I'm curious if there were any particular stats you should be focusing on whilst melding materia into your equipment. I've heard a lot about how much Direct Hit is good for overall damage, but what about Tenacity/Determination? I want to hear your thoughts on what stats are best for tanking.
Stat priorities for tanking
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10-29-2017, 08:17 PMXero1200Stat priorities for tanking
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10-29-2017, 09:09 PMAzerhan
DH is the best for dps, Tenacity for progression, and Det is when you can't put Ten in a stuff.
Most of the raiders said that a built with Ten/ Det is better for prog, and DH when you know the fight very well/ if you're overstuffed.
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10-30-2017, 02:44 PMSarcatica
No one is even going tenacity for Ultimate. Don't bother with it and just go full DH. Tenacity remains to be seen as useful for now, Crit and Det are your next after DH.
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11-02-2017, 01:18 PMZierk
The reason for DH is tanks do not get any on their gear naturally, we got tenacity instead. Because of how well DH scales, and the fact that our gear already comes with favorable secondaries, (crit/det) DH is the better meld choice than the other secondary stats. You can't meld enough tenacity with the current stat caps on gear to justify its worth over the raw DPS increase from melding DH.
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11-02-2017, 07:11 PMKhalithar
+1 to melding DH on your left side pieces. It’s too good of a stat right now.
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11-02-2017, 10:52 PMAzerhanYeah, it's exactly that. If we can try a 2500 + Tenacity, then it should be interresting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zierk
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11-03-2017, 05:59 AMDeathgiverhttps://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...acter/5237599/Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarcatica
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...acter/8650727/
Delete Mnk's tanks doing wf progression, just saying -
11-03-2017, 07:28 AMwhiskeybravoI see this being thrown around a lot, but doesn't pass the smell test to me. The highest logs right now have insane crit/direct-hit crit rates, it makes a huge difference on "lucky" runs. How are you ever going to have enough crit or dh if you dump 2500+ points into tenacity? I can't prove or disprove one way or the other, but logically I don't see how it works. As it stands you have to get lucky with crit rate if you want a top log, and gearing for tenacity isn't going to do squat for your crit/dh rate. The damage reduction is not needed in current content, and it would be silly of SE to design the next encounters in such a way that would mandate tanks gear for tenacity for the damage reduction. I don't know. Just my thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azerhan
Still, most of the melds are DH, only a few tenacity materia. Tenacity on gear, DH for melds has been the conservative suggestion since SB launch anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathgiver
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11-03-2017, 08:31 AMDeathgiverWas specifically replying to the "no one" comment, though if you look at their gear sets they went max tenacity option in every slot that had the option on 340 gear. The War uses 1 dh where they could've melded tenacity, other than that every piece is capped on both tanks on the left side.Quote:
Originally Posted by whiskeybravo
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11-04-2017, 03:12 AMSarcaticaWell for 1 thing, I meld 0 tenacity and i haven't been 1shot by any Twint or Nael with CDs. The last Bahamut fight has yet to be seen on streams, if any imho, they just chose to do Tenacity build just in case. Most of the time that tanks get to live longer to see the next mechanics after all, they have their reasons and we don't know why for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathgiver
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11-04-2017, 05:23 AMBluexBird
You can meld Direct Hit into everything that isn't an accessory. So there is no reason to ever bother with Determination, Tenacity, Critical Hit or Attack Speed melds because Direct Hit is so much better than all of them.
For your accessories, you go with Strength since it's a bigger damage boost. If you have the crafted ones, then put 1 Strength one and squeeze in extra Direct Hit.
The only real thing you should even bother debating about is which ilvl 340 pieces are better. For example, some people might look at the tank pants and wonder if the huge amount of Critical Hit is worth picking up despite the high skill speed, over the Determination/Tenacity counterpart.
Also, Tenacity currently doesn't contribute a significant amount to act as a form of mitigation. Meaning if you ended up dying to something without any extra Tenacity, you would have still also died WITH the extra Tenacity. Like maybe you'll survive an extra auto attack but that's it. lol -
11-05-2017, 04:42 AMInuk9Yeah, and you still haven't cleared it yet, come back with your "no one" commentary when you actually get a clear. Twintania autos in a tank with DH build hits for 15k (around 13k with cooldown) and hits 13,5~14k with a Tenacity build (11k with cooldowns). Look how much stress you are taking off from your healers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarcatica
If you get to Nael the difference gets even bigger.