean 25 medals will still be left to be pickup?

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Mhm... it's actually 4-2-1-0 if the Feast guide is any indication. Disregard if that has been changed without updating.

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Oh... about that, i was just guessing these numbers when i read the "Stack increase rate adjusted" bit. We'll still need confirmation on that.

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Originally Posted by Etrius

Oh... about that, i was just guessing these numbers when i read the "Stack increase rate adjusted" bit. We'll still need confirmation on that.

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Well, they mentioned it in one line with culling time, so I would assume it means Culling Time Stacks will come at a faster pace.

I'm more wondering what Culling Time Duration would be, because I always thought it lasts until someone finally dies.

I like what I'm seeing...won't really know for sure until I try it.

Shame that players can't be on multiple teams, though I understand why.

I'm very interested to see how this plays out. The Feast needed changes, and it's good to see that they're willing to shake up the rules a bit rather than let the mode stagnate any further. Looking forward to trying this out (please make sure there's a pre-season! Preferably a longer than usual one to let us learn and adjust!)

Really like the Light Medal mechanic and a third map. The only thing that is missing now is a rank decay system.

The medal system has always bother me, in, the team that is winning for getting kills is the one being punish. Hopefully, the changes to the medal helps the winning team.

Some of these changes feel like SE is trying to hardcode good play. You're supposed to spread the medals out on your team, now it's impossible to do otherwise. You should be rotating killing all the roles instead of farming the weakest one, then using the advantage to farm others, now the weakest one will be harder to kill as well as give less medals from before. Advantages shouldn't snowball, so now the time you are down a man is lessened a little since they don't need to run back.

The lower match time and higher defense I'm guessing is going to be balanced out by a nastier culling time. This might end up strengthening DPS and weakening healers, since healers will reach their limits much more quickly if culling time is boosted. That's when you'd see the difference in DPS then, in terms of coordination and skill. Before it was really just which healer was exhausted first.

It might shift it more in Wolf's Den direction, where it's less of an endurance fight.

The changes with medals will make the games way more scripted in regards to who to kill next.. as if Stormblood PvP wasn't scripted enough already. It's also going throw range class balance, new map has only pillars which means have fun avoiding BLM Fire IV's. Plus with the Light Medal mechanic you're going to have a harder time killing the BLM several times to give your team/healer some breathing room for a bit.

Did they show pictures of the new map in the live letter?