Something should be done about the mob placement in future expansions.

I have been wandering Yanxia, loving the music. But then I while trying to listen to it I aggro a mob, then try to run from it to just aggro another and another. This was the case on Heavensward's maps as well. I feel like when trying to achieve a more dangerous map, by spreading the mobs out to nearly every inch of it made it more of annoyance than a feeling of danger. Even as we begin to outlevel the mobs in the expansion, they will still aggro. I'm kind of tired of hearing the same combat music across every map and resorting to flying everywhere I go instead of getting to enjoy the wonderfully crafted maps. Certainly there is some way to achieve a real sense of danger on the maps and not a spread the mobs out so wide that you run into one while trying to do practically ANYTHING?

Why can't we have something like the Tonberry in Wanderer's Palace roaming the map? Some incredibly deadly creature or NPC that we can't kill, or target, just like that Tonberry. I find that far more threatening and dangerous if I have to watch my surroundings for something like that than keep bumping into some enemy that poses no REAL threat to me except for to ruin my sense of peace and exploration.

I can't say I've ever really run into this to the point where it would be annoying. Mobs aren't that closely spaced in the wider open areas.

You could always fly while listening to the music (or get the Orchestrion roll, A Father's Pride). :B

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

You could always fly while listening to the music (or get the Orchestrion roll, A Father's Pride). :B

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Part of the problem I had was HAVING to fly to avoid it. There are some really nice locations in this game and its a shame to fly over most of it. There are places that some of my friends were never even aware existed in Heavensward and some even in Stormblood since a few places either aren't used (to my knowledge) or used specifically for a job quest.

I'd prefer they just let us turn off combat music.

There are always spots where there are no monsters in all areas, just find them and land there to listen.

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Originally Posted by Saziel

I'd prefer they just let us turn off combat music.

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Yes. This would be nice too. I've already turned off the mount music. Some of it is good, I mean, I like a lot of the music in the game if not all of it, but I can only listen to the same one for so long. I'm glad they've started designing more unique dungeon music. If they could have more combat music I'd appreciate it more....but the same song.....over and over. I can't do it.

The issue with danger is less the mob placement and rather just how easy the open world stuff is. I think the annoyance from aggro is a moot point with how easy it is to get away in the first place.

I think they have decreased the distance in which you could get agro from enemies in SB or sure as hell feels like it.
Like when someone sends you a tell and you think you are far enough away... nope apparently not, lol
Or even those Beast Tribe (or any quests really) were you must interact with something but stupid enemies happen to be there, or a fate pops up, etc...

Turning off mount music is the best option for this right now, though I feel you on wanting to explore the world. Kind of sad - I wish that once you reached whatever the current max level is, the mobs would stop coming after you even if they aren't 11 levels below you. But as it stands, I think that if you're level 70 then most mobs have a pretty generous range. You can get pretty close without them rushing to attack you.

Agreed to let us turn off aggro music, but more importantly turn off Fate music, the radius of those is really big. Pretty sure suggested it years ago.

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

Agreed to let us turn off aggro music, but more importantly turn off Fate music, the radius of those is really big. Pretty sure suggested it years ago.

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100% agree! I really haaaate the fate music. ESPECIALLY when gathering a lot of one item and you're constantly running in and out of the fate radius and the music keeps triggering on and off. UGH. Would be nice to also turn off combat music.

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

Agreed to let us turn off aggro music, but more importantly turn off Fate music, the radius of those is really big. Pretty sure suggested it years ago.

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Agreed. FATE music is not very enjoyable, in my opinion.

ARR had far more dense mob placements, actually.

But yeah, they should just let us turn off combat music while in the open world areas.

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Originally Posted by SaitoHikari

ARR had far more dense mob placements, actually.

But yeah, they should just let us turn off combat music while in the open world areas.

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The problem isn't the dense packed in mobs. ARR was fine because the mobs were off in their own little areas for the most part. Heavensward and Stormblood spread them out wider so that they cover more ground. If they were more condensed it would be better. I just hate that the exploration part of the maps had to suffer for a fake sense of danger that never actually was accomplished by spreading them out.

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Originally Posted by Saziel

I'd prefer they just let us turn off combat music.

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We can turn off mount music and I don’t understand why we don’t have an option to turn off battle music. I never wanted the battle music off as much as I have in stormblood

No way, the overworld is already too safe as it is.

The mobs are contained and their agro range is absurdly small. Not to mention you can take 2 steps to the right and deaggro them. There are plenty of places to stand in any zone that are safe. I have gone afk for hours standing in the middle of a field in HW and SB with no worries. Something you could never do in other games since mobs have a tendency to wander much farther and are more wide spread.

We do not need more safety, we need the thrill of more danger.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

No way, the overworld is already too safe as it is.

The mobs are contained and their agro range is absurdly small. Not to mention you can take 2 steps to the right and deaggro them. There are plenty of places to stand in any zone that are safe. I have gone afk for hours standing in the middle of a field in HW and SB with no worries. Something you could never do in other games since mobs have a tendency to wander much farther and are more wide spread.

We do not need more safety, we need the thrill of more danger.

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I'm not sure that you're understanding what I said.

1.) I'm not calling for safer zones. I'm asking that the mobs not be spread out so far that you encounter them on nearly every inch of the map. The wider spacing does not achieve danger, nor will condensing them like they were in ARR make it any safer either. It just would serve as less of an annoyance when the random mob just comes after you for no reason other than you're nearby.

2.) You are grossly exaggerating the leash the mobs are on. The way they are placed in most areas, they are placed directly on top of quest objectives, like almost absolutely all the quest objectives I've encountered, randomly interrupting NPC dialogue so you have to back out to kill the annoying thing and resume the conversation.

3.) I have offered at least one solution to making a more dangerous zone. I agree that the maps are too safe but I do not feel like adjusting the placement makes it safer, it makes it as I said, less annoying since the mobs at no point offer any true threat. Non-targetable, and highly deadly creatures would be a better solution. The sharks in the water don't attack us. But could you imagine if they did? You'd be exercising far more caution. You wouldn't be able to kill them making them truly threatening. Some monster hiding out in a cavern that would attempt to chase you out of its maze of tunnels? That would be fun and dangerous too. But as of right now, all they did was spread the mobs out to increase their encounters. They don't do any damage that can't be easily dealt with, and can be killed by any job, some more easier than others. They are an annoyance more than a threat, and just cause the sense of exploration to shatter when you have the same repetitive battle music come on everywhere you go because some mob happened to see you. Especially as you're casually crossing through the area to the next quest point not even stopping to fight anything. The music drags on for a short while after the mob has reset.

An option to finally turn off battle and fate music is a step in a good direction, but I'd really like the mobs that are more of a waste of time to deal with to stop being such a common annoyance. I'm levels ahead of them, bored of fighting them, they offer no threat, no reward, and at that point matter only to those who would farm their skins for craft mats. For them to still be chasing after me at this point is just irritating.

I understand what you are saying, I just don't believe the zones are as dangerous as you think they are when it comes to mob placement. I think you have grossly exaggerated the extent in which the mobs are spread out.

Like I said I have gone afk in every HW and SB zone at one point or another and never had an agro problem. I simply looked where things were and stood 6 ft to the left and was safe for hours. If you leave gaps in mob placement then you can weave your way through those gaps to avoid all danger making zones even less safe. I have never had mobs interrupt npc dialog or speech, sometimes when you have those long times to pick something up but the times you get agro there are generally few and far between since unless the mob is staring directly at you, its not likely you will get agro. And if you do, step to the right and loose that agro and finish up while they reset. I have had more issues with other players dragging mobs over to me so I get hit by their aoe and interrupt a cs than with random agro.

The point I was making is the mobs do not wander far, they stay in their own little space and their agro range is incredibly small. If you pay even minimal attention at all you can find a safe spot to stand. I think they should keep them spread and give them more range to wander as well as increase their overall power do more them more than just flies to swat away.

Sure there should be safe places but as it stands right now that is a majority of the map.

I am not saying you are wrong, well not entirely, but even the SB zones are ridiculously safe to just stand around in.

Global World population of enemies will never be incredibly challenging or dangerous because the game is not designed that way and enemies de-aggro too fast.

So if the major existence of the open world is quest and fates, then the danger should be lessened more since nothing follows you more than 10 feet anyways.

1. Unlimited sprint on foot(Unless in battle)
2. Removal of Heavy status effect cast by normal enemies
3. Only Notorious Monsters still cast Heavy
4. Now when aggro sprint gets locked out and you move at jogging speed until you lose aggro.
5. Now when aggro on mount your speed gets kicked down to same speed as normal foot sprint.

Have an option for fate UI:

• Autosync On or Off
• Ignore Fates On or Off, no pop up UI or music(unless higher level than you)

Now if they want to make a new unique zone more similar to it's older sister, then bring it.

I think addressing the inability to turn off the music for fates and battle is much better than trying to space out mob placement.