Where's the bait?

I was expecting patch 1.21 on Jan 6th to lure me in and pay for a sub. I've already been playing patch 1.2 for like three weeks now for free.

really?

really?

*face palm*

Oh come on guys it wouldn't be General Discussion without your daily dose of self entitled "I quit" threads and all that nonsense :D

Someone cant read roadmaps it looks like 1.21 is set for end of Jan/beginning of Feb, also lets not forget 1.20 was delayed so that will probably affect it a little bit.

Your lure was 1.20 which you cant do yet. lol

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Originally Posted by Colino

Oh come on guys it wouldn't be General Discussion without your daily dose of self entitled "I quit" threads and all that nonsense :D

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I'm not sure where I wrote that I was quitting. I just started playing three weeks ago, everything is still new and exciting to me.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

Someone cant read roadmaps it looks like 1.21 is set for end of Jan/beginning of Feb, also lets not forget 1.20 was delayed so that will probably affect it a little bit.

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I assure you, I can read just fine. I'm just highlighting what seems to me was a poor business decision.

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Originally Posted by Vuen

I assure you, I can read just fine. I'm just highlighting what seems to me was a poor business decision.

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...oh well?
Really, there's not much that can be done about it at this point. They had to start charging eventually, may as well give people a feww free weeks of 1.20 before they start.

You know, let them experience 2 final seasonal events.

I hope they release 1.21 a few days before renew, that would be bait

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Originally Posted by Gramul

...oh well?
Really, there's not much that can be done about it at this point. They had to start charging eventually, may as well give people a feww free weeks of 1.20 before they start.

You know, let them experience 2 final seasonal events.

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While I'm sure that technically the two seasonal events were part of 1.20, that's not what I was referring to. I agree that the seasonal events should have gone on as planned.

I meant content more along the lines of the Achievement system, Auction house, Moogle BCNM, should have been withheld until Jan 6th. If they were not planning a new content patch to launch with their subscription system.

The bait is to hope this game turns into a great MMO at the end of this year. Oh yeah and those mounts.

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Originally Posted by Vuen

While I'm sure that technically the two seasonal events were part of 1.20, that's not what I was referring to. I agree that the seasonal events should have gone on as planned.

I meant content more along the lines of the Achievement system, Auction house, Moogle BCNM, should have been withheld until Jan 6th. If they were not planning a new content patch to launch with their subscription system.

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1. That content was the bait
2. That would of pissed of sooooooooooooooooooooo many people

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Originally Posted by viion

1. That content was the bait
2. That would of pissed of sooooooooooooooooooooo many people

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@1, it was released almost a month ago, by extension players got to experience that content for almost a month, it's not bait if we already have it.

@2, I doubt it, they could have just said the patch wasn't yet ready for release.

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Originally Posted by Vuen

@1, it was released almost a month ago, by extension players got to experience that content for almost a month, it's not bait if we already have it.

@2, I doubt it, they could have just said the patch wasn't yet ready for release.

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lol, yeah, people wouldnt have been pissed off, sure

thats why they were already raging over a 1 week delay


come on now, this is just rediculous


they announced how it would be done way ahead of time, they said 1.20 would come out, be out for a bit, then wed get billed, then 1.21 wouild come out shortly after

so they are doing exactly what they said they would do, and anyone who is suprirsed at this point in the game is extremely slow

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Originally Posted by Vuen

@1, it was released almost a month ago, by extension players got to experience that content for almost a month, it's not bait if we already have it.

@2, I doubt it, they could have just said the patch wasn't yet ready for release.

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People get angry and mad when the game is down because of natural diasters, you think they wont be angry over a 4 week extended delay? lmao, you really need to understand the XIV community is fragile and aggressive, when the servers were down for an hour longer maintenance that we was informed of than the usual 3hour, people raged, when the patch got delayed 1 and half days due to market ward issue, people raged.Get used to it tho lol

Also 1.20 was bait, Yoshi said it himself, he said "go play 1.20 and decide if its worth paying for or not", it was the bait, it doesnt matter if it was released or not. Do you stand by the river with maggots and say to the fish "these will be yours soon, so soon! look at tasty they look, could be yours!", no you dunk the maggots in and give them to the fish, then hook them in when they like what they see and go for it.

1.21 it's still planned for mid jenuary- beginning february. More probably the second part of the phrase, so it's better not expect a bait soon

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Originally Posted by viion

Also 1.20 was bait, Yoshi said it himself, he said "go play 1.20 and decide if its worth paying for or not", it was the bait, it doesnt matter if it was released or not. Do you stand by the river with maggots and say to the fish "these will be yours soon, so soon! look at tasty they look, could be yours!", no you dunk the maggots in and give them to the fish, then hook them in when they like what they see and go for it.

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Hm... This is possibly one of the strangest analogies I've ever seen...

I had thought they were suppose to start charging in late November/early December. Pretty much when the patch came out. 1.20 that is, but they moved it to the sixth. This was also well said with plenty of time in advance. I think they made the right decision myself. Let people get a taste of the patch and decide from there. I do think though if they wanted more people to stay 1.21 would have been good bait, but at the same time that is one month extra people are not paying for. So from a business point of view... I'm not sure which would have been the better choice.

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Originally Posted by Mushy

I hope they release 1.21 a few days before renew, that would be bait

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What renew? V2.0? There is still 1.22 and 1.23 on the way

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Originally Posted by Felis

What renew? V2.0? There is still 1.22 and 1.23 on the way

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renew payment. (i hope they release 1.21 before the next charge)

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Originally Posted by Vuen

I'm not sure where I wrote that I was quitting. I just started playing three weeks ago, everything is still new and exciting to me.

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That's not what I meant. I was simply implying your thread is on par with (in quality) with all the QUIT threads and all that jazz.

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Originally Posted by Mushy

renew payment. (i hope they release 1.21 before the next charge)

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According to the operational roadmap, 1.21 was tentatively slated to be released in early February. So that might not be too far off the mark. I'd say mid to late February would probably be more realistic but I guess we'll hear more about that towards the end of this month.

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Originally Posted by normalforce

According to the operational roadmap, 1.21 was tentatively slated to be released in early February. So that might not be too far off the mark. I'd say mid to late February would probably be more realistic but I guess we'll hear more about that towards the end of this month.

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Valentine's Day Event items are already in the dats, I'm assuming it's going to be bumped to march considering the 10 or so day delay almost every patch gets.

I'd love to be wrong of course.

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Originally Posted by Nullie

I had thought they were suppose to start charging in late November/early December. Pretty much when the patch came out. 1.20 that is, but they moved it to the sixth. This was also well said with plenty of time in advance. I think they made the right decision myself. Let people get a taste of the patch and decide from there. I do think though if they wanted more people to stay 1.21 would have been good bait, but at the same time that is one month extra people are not paying for. So from a business point of view... I'm not sure which would have been the better choice.

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Yes, I would, that is the whole point of bait!

In reality the analogy of what Yoshi P is doing is more like this though. Pored his bucket of bait in the water, the fish ate everything and got their fill. Then he comes back with more bait, after the fish are stuffed with food, and tries to sell it to them.

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Originally Posted by Vuen

Yes, I would, that is the whole point of bait!

In reality the analogy of what Yoshi P is doing is more like this though. Pored his bucket of bait in the water, the fish ate everything and got their fill. Then he comes back with more bait, after the fish are stuffed with food, and tries to sell it to them.

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I prefer to think of it in terms of you don't buy a car before test driving it first. 1.20 was our test drive, you try it out first to see if you'll like it.

But it's exactly like how some other MMO's offer a few weeks of free play initially. Try it out, see if you like it and if you do, continue on with your subscription.

I honestly don't see the problem here.

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Originally Posted by Vuen

I was expecting patch 1.21 on Jan 6th to lure me in and pay for a sub. I've already been playing patch 1.2 for like three weeks now for free.

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1.20 is the bait. Not being douchebags, SE let you sample it so you could see if you liked it before asking you to pay for it.

Oh my god people. READ. READ. READ. READ.

If you cared about this game at all you would have looked at the road map for 2.0 and seen that 1.21 isn't coming out until at least early Feb.

And here I thought this was a thread about fishing... T^T

Seriously though, I'm glad patch 1.20 came out before billing started, because I was really put off with the idea that they changed all of the abilities and such... but playing for that short amount of time solidified my desire to keep playing, as I actually find the new combat with the personal combo system a lot of fun!
So, yeah. I think 1.20 was the bait.

(Now if they can do something to make crafting more fun, I'll be all set!)