bard performance "rant"

Sigh..... bard performance is cool and all but there is one fatal flaw that was forgotten in the patch and this one

An OPTION in settings to turn off performances from other players

Its annoying to be going to lominsa and got several bard plucking at there harps

So please SE make optional setting for other players who do not want to listen to bards performance

Thanks in advance

No fun allowed.

System Configuration > Sound Settings > Player Effects Volume

It's new, let people try it out and have some fun with it.

More importantly... I need more hotbars to properly utilize the feature... please give me performance bars, I utilize all 10 provided hotbars for various class changes, markers, waypoints, emotes, minion/chocobo/mount features

An extra performance hotbars UI is needed or bard will stop being a useable battle-class for me as I turn full.... bard

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Originally Posted by Vanitas

No fun allowed.

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Not fun when u have a bunch of lalafels plucking away to annoy people with the performance

This should have been an option that came with bard performance to turn it off

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Originally Posted by Kyp

More importantly... I need more hotbars to properly utilize the feature...

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You can utilize the hotbar storage of unused classes (for example Archer) and use a macro to swap between them. For example, the following macro swaps hotbars 1-3 between Archer and Bard (using Lancer's hotbar #1 as a buffer):

/hotbar copy brd 1 lnc 1
/hotbar copy arc 1 brd 1
/hotbar copy lnc 1 arc 1
/hotbar copy brd 2 lnc 1
/hotbar copy arc 2 brd 2
/hotbar copy lnc 1 arc 2
/hotbar copy brd 3 lnc 1
/hotbar copy arc 3 brd 3
/hotbar copy lnc 1 arc 3

Executing it once will swap out your BRD 1-3 bars for your ARC 1-3 bars. Then you can set up your performance actions on them. Executing once more will swap back, storing your performance actions on ARC and bringing back your BRD combat actions. Obviously you can modify the macro for whatever bars you want to use.

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Originally Posted by Yhisa

Not fun when u have a bunch of lalafels plucking away to annoy people with the performance

This should have been an option that came with bard performance to turn it off

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You can turn it off with the "Other PCs" bar under Sound Settings.

I wonder if its going to get removed eventually. I'm going to bet its only a matter of time until SE gets sued by Metallica or some other over zealous "defender" of music rights as well.

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Originally Posted by Yhisa

Sigh..... bard performance is cool and all but there is one fatal flaw that was forgotten in the patch and this one

An OPTION in settings to turn off performances from other players

Its annoying to be going to lominsa and got several bard plucking at there harps

So please SE make optional setting for other players who do not want to listen to bards performance

Thanks in advance

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Someone asked for Orchestrion roles with this and I said the exact same thing pretty much.

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Originally Posted by ElazulHP

I wonder if its going to get removed eventually. I'm going to bet its only a matter of time until SE gets sued by Metallica or some other over zealous "defender" of music rights as well.

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They won't sue as they can't really have much of a case since this would be classified as a cover and sounds nothing like the original material.

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Originally Posted by Raikki

System Configuration > Sound Settings > Player Effects Volume

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This turns off all sound and even emotes.... from other players

Should have made a simple setting like this

Other PCs bard performance .... check on or off

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Originally Posted by Yhisa

This turns off all sound and even emotes.... from other players

Should have made a simple setting like this

Other PCs bard performance .... check on or off

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I'm aware, but it'll save you from the nightmare for now. People will stop spamming it soon anyway.

Give it some time to cool down. Of course everyone is playing with it right now.

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Originally Posted by Shouko

They won't sue as they can't really have much of a case since this would be classified as a cover and sounds nothing like the original material.

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Square's apprently scared of it since they stated they can cut you from FFXIV over it.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

Square's apprently scared of it since they stated they can cut you from FFXIV over it.

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My guess is their lawyers made them include it just to cover their butts in case some record company is feeling particularly litigious. I highly doubt that SE is going to waste resources actively looking for people doing cover songs. As long as no one blatantly rips off a major artist and posts a recording of it online or something and then someone sees it and kicks up a stink about copywrite, I really don't see SE taking any action at all.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

Square's apprently scared of it since they stated they can cut you from FFXIV over it.

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I don't see why they added this in the first place if they were so worried about it. It just seems like a waste of resources to implement it into the game only to remove it due to fear of getting DMCA notices.

New feature implemented.... let the complaining begin! /sigh

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Originally Posted by Yhisa

This turns off all sound and even emotes.... from other players

Should have made a simple setting like this

Other PCs bard performance .... check on or off

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Yeah, but thats your solution for now. Have the emoting people join your party so you can hear them for...w/e reason.

They won't remove it. Other MMOs have this and had no copyright issues. Hell they don't even bother to action people who do use 3rd party songs, despite disclaimers saying they would. I doubt SE would either. It would take effort away from protecting people from parses.

Curious about the wording of record and share songs, does that mean they dont care what you play so long as you dont record it?

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Originally Posted by Raikki

System Configuration > Sound Settings > Player Effects Volume

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It Atac....It Pwns...but it just Wins.

^_^

I haven't been in world yet to hear any of it, but I'm excited to. I actually just started leveling up Archer last week to try out Bard, not really realizing this sort of upgrade was coming to the class.

It's something new and shiny for people to play with; give it time and it'll slowly wane and dissipate. Let people enjoy themselves and if it bothers you that much, then turn off other sounds or blacklist them until such time that it fades away.

I do agree that we should have the option of turning it off ourselves because even if it tones down, there's still always going to be some people that just spam it when they have nothing better to do and I don't think having to turn off all sounds for other pcs should be the permanent solution to it. I agree it's a temporary one and that it should be used for now, but I do think the option in the future would be nice and IF it's easy enough to implement, then there is no reason why they shouldn't just give people the option. They've done it with other things, no reason not to here. It's not like it's turning it off for everyone. With that being said if for any reason it's actually not a simple way to do it then yeah, it's not that big of a deal to put too much time into but if it's easy enough, no reason not to.

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Originally Posted by Raikki

You can utilize the hotbar storage of unused classes (for example Archer) and use a macro to swap between them. For example, the following macro swaps hotbars 1-3 between Archer and Bard (using Lancer's hotbar #1 as a buffer):

/hotbar copy brd 1 lnc 1
/hotbar copy arc 1 brd 1
/hotbar copy lnc 1 arc 1
/hotbar copy brd 2 lnc 1
/hotbar copy arc 2 brd 2
/hotbar copy lnc 1 arc 2
/hotbar copy brd 3 lnc 1
/hotbar copy arc 3 brd 3
/hotbar copy lnc 1 arc 3

Executing it once will swap out your BRD 1-3 bars for your ARC 1-3 bars. Then you can set up your performance actions on them. Executing once more will swap back, storing your performance actions on ARC and bringing back your BRD combat actions. Obviously you can modify the macro for whatever bars you want to use.

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This is kool thank you. I tried it and it works wonderfully

Maybe someone with knowhow knows...

Could it work to connect an USB-Piano-Keyboard with the PC and use these additional keys to bind them with the right notes? Has anybody tried that out yet? I have nothing like that and never used an piano-keyboard so sorry if this question seems stupid. I'm just curious.

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Originally Posted by Veemi

Maybe someone with knowhow knows...

Could it work to connect an USB-Piano-Keyboard with the PC and use these additional keys to bind them with the right notes? Has anybody tried that out yet? I have nothing like that and never used an piano-keyboard so sorry if this question seems stupid. I'm just curious.

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Supposedly folks have been doing this, yes, though I haven't tried it myself.

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Originally Posted by ElazulHP

I wonder if its going to get removed eventually. I'm going to bet its only a matter of time until SE gets sued by Metallica or some other over zealous "defender" of music rights as well.

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........who?

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Originally Posted by Yhisa

Sigh..... bard performance is cool and all but there is one fatal flaw that was forgotten in the patch and this one

An OPTION in settings to turn off performances from other players

Its annoying to be going to lominsa and got several bard plucking at there harps

So please SE make optional setting for other players who do not want to listen to bards performance

Thanks in advance

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yes.. YES YES YES YES... oh god. Starting cities right now: ..

"plonk... plonk plonk.. pling... pling plonk pling PLONKITTYPLINGBLOOOP!" X 10

I get I can turn off EVERYTHING but I don't wanna hear NOTHING.. just no more people facerolling musical notes.

PLONK PLONK PLONK PLONK PLONK..PLING PLING PLING PLING PLING PLING PLING...Master of puppets I’m pulling your strings
Twisting your mind and smashing your dreams!! Blinded by me, you can’t see a thing! MASTER...MASTER...*runs away* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnKhsTXoKCI

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Originally Posted by Kaethra

They won't remove it. Other MMOs have this and had no copyright issues. Hell they don't even bother to action people who do use 3rd party songs, despite disclaimers saying they would. I doubt SE would either. It would take effort away from protecting people from parses.

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SE is a Japanese company and they don't really have fair use over there.

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Originally Posted by TheLittlestLala

SE is a Japanese company and they don't really have fair use over there.

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That's irrelevant. They don't have the resources nor the manpower to police this. The statement is a 'Cover our Rear' measure at best.

Could you imagine that? A GM having to listen to everyone playing around and try to recognize a 3rd party song? Not gonna happen. And if the GM's are Japanese themselves.. well.. their ability to recognize western songs is going to be limited.

I find you don't really hear people playing their harps if the camera is far away enough from them. Also BGM does a pretty good job of drowning it out at least somewhat.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

Square's apprently scared of it since they stated they can cut you from FFXIV over it.

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People are making a waaay bigger deal about the copyright stuff than is warranted. It's bordering on hysterical. SE has to cover themselves from any potential litigation. The only conceivable way anyone will face punishment for this is if they're really blatant about it and whoever owns the rights to the music makes a formal legal complaint. This way, SE can punish the player and absolve themselves of responsibility.

People are acting like Yoshi's going to be sitting in Limsa all day handing out 30 day bans for anyone who tries a poor rendition of Dragonsong.

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Originally Posted by Kohdo

People are making a waaay bigger deal about the copyright stuff than is warranted. It's bordering on hysterical. SE has to cover themselves from any potential litigation. The only conceivable way anyone will face punishment for this is if they're really blatant about it and whoever owns the rights to the music makes a formal legal complaint. This way, SE can punish the player and absolve themselves of responsibility.

People are acting like Yoshi's going to be sitting in Limsa all day handing out 30 day bans for anyone who tries a poor rendition of Dragonsong.

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I don't know man.

GM's get pretty cranky if you /grovel too many times. That doesn't even make noise. I wouldn't be surprised if people tried throwing reports over people just toying with the keys because of it being a new feature.

(Also, I know it's just to avoid copyright, but their wording makes it sound like you aren't allowed to play SE stuff unless it's FFXIV)

I feel people must be bored and decided to create problems that don't even exist.

What a pointless request.

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Originally Posted by Mature

I feel people must be bored and decided to create problems that don't even exist.

What a pointless request.

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Just because it's pointless to you doesn't make it pointless to others and that's a pretty selfish way of thinking. If there's a simple way to make a toggle to turn on or off perform then they should add it in. We shouldn't have to turn off other pc sounds just so we don't want to hear people spamming performs or listening to them play it everywhere. Some people are bothered by the sounds and having a way to turn that feature off that wouldn't involve a lot of work should be an option for people.

If it's a lot of work or involves too much then sure, not a big deal but if it's simple enough to do then there's no reason not to. I mean they did it with gauss barrel for the people that thought it looked ugly and I would imagine that's a lot more pointless to most people.

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Originally Posted by ElasmoFan

JWe shouldn't have to turn off other pc sounds just so we don't want to hear people spamming performs or listening to them play it everywhere.

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>report for harassment
>get GM to reply
>make front page with GM quote saying to turn down player noises
>wait 3 patches for your request to be implemented
>???
>profit

I would like to be able to play while sitting down.
The harp isn't that lagre and I'd love to play while sitting at the campfire.

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Originally Posted by ElasmoFan

Just because it's pointless to you doesn't make it pointless to others and that's a pretty selfish way of thinking. If there's a simple way to make a toggle to turn on or off perform then they should add it in. We shouldn't have to turn off other pc sounds just so we don't want to hear people spamming performs or listening to them play it everywhere. Some people are bothered by the sounds and having a way to turn that feature off that wouldn't involve a lot of work should be an option for people

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Couldn't care less if it is selfish to you but I will say it as it is. You won't get "sugar coated" statements from me.

It's like me saying: this shop sells things too expensive then the one next door. Just because it's more doesn't mean I'm gonna complaint about it , I just go to the other one.

STOP creating problems that don't exist. It's childish and pathetic.